Comments on: Let’s make a deal: taxes and unemployment insurance https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/ A blog about political change, among other things Tue, 07 Dec 2010 12:30:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.1 By: Mr. Frank https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206347 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 12:30:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206347 It appears that Obama has become a supply side guy to save his presidency. The payroll tax cut, 100% business expensing, extension of capital gains and dividend income treatment, and extension of the tax cuts for the wealthy might just boost the economy for the 2012 election. Obama has taken his moves from the Republican playbook. That’s why his base is so pissed.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206296 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 05:11:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206296 mksmash: I’ve had similar thoughts. Wrote about it here.

]]> By: texexec https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206286 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:41:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206286 Inheritance taxes hurt family farmers too.

]]> By: mksmash https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206271 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 03:02:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206271 Do not underestimate Obama or the hard left agenda. 2010 was not a war, just one battle in the war.

This president has apparently made a decision.

For a while it looked like he was going to go down as the perennial activist and damn the consequences. With this announcement it looks like the decision is to instead, go for the win in 2012.

Start watching for signs that Hillary (or Dean or anyone else) will no longer hold out the option of putting up a challenge.

And now it becomes even more critical that the Republicans find a real candidate. The plot thickens.

]]> By: Mr. Frank https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206266 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 02:30:11 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206266 Mark,

Care to rethink your position in light of today’s news?

]]> By: Name: Mark https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206255 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 01:40:52 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206255 Like we didn’t see this coming? And I am sure that none of us will be surprised when all Bush era tax cuts are extended for years and jobless benefits are not extended. Obama is a fucking Republican and the biggest fucking idiot in the world.

]]> By: Tom https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206246 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 01:21:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206246 Taxes should not be designed for social engineering. But they are, and most of us simply have gotten used to it. It is part of the passivity forced on us by the Ruling Class.
Taxes should pay for (essential) government services, pure and simple. Let the social engineers and class warmongers use different devices.

]]> By: JuliB https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206239 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 00:25:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206239 Wealth is property, and as such should be passed on to one’s heirs. I say this coming from a lower middle class family/background -maybe- and having NO expectations of any inheritance except of the feline and canine variety.

Property rights are key to our society.

]]> By: rickl https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206237 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 00:23:26 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206237 East Bay Jay:
The thing about inheritance taxes is that they seem to disproportionately hit small businesses. Often the heirs are forced to sell the business in order to pay the taxes.

The super-rich are able to get around most inheritance taxes by setting up foundations and trusts. Maybe there could be some kind of reform in those areas, but I’m not a lawyer or accountant, so I don’t know.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206236 Tue, 07 Dec 2010 00:20:13 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/12/06/lets-make-a-deal-taxes-and-unemployment-insurance/#comment-206236 East Bay Jay: I don’t think estate taxes are as popular as you seem to think. In a quick look, I couldn’t find any recent polls on the question, so it’s hard to be sure. But although some people believe that when a person dies that’s a great time to take away the fruits of their life’s work, others beg to differ. One of the biggest arguments against it is that it’s a double tax, because all of this income was already subject to a tax during the person’s lifetime. Although you may see the estate tax as feeding on popular animosity against trust fund babies, other people see the estate tax as an unfair double taxation as well as a disincentive to earn money, and a restriction on the freedom to do with one’s money as one wishes.

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