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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[At some point in the last few months I saw mention that some members of Congress were claiming  that--without their knowledge or consent--a staff member somehow inserted language, I believe it was an earmark, into legislation that was subsequently passed.   I guess this is riffing off the idea that they don&#039;t actually read the bills these days.

P.S.--From working on Capitol Hill for several decades, my sense is that very few members actually read the bills and, instead,  they often rely on staff to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point in the last few months I saw mention that some members of Congress were claiming  that&#8211;without their knowledge or consent&#8211;a staff member somehow inserted language, I believe it was an earmark, into legislation that was subsequently passed.   I guess this is riffing off the idea that they don&#8217;t actually read the bills these days.</p>
<p>P.S.&#8211;From working on Capitol Hill for several decades, my sense is that very few members actually read the bills and, instead,  they often rely on staff to do so.</p>
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		By: suek		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/11/10/post-election-its-not-all-sweetness-and-light-with-the-republicans/#comment-199693</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[suek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Found this: (relevant info starts about the 8th paragraph)

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/01/presidential_earmarks.html

And this site:

http://earmarks.omb.gov/earmarks-public/

No time to really explore the links, but the last line is interesting: &quot;earmarks with no sponsor include explanations&quot;  How can you have an earmark without a sponsor??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this: (relevant info starts about the 8th paragraph)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/01/presidential_earmarks.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2008/01/presidential_earmarks.html</a></p>
<p>And this site:</p>
<p><a href="http://earmarks.omb.gov/earmarks-public/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://earmarks.omb.gov/earmarks-public/</a></p>
<p>No time to really explore the links, but the last line is interesting: &#8220;earmarks with no sponsor include explanations&#8221;  How can you have an earmark without a sponsor??</p>
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		By: suek		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/11/10/post-election-its-not-all-sweetness-and-light-with-the-republicans/#comment-199675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[suek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently there are also presidential earmarks of some sort.  There was a discussion on the radio the other evening (probably on the Mike Gallagher show) about this, and his guest (sorry - no quote, no names, no nothing! of actual facts) stated that on a particular recent bill, there was something like 100+ billion dollars added, and none had been added by Congress - all were executive add-ons.  I don&#039;t understand how this works, but will try to learn more about it.  If this is true, then somehow it too must be addressed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently there are also presidential earmarks of some sort.  There was a discussion on the radio the other evening (probably on the Mike Gallagher show) about this, and his guest (sorry &#8211; no quote, no names, no nothing! of actual facts) stated that on a particular recent bill, there was something like 100+ billion dollars added, and none had been added by Congress &#8211; all were executive add-ons.  I don&#8217;t understand how this works, but will try to learn more about it.  If this is true, then somehow it too must be addressed.</p>
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		By: CBYoungblood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CBYoungblood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 00:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s very simple: don&#039;t appropriate as much money. The President can&#039;t spend money he doesn&#039;t have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very simple: don&#8217;t appropriate as much money. The President can&#8217;t spend money he doesn&#8217;t have.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 23:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My conclusion is that over 42,000 U.S. factories closing in just the space of 10 years is not a good thing.  As for how many manufacturing establishments there currently are and how to define the “manufacturing sector,” I invite you to try to find out by wading through–as I have just attempted to do--the Census Bureau’s statistics they gather every few years in their Census of Manufactures; good luck.  

Luddites, as I understand it, were against “machines” (and by extension, traditionally thought to be against “progress,” too) as opposed to the old, traditional way of crafting things by hand.  I am not against mechanization/automation, if such mechanization improves our situation here in the U.S.  

My argument is that by reducing our industrial base we are less secure that we were when we manufactured a large percentage of what we needed, and that, in addition, we are pretty much forced to take whatever kind of crap our suppliers send us, and we are, in reality, at their mercy, since we cannot make these items–including critical military items--for ourselves anymore.   Moreover, it seems to me that it is our overseas suppliers who have really gotten the fullest benefit from automation in industry, not us. 

Then, of course, there is the wholly different philosophical issue of whether it is preferable to have one very well-crafted and sturdy item, built to have a long service life, or several shoddily made, flimsy items that have to be periodically replaced;  we seem to have fallen for the latter philosophy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My conclusion is that over 42,000 U.S. factories closing in just the space of 10 years is not a good thing.  As for how many manufacturing establishments there currently are and how to define the “manufacturing sector,” I invite you to try to find out by wading through–as I have just attempted to do&#8211;the Census Bureau’s statistics they gather every few years in their Census of Manufactures; good luck.  </p>
<p>Luddites, as I understand it, were against “machines” (and by extension, traditionally thought to be against “progress,” too) as opposed to the old, traditional way of crafting things by hand.  I am not against mechanization/automation, if such mechanization improves our situation here in the U.S.  </p>
<p>My argument is that by reducing our industrial base we are less secure that we were when we manufactured a large percentage of what we needed, and that, in addition, we are pretty much forced to take whatever kind of crap our suppliers send us, and we are, in reality, at their mercy, since we cannot make these items–including critical military items&#8211;for ourselves anymore.   Moreover, it seems to me that it is our overseas suppliers who have really gotten the fullest benefit from automation in industry, not us. </p>
<p>Then, of course, there is the wholly different philosophical issue of whether it is preferable to have one very well-crafted and sturdy item, built to have a long service life, or several shoddily made, flimsy items that have to be periodically replaced;  we seem to have fallen for the latter philosophy.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a larger problem with earmarks, and that is that earmarks are not a feature of normal legislative practice, but are a practice that has grown up among the most influential/powerful members of Congress, who can dictate which locations, organizations or entities will get specific amounts of money within a general appropriation–earmarks often written in the most obscure of legislative language so as to disguise the fact that they are “earmarks,” and the examples I have seen so for of this practice make me think that it is much more of an ego stroking practice i.e. the myriad of projects Senator Robert Byrd steered to in West Virginia, trolling for votes, or a payoff for an ally, rather than a justifiable action--beneficial to the nation--that also benefits the congressman’s particular state in some way. 

In these categories I place Senator Byrd’s transfer of the FBI fingerprint facility from the Capitol Hill to WV, the duplicative threat analysis center that Pennsylvania’s Congressman Murtha secured for his state, and the various large and costly, seriously underutilized airports that various congressmen have secured for locations in their respective states.

Bottom line; it may benefit a particular state, but if it does not clearly benefit the U.S. as a whole, it is a payoff or an ego trip, or both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a larger problem with earmarks, and that is that earmarks are not a feature of normal legislative practice, but are a practice that has grown up among the most influential/powerful members of Congress, who can dictate which locations, organizations or entities will get specific amounts of money within a general appropriation–earmarks often written in the most obscure of legislative language so as to disguise the fact that they are “earmarks,” and the examples I have seen so for of this practice make me think that it is much more of an ego stroking practice i.e. the myriad of projects Senator Robert Byrd steered to in West Virginia, trolling for votes, or a payoff for an ally, rather than a justifiable action&#8211;beneficial to the nation&#8211;that also benefits the congressman’s particular state in some way. </p>
<p>In these categories I place Senator Byrd’s transfer of the FBI fingerprint facility from the Capitol Hill to WV, the duplicative threat analysis center that Pennsylvania’s Congressman Murtha secured for his state, and the various large and costly, seriously underutilized airports that various congressmen have secured for locations in their respective states.</p>
<p>Bottom line; it may benefit a particular state, but if it does not clearly benefit the U.S. as a whole, it is a payoff or an ego trip, or both.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We, the tea party, knew this fight was coming, and from the very beginning it has been apparent that the enemy are not people, but ideas which are antithetical to a constitutional republic. That the ideas crystallize in many people to the point where those people become an enemy is an enormous dilemma: If we do not treat them as an enemy, it is to our peril. If we do treat them as an enemy, we become endangered and risk losing our humanity. 

McConnell and the pro-earmark faction speak for an idea whose time to expire has come. But McConnell and the pro-earmark faction have not crossed the line; they have not become unreachable on most ideas and therefore our enemies. We know that their deep down devotion to this idea is self-interest. So be it. But tone and respect are awfully important here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We, the tea party, knew this fight was coming, and from the very beginning it has been apparent that the enemy are not people, but ideas which are antithetical to a constitutional republic. That the ideas crystallize in many people to the point where those people become an enemy is an enormous dilemma: If we do not treat them as an enemy, it is to our peril. If we do treat them as an enemy, we become endangered and risk losing our humanity. </p>
<p>McConnell and the pro-earmark faction speak for an idea whose time to expire has come. But McConnell and the pro-earmark faction have not crossed the line; they have not become unreachable on most ideas and therefore our enemies. We know that their deep down devotion to this idea is self-interest. So be it. But tone and respect are awfully important here.</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oldflyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It appears that this is going to be another instance of letting the opposition define your terms.

Someone rightly commented that the public defines, and hates, earmarks as stealth projects that are added to spending bills at the last moment, without debate or actual votes on their merits.

But, now it suits the purposes of some to greatly broaden that definition to encompass any spending delineated in specific terms by Congress--even if it survives the full appropriation process.

I absolutely hate the distortion of language and terminology in order to obscure issues.  At the risk of revealing homophobia, I have always considered the corruption of the word &quot;gay&quot; to be a prime example.  Another is the term, &quot;reproductive rights&quot;.  I wish those  folks privileged to have a public voice would immediately object whenever this tactic is attempted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that this is going to be another instance of letting the opposition define your terms.</p>
<p>Someone rightly commented that the public defines, and hates, earmarks as stealth projects that are added to spending bills at the last moment, without debate or actual votes on their merits.</p>
<p>But, now it suits the purposes of some to greatly broaden that definition to encompass any spending delineated in specific terms by Congress&#8211;even if it survives the full appropriation process.</p>
<p>I absolutely hate the distortion of language and terminology in order to obscure issues.  At the risk of revealing homophobia, I have always considered the corruption of the word &#8220;gay&#8221; to be a prime example.  Another is the term, &#8220;reproductive rights&#8221;.  I wish those  folks privileged to have a public voice would immediately object whenever this tactic is attempted.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wolla Dolba, I think you have tapped into largely half-truths weaved into a narrative. There&#039;s something of the &quot;Luddite&quot; argument in your facts and conclusions. That 42,400 factories have closed has no context. How many factories closed in the previous 10 years? How many opened? And might there be other explanations for the closings? How many are replaced through the use of flexible and cellular manufacturing.

The U.S. is still a leader in production requiring highly skilled labor, management and complex machinery. Further, outsourcing production of &quot;junk&quot; allows more disposable income to American consumers. For instance, you may buy a high quality, robust, long lasting razor, but most people will spend only one-tenth of what you spent for your razor. 

The areas we should be looking at are de-regulation, cutting taxes, stopping the funding of welfare to immigrants, repealing minimum wage and prevailing wage requirements, decreasing union influence and bringing back home energy production.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolla Dolba, I think you have tapped into largely half-truths weaved into a narrative. There&#8217;s something of the &#8220;Luddite&#8221; argument in your facts and conclusions. That 42,400 factories have closed has no context. How many factories closed in the previous 10 years? How many opened? And might there be other explanations for the closings? How many are replaced through the use of flexible and cellular manufacturing.</p>
<p>The U.S. is still a leader in production requiring highly skilled labor, management and complex machinery. Further, outsourcing production of &#8220;junk&#8221; allows more disposable income to American consumers. For instance, you may buy a high quality, robust, long lasting razor, but most people will spend only one-tenth of what you spent for your razor. </p>
<p>The areas we should be looking at are de-regulation, cutting taxes, stopping the funding of welfare to immigrants, repealing minimum wage and prevailing wage requirements, decreasing union influence and bringing back home energy production.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is a good place to start, industrial policy:

The United States used to be an industrial giant, in fact, a good case could be made that, rather than the U.S. overwhelming the Axis powers in WWII solely by our military might, it would be more accurate to say that we actually overwhelmed them with our productive capacity; aircraft and ships and weapons the Axis lost could not be easily replaced or–thanks to our bombing campaigns--replaced at all towards the end of the war but, once we got rolling, for every airplane or tank or ship or gun we lost, we built two or four  or six more, and, eventually, the sheer weight of our material superiority just buried the Axis.;  we might have well just dropped everything that poured out of our factories–guns, aircraft, ships and supplies--from the air on Japan and Germany, it would have just as easily done the job.

We used to have an enormous “industrial base,” and we took raw materials (many ones we found and extracted from our own lands) and made steel and aluminum, nuts and bolts, lubricants, copper wire and tires, and then we took those things and built ships and aircraft, sewing machines and cars, tractors, transformers and air conditioners, factories and a transportation system; we made our own TVs, we made our own textiles and clothes, we made our own telephones, and we made our own lathes and our own furniture.  

Unwisely and suicidally our policy for quite a few decades now has been to change as rapidly as possible from a manufacturing to a service economy, from making concrete products to just doing research and marketing our ideas, from making products to importing products, and all of those millions of jobs that used to be the engine that ran a large part of our economy have been transferred overseas;  we not longer sell to others, it is we who buy from them, we no longer make high quality, robust, long lasting products, we buy cheap, flimsy, quickly broken and replaced junk from China and elsewhere; and because of this we are dependent on our foreign suppliers.

To get some idea of how bad things are, look at this estimate from “The American Prospect,” that since 2001, 42,400 U.S. factories–large and small–have closed (http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_plight_of_american_manufacturing).  I think that reversing this trend and making us again the world’s leader in not only research and ideas but in the production of goods might be a worthy goal for Conservative/Republicans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a good place to start, industrial policy:</p>
<p>The United States used to be an industrial giant, in fact, a good case could be made that, rather than the U.S. overwhelming the Axis powers in WWII solely by our military might, it would be more accurate to say that we actually overwhelmed them with our productive capacity; aircraft and ships and weapons the Axis lost could not be easily replaced or–thanks to our bombing campaigns&#8211;replaced at all towards the end of the war but, once we got rolling, for every airplane or tank or ship or gun we lost, we built two or four  or six more, and, eventually, the sheer weight of our material superiority just buried the Axis.;  we might have well just dropped everything that poured out of our factories–guns, aircraft, ships and supplies&#8211;from the air on Japan and Germany, it would have just as easily done the job.</p>
<p>We used to have an enormous “industrial base,” and we took raw materials (many ones we found and extracted from our own lands) and made steel and aluminum, nuts and bolts, lubricants, copper wire and tires, and then we took those things and built ships and aircraft, sewing machines and cars, tractors, transformers and air conditioners, factories and a transportation system; we made our own TVs, we made our own textiles and clothes, we made our own telephones, and we made our own lathes and our own furniture.  </p>
<p>Unwisely and suicidally our policy for quite a few decades now has been to change as rapidly as possible from a manufacturing to a service economy, from making concrete products to just doing research and marketing our ideas, from making products to importing products, and all of those millions of jobs that used to be the engine that ran a large part of our economy have been transferred overseas;  we not longer sell to others, it is we who buy from them, we no longer make high quality, robust, long lasting products, we buy cheap, flimsy, quickly broken and replaced junk from China and elsewhere; and because of this we are dependent on our foreign suppliers.</p>
<p>To get some idea of how bad things are, look at this estimate from “The American Prospect,” that since 2001, 42,400 U.S. factories–large and small–have closed (<a href="http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_plight_of_american_manufacturing" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_plight_of_american_manufacturing</a>).  I think that reversing this trend and making us again the world’s leader in not only research and ideas but in the production of goods might be a worthy goal for Conservative/Republicans.</p>
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