As for Madonna, while not a fan, it’s hard to argue her impact on pop culture. She, with only the most mediocre musical talent, perfected the image reinvention/provoke outrage to get publicity shtick that is so common today. Every young tart singer today is sure to mention how much they loved and admired Madonna while growing up – either before or after their “controversial” girl on girl kiss, bondage-themed video, etc. Ugh!

I have no idea how many of her grandchildren and great grandchildren are now or have previously been members of Congress.

I don’t know what Rose’s accomplishments were, but she had a pretty powerful womb.

Damn. I’ve been saving an insult for the right occasion, and almost let it fly recently.

“Good luck with your cognitive challenges.”

Scooped!

Pity. Time is TV Guide for the cognitively challenged.

If the heroes ideas that are negative you don’t like, and doesn’t match your idea whats right, then you have been supporting something completely different than what you thought it was… because to them, these people are heroes for that nasty stuff that they hide from you!!! (that is the real them)

see the Sanger video, and understand that she is not celebrated for what they say they are providing, but for what she created and are happy that they have been able to keep it going and dupe so many into defending it with rhetoric, as it still serves the purpose… for decades women have supported a movement whose major icons thought Ernst Rudin was a man with good ideas… (heck, they still love Heidegger)

by the way… Harmans newsletter Lucifer the Lightbearer was

“Originally produced by a local branch of the National Liberal League as the Valley Falls Liberal (1880-1883), Harman changed the title after he assumed sole editorship in 1883.”

Later… “After 24 years in production, Lucifer ceased publication in 1907 and become the more scholarly American Journal of Eugenics.”

which was hip to the Sanger’s Birth Control Review, which eugenics, scientific socialism, and euthanasia, was all the anarchists big thing…

as time passes and people look they will keep bumping into the same names over and over..

Modernism and Eugenics: Woolf, Eliot, Yeats, and the Culture of Degeneration
http://www.amazon.com/Modernism-Eugenics-Woolf-Culture-Degeneration/dp/0521806011
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Articles on individual modernist writers outline connections between their works and eugenical thought, but Childs’ study is the first full-length treatment of this issue in relation to literary modernism, and as such is a valuable contribution to the field…. a very worthwhile contribution to modernist study.” Woolf Studies Annual
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In Modernism and Eugenics, Donald Childs reveals how Virginia Woolf, T.S. Eliot, and W.B. Yeats believed in eugenics, the science of racial improvement, and adapted this scientific discourse to the language and purposes of the modern imagination. He traces the impact of the eugenics movement on such modernist works as Mrs. Dalloway, The Waste Land, and Yeats’s late poetry and early plays. This is an original study of a controversial theme which reveals the centrality of eugenics in the life and work of several major modernist writers.

(now you know why woolf AND sanger are on the same list..

here is Cambridge discussing their like of eugenics
assets.cambridge.org/97805218/06015/frontmatter/9780521806015_frontmatter.pdf

as i said.. the leaders have commonality that the public doesn’t really know. if it wasn’t for the internet. sangers history would be scrubbed and anyone like me who read her autobiography would be called a conspiracy theorist, hater of women, didnt get laid enough, etc..

you should see people contort to try to save her rep, explain away her real history, writings, publications, biography, goals, and even others who wrote for her “birth control review”. like ernst rudin.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%BCdin

Recognized as one of the fathers compare German Wiki of National Socialist ideology, his work was endorsed officially by the Nazi Party. He wrote the official commentary for the racial policy of Nazi Germany: “Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring”; and was awarded medals from the Nazis and Adolf Hitler personally.

In 1933, Ernst Ré¼din, Alfred Ploetz, and several other experts on racial hygiene were brought together to form the Expert Committee on Questions of Population and Racial Policy under Reich Interior Minister Wilhelm Frick. The committee’s ideas were used as a scientific basis to justify the racial policy of Nazi Germany. The “Law for the Prevention of Genetically Diseased Offspring” was passed by the German government on January 1, 1934. Ré¼din was interned in US 1945, but already released 1946, after Max Planck had used itself for him.

could make one think if one were disposed to.
kind of like the red pill blue pill question.
Trusted things were and are not trusted things

Sanger is an old example of what is now a refined process. that if they keep hammering the big lie, and others dont constantly refute it or are cut from doing so, then over time, the big lie wins and they have remolded history…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEja-1emRic

its one reason that so many of them dont care as to how or what they do, as thats only for now, but the washed history for being loyal, thats for many lifetimes and memories.

just as much of the history i bring out is missing… it will be gone if no one keeps repeating it, Zinn will become the ONLY view, gone will be Hayek, Mills, etc…

Just as Meade a crank is known well, and Emmy Noether a mathematician and a woman Einstein credited for laying groundwork for his theories, and was key to the development of super symmetry.

You might think that since they want to prove that women can be as good as men, that they might have brought out the female mathematician who helped create super symmetry.

ah but that’s what it means to be a FRONT… your image is what people believe, not whats behind it

I agree with Brad on Madonna, actually. It may be unfortunate, but pretty much all of pop culture has been molded in essential ways by her. That doesn’t mean I disagree with neo that Madonna is “just about the most asexual person alive.” Still, if you ever listen to the newer crops of musical or other women celebrities, the first “role model” they usually mention is Madonna.

My sarcastic comment on the list:

“Dude, no Elena Ceausescu? COME ON!”