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		By: Anonna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d say black stole tap dancing from the Irish. Does that make me somehow racist? Not that I care.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say black stole tap dancing from the Irish. Does that make me somehow racist? Not that I care.</p>
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		By: Jamie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 23:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My oldest and I had a conversation about &lt;i&gt;Avatar&lt;/i&gt; the other day. He didn&#039;t especially like it - felt that too much of it was done purely for effect, not advancing the story - but on the subject of its 3d rendering, he flip-flopped.

He didn&#039;t like the 3d because it wasn&#039;t sufficiently in-your-face - he said, &quot;It was like, &#039;Gosh, that tree is &lt;i&gt;even more obviously&lt;/i&gt; in front of the other tree!&#039;&quot;. (I love my son. He&#039;s funny.) I told him it was my opinion that as 3d develops, it&#039;ll take two simultaneous paths. One, I thought, would be the &quot;artsy&quot; path, in which the director (or whoever&#039;s in charge) seeks to minimize the audience&#039;s awareness of the 3d so that the film as a whole is basically so 3d that it appears to be real, no matter what the subject matter. (I said, &quot;That&#039;s the &lt;i&gt;adult&lt;/i&gt; approach.&quot;) And the other path would be the &quot;in-your-face&quot; approach, in which things are deliberately zoomed at the audience so they could ooh and aah as if they&#039;re on a visual roller coaster. This, I told him, would be the &quot;kid&quot; approach.

I was mostly tweaking him about the adult-vs.-kid divide. But it occurred to me later that my own prejudices were coloring my perception of this new art form: I prefer to suspend my disbelief and don&#039;t give a hoot if something flies out of the screen at me, so to me it&#039;s more &quot;high art&quot; if any 3d in a movie is subtle and atmospheric. But who&#039;s to say that 3d movies aren&#039;t basically speciating away from 2d, and will one day be their own unique form, in which (who knows?) the more obvious the 3d effect, the higher the art?

I&#039;m a curmudgeon, apparently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My oldest and I had a conversation about <i>Avatar</i> the other day. He didn&#8217;t especially like it &#8211; felt that too much of it was done purely for effect, not advancing the story &#8211; but on the subject of its 3d rendering, he flip-flopped.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t like the 3d because it wasn&#8217;t sufficiently in-your-face &#8211; he said, &#8220;It was like, &#8216;Gosh, that tree is <i>even more obviously</i> in front of the other tree!'&#8221;. (I love my son. He&#8217;s funny.) I told him it was my opinion that as 3d develops, it&#8217;ll take two simultaneous paths. One, I thought, would be the &#8220;artsy&#8221; path, in which the director (or whoever&#8217;s in charge) seeks to minimize the audience&#8217;s awareness of the 3d so that the film as a whole is basically so 3d that it appears to be real, no matter what the subject matter. (I said, &#8220;That&#8217;s the <i>adult</i> approach.&#8221;) And the other path would be the &#8220;in-your-face&#8221; approach, in which things are deliberately zoomed at the audience so they could ooh and aah as if they&#8217;re on a visual roller coaster. This, I told him, would be the &#8220;kid&#8221; approach.</p>
<p>I was mostly tweaking him about the adult-vs.-kid divide. But it occurred to me later that my own prejudices were coloring my perception of this new art form: I prefer to suspend my disbelief and don&#8217;t give a hoot if something flies out of the screen at me, so to me it&#8217;s more &#8220;high art&#8221; if any 3d in a movie is subtle and atmospheric. But who&#8217;s to say that 3d movies aren&#8217;t basically speciating away from 2d, and will one day be their own unique form, in which (who knows?) the more obvious the 3d effect, the higher the art?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a curmudgeon, apparently.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 08:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of the silliness in some native American circles where you need to be demonstrably at least 1/16th indian blood to sell &quot;tribal art&quot;. WTF? 

We&#039;ve so mythologised American indian culture you&#039;d swear they never possesed a single ignorant a$$hole and a guy named Bob in New Jersey can suddenly be said to be at one with nature if he finds out his great great grandfather was Sitting Bull&#039;s fifth cousin on his mother&#039;s side.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the silliness in some native American circles where you need to be demonstrably at least 1/16th indian blood to sell &#8220;tribal art&#8221;. WTF? </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve so mythologised American indian culture you&#8217;d swear they never possesed a single ignorant a$$hole and a guy named Bob in New Jersey can suddenly be said to be at one with nature if he finds out his great great grandfather was Sitting Bull&#8217;s fifth cousin on his mother&#8217;s side.</p>
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		By: Nolanimrod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nolanimrod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, yes. Swiss bankers and Belarus cock-fighting impresarios all agree: &lt;em&gt;You got peanut butter in my chocolate&lt;/em&gt;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes. Swiss bankers and Belarus cock-fighting impresarios all agree: <em>You got peanut butter in my chocolate</em>!</p>
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		By: anna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 01:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Somewhat related...

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/03/16/89-saint-patricks-day/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhat related&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/03/16/89-saint-patricks-day/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/03/16/89-saint-patricks-day/</a></p>
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		By: Tatyana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatyana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 23:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That comments scratched me, too - but being a &lt;i&gt;naturalized&lt;/i&gt; American, I felt unqualified to criticize it.
Thank you, Neo, you  - once again - relayed what was on my mind, and did it beautifully.

AVI: add List to Bela Bartok. And Chaikovsky. And pretty much all Russian composers of 19cent. And Shostakovich. And if we start looking into Brazilian music&#039; influences...oy gevolt!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That comments scratched me, too &#8211; but being a <i>naturalized</i> American, I felt unqualified to criticize it.<br />
Thank you, Neo, you  &#8211; once again &#8211; relayed what was on my mind, and did it beautifully.</p>
<p>AVI: add List to Bela Bartok. And Chaikovsky. And pretty much all Russian composers of 19cent. And Shostakovich. And if we start looking into Brazilian music&#8217; influences&#8230;oy gevolt!</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 21:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Read a thread some time back lamenting the stealing of the Maori dance called the &quot;haka&quot;.
A bit late. The horse is out of the barn.  College and some high school football teams do it before the game.
You can start by searching for &quot;haka byu&quot;.
Seems to me to show respect for the Maoris.
But, nooooooo.  Rotten white man stealing the poor, downtrodden, helpless Maoris&#039; daaaance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read a thread some time back lamenting the stealing of the Maori dance called the &#8220;haka&#8221;.<br />
A bit late. The horse is out of the barn.  College and some high school football teams do it before the game.<br />
You can start by searching for &#8220;haka byu&#8221;.<br />
Seems to me to show respect for the Maoris.<br />
But, nooooooo.  Rotten white man stealing the poor, downtrodden, helpless Maoris&#8217; daaaance.</p>
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		By: Shouting Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shouting Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Likewise, the blues is constantly beset by the controversy over &quot;authenticity.&quot;

Whites are supposedly not authentic, and stole everything from blacks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likewise, the blues is constantly beset by the controversy over &#8220;authenticity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whites are supposedly not authentic, and stole everything from blacks.</p>
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		By: E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What the Nicholas Brothers accomplished in the Stormy Weather clip was both visual and aural - their dancing is not only a delight to the eyes, but a treat for the ears. They are active members of the orchestra, dancing in and around the musicians, and the explosive rhythmic tapping of their feet puts them squarely in the percussion section, even as they wing around the whole expanse of the stage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Nicholas Brothers accomplished in the Stormy Weather clip was both visual and aural &#8211; their dancing is not only a delight to the eyes, but a treat for the ears. They are active members of the orchestra, dancing in and around the musicians, and the explosive rhythmic tapping of their feet puts them squarely in the percussion section, even as they wing around the whole expanse of the stage.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assistant Village Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, that Bela Bartok just stole all those folk melodies like Belenyes and ruined them, eh?  Just so that he could impress all his fancy city friends.  Any Hungarian who plays his stuff is just a sellout.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that Bela Bartok just stole all those folk melodies like Belenyes and ruined them, eh?  Just so that he could impress all his fancy city friends.  Any Hungarian who plays his stuff is just a sellout.</p>
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