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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/11/10/the-liberal-explanation-for-what-went-wrong-this-election/#comment-199402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and the point i forgot on the contrail issue was that in the earlier videos, the difference between a contrail and plume is EASY to see.  which in the farther away, and cut shots you cant see

and thats the simple fact that a contrail does NOT eminate directly from the engine... it has to cool and then condense, so contrails appear behind the engine, not emanating like a big cloud. 

if you saw the earlier footage before they cut it to the distance shots, a grainy DIGITAL closeup replacing the original camera lens close up, you would EASILY see billows of smoke leaving the back and coming from the engine directly, not behind the engine when the air stream cools. 

its tiny details like this that would explain why after literally millions of flights over decades, only THIS contrail is thought to be a missle. 

meanwhile, after obamas pleasure to meet a communist, he now has a wonderful unknown reason to give the farm away at G20.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the point i forgot on the contrail issue was that in the earlier videos, the difference between a contrail and plume is EASY to see.  which in the farther away, and cut shots you cant see</p>
<p>and thats the simple fact that a contrail does NOT eminate directly from the engine&#8230; it has to cool and then condense, so contrails appear behind the engine, not emanating like a big cloud. </p>
<p>if you saw the earlier footage before they cut it to the distance shots, a grainy DIGITAL closeup replacing the original camera lens close up, you would EASILY see billows of smoke leaving the back and coming from the engine directly, not behind the engine when the air stream cools. </p>
<p>its tiny details like this that would explain why after literally millions of flights over decades, only THIS contrail is thought to be a missle. </p>
<p>meanwhile, after obamas pleasure to meet a communist, he now has a wonderful unknown reason to give the farm away at G20.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GLAD TO MEET AN INDIAN COMMUNIST! 

That SOB. Hands folded in front like a good little I-can-be-whatever-you-need-me-to-be-only-worship-me SOB. 

In the midst of the war 
He offered us peace
He came like a lover 
From out of the East

With the face of an angel
and the heart of a beast
His intentions were six, sixty, six.

Lyrics to Six, Sixty, Six]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GLAD TO MEET AN INDIAN COMMUNIST! </p>
<p>That SOB. Hands folded in front like a good little I-can-be-whatever-you-need-me-to-be-only-worship-me SOB. </p>
<p>In the midst of the war<br />
He offered us peace<br />
He came like a lover<br />
From out of the East</p>
<p>With the face of an angel<br />
and the heart of a beast<br />
His intentions were six, sixty, six.</p>
<p>Lyrics to Six, Sixty, Six</p>
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		By: JKB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JKB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course, the Democrat failure was due to a failure to communicate.  If it wasn&#039;t the talking, what else they got to offer?  When all you have is a hammer, all the world looks like a nail.

As for not knowing that they&#039;d get voted out if they voted for the HCR, well, less talk and a whole lot more listening at the town halls would have nipped that in the bud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the Democrat failure was due to a failure to communicate.  If it wasn&#8217;t the talking, what else they got to offer?  When all you have is a hammer, all the world looks like a nail.</p>
<p>As for not knowing that they&#8217;d get voted out if they voted for the HCR, well, less talk and a whole lot more listening at the town halls would have nipped that in the bud.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it walks like a duck, craps like a duck, has wings and a bill like a duck, and feathers like a duck... 

at some point its going to quack...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it walks like a duck, craps like a duck, has wings and a bill like a duck, and feathers like a duck&#8230; </p>
<p>at some point its going to quack&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Mc.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@James

&lt;i&gt;Getting back to the original topic...&lt;/i&gt;

Thank you.

&lt;i&gt;Liberals believe that what they are doing may not be popular at the moment, but once it has been enacted and we notice its affects, then we will like it....

If society rejects their vision as society experiences its affects, liberals won’t know what to do. Having us like it eventually was always their plan.&lt;/i&gt;

You are being dangerously naive in my opinion. Liberals could care less what we like or want. Their aim is control, domination, power, conformity, permanency, etc., etc. 

Obamacare - as with everything they do - had zero to do with health care or us liking it or it even being good for us and for society. Zero.

It had everything to do with destroying your soul and the soul of America. If we do not destroy it, that is what it will do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James</p>
<p><i>Getting back to the original topic&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p><i>Liberals believe that what they are doing may not be popular at the moment, but once it has been enacted and we notice its affects, then we will like it&#8230;.</p>
<p>If society rejects their vision as society experiences its affects, liberals won’t know what to do. Having us like it eventually was always their plan.</i></p>
<p>You are being dangerously naive in my opinion. Liberals could care less what we like or want. Their aim is control, domination, power, conformity, permanency, etc., etc. </p>
<p>Obamacare &#8211; as with everything they do &#8211; had zero to do with health care or us liking it or it even being good for us and for society. Zero.</p>
<p>It had everything to do with destroying your soul and the soul of America. If we do not destroy it, that is what it will do.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 11:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think we can say liberals are grossly incompetent at mathematics. Or perhaps they simply reject the unforgiving harsh realities of it. Which lies at the core of why all their govt programs ultimately prove to be unsustainable boondoggles and ponzi schemes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can say liberals are grossly incompetent at mathematics. Or perhaps they simply reject the unforgiving harsh realities of it. Which lies at the core of why all their govt programs ultimately prove to be unsustainable boondoggles and ponzi schemes.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[James: no.  When Social Security and  Medicare were enacted they were &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; popular, and passed with wide support, much of which was bipartisan.

Granted, there were people who were against them.  And perhaps when they were first proposed they were less popular.  But by the time they were passed they were popular; they were &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; passed over the objections of the American people and by narrow margins, as was HCR.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James: no.  When Social Security and  Medicare were enacted they were <i>very</i> popular, and passed with wide support, much of which was bipartisan.</p>
<p>Granted, there were people who were against them.  And perhaps when they were first proposed they were less popular.  But by the time they were passed they were popular; they were <i>not</i> passed over the objections of the American people and by narrow margins, as was HCR.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The mask drops.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/glad-to-meet-an-indian-communist-said-obama-65314?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ndtv%2FLsgd+%28NDTV+News+-+India%29&#038;utm_content=Google+Reader&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Glad to meet an Indian Communist, said Obama&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; The Left may have staged protests during his visit but US President Barack Obama was &quot;glad&quot; to meet an Indian communist leader last evening.

&quot;I am glad to meet an Indian communist. I am told that communists have been part of the (Indian) political mainstream,&quot; Obama told CPM Politburo member Sitaram Yechury at the Rashtrapati Bhawan banquet as they were introduced and both shook hands.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mask drops.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/glad-to-meet-an-indian-communist-said-obama-65314?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ndtv%2FLsgd+%28NDTV+News+-+India%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader" rel="nofollow">Glad to meet an Indian Communist, said Obama</a></p>
<blockquote cite=""><p> The Left may have staged protests during his visit but US President Barack Obama was &#8220;glad&#8221; to meet an Indian communist leader last evening.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am glad to meet an Indian communist. I am told that communists have been part of the (Indian) political mainstream,&#8221; Obama told CPM Politburo member Sitaram Yechury at the Rashtrapati Bhawan banquet as they were introduced and both shook hands.</p></blockquote>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 05:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Getting back to the original topic, I think Neo is missing one little thing.

Liberals believe that what they are doing may not be popular at the moment, but once it has been enacted and we notice its affects, then we will like it.  

It makes sense that they believe this.  It was true for Social Security, Medicare and Universal public education.  Slowly, those things will fall away, as they have no permanent purpose, but they are popular, and democrats were/are rewarded for providing those things.

The health care law is a break for them, as it is the first law they passed which doesn&#039;t seem to be getting more popular as we get used to it.  Opinions are staying the same, or may even get worse.  Liberals have never faced this before.  They aren&#039;t sure how to analyze it.  If public opinion never swings behind the health care law even as its rolled out and understood better - or its hated even more, liberalism has no where to go.  This is their &quot;big deal&quot;, the transformation to society which makes their work complete.  

If society rejects their vision as society experiences its affects, liberals won&#039;t know what to do.  Having us like it eventually was always their plan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to the original topic, I think Neo is missing one little thing.</p>
<p>Liberals believe that what they are doing may not be popular at the moment, but once it has been enacted and we notice its affects, then we will like it.  </p>
<p>It makes sense that they believe this.  It was true for Social Security, Medicare and Universal public education.  Slowly, those things will fall away, as they have no permanent purpose, but they are popular, and democrats were/are rewarded for providing those things.</p>
<p>The health care law is a break for them, as it is the first law they passed which doesn&#8217;t seem to be getting more popular as we get used to it.  Opinions are staying the same, or may even get worse.  Liberals have never faced this before.  They aren&#8217;t sure how to analyze it.  If public opinion never swings behind the health care law even as its rolled out and understood better &#8211; or its hated even more, liberalism has no where to go.  This is their &#8220;big deal&#8221;, the transformation to society which makes their work complete.  </p>
<p>If society rejects their vision as society experiences its affects, liberals won&#8217;t know what to do.  Having us like it eventually was always their plan.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 04:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I posted in another thread on the contrail thing and there was 10 minutes of video from a helicopter... and no other planes in the same area at that time left contrails. 

and i think it was china... 
i posted a quote from wiki about Wiemar and hyperinflation where they printed a trillion note

and if you think about it, a huge round of hyper inflation would allow me to pay off the debt to china in a few bills. 

as i said, their writing in america completely ignores external other actors. for instance, cloward and piven dont mention how to keep other countries at bay while your country has economically collapsed. 

but its simpler than that. the Chinese have over 2 trillion of US debt. this round of QE with the gold run, has pretty much stolen away almost a quarter of what they would get back 

if obama and co, steal money from us by inflation and hyperinflation practices, they are also pissing on the Chinese as investors. 

such a firing would be a way of saying:
&quot;if you think you can hyperinflate and pay this back with script we are not going to take it&quot;

a practice that works when your finances are your own, is not something that works in the global arena where the backers of your debt are other countries and they want to be paid in value, not numbers. 

china made serious investments and took those bonds as payment it doesn&#039;t want dollars that are 1/5 what they were...  

unlike American people and their government, the force between to international entities is completely untempered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted in another thread on the contrail thing and there was 10 minutes of video from a helicopter&#8230; and no other planes in the same area at that time left contrails. </p>
<p>and i think it was china&#8230;<br />
i posted a quote from wiki about Wiemar and hyperinflation where they printed a trillion note</p>
<p>and if you think about it, a huge round of hyper inflation would allow me to pay off the debt to china in a few bills. </p>
<p>as i said, their writing in america completely ignores external other actors. for instance, cloward and piven dont mention how to keep other countries at bay while your country has economically collapsed. </p>
<p>but its simpler than that. the Chinese have over 2 trillion of US debt. this round of QE with the gold run, has pretty much stolen away almost a quarter of what they would get back </p>
<p>if obama and co, steal money from us by inflation and hyperinflation practices, they are also pissing on the Chinese as investors. </p>
<p>such a firing would be a way of saying:<br />
&#8220;if you think you can hyperinflate and pay this back with script we are not going to take it&#8221;</p>
<p>a practice that works when your finances are your own, is not something that works in the global arena where the backers of your debt are other countries and they want to be paid in value, not numbers. </p>
<p>china made serious investments and took those bonds as payment it doesn&#8217;t want dollars that are 1/5 what they were&#8230;  </p>
<p>unlike American people and their government, the force between to international entities is completely untempered.</p>
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