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	Comments on: Schieffer and Axelrod on the Chamber of Commerce and foreign donations	</title>
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		By: br549		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[br549]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[They are deeply embedded. Everywhere. They are going to have to be removed. Why we are dancing around that is beyond me.

Hopefully, they can all be voted out, and then the bureaucrats fired and replaced (government unions, anyone?). The MSM will get honest, or go out of business. 

One side will win, one side will lose. Make it happen, watch it happen, or wonder what happened. But &quot;it&quot; is going to happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are deeply embedded. Everywhere. They are going to have to be removed. Why we are dancing around that is beyond me.</p>
<p>Hopefully, they can all be voted out, and then the bureaucrats fired and replaced (government unions, anyone?). The MSM will get honest, or go out of business. </p>
<p>One side will win, one side will lose. Make it happen, watch it happen, or wonder what happened. But &#8220;it&#8221; is going to happen.</p>
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		By: Steve G		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In one respect making the Chamber of Commerce the latest whipping boy is sort of humorous.  It is liberal projection run amok.  But, in another respect this attack is very, very troubling.  The Dope and his court are as one in pushing this unsubstantiated charge of foreign moneys even though it is not true (and they know it) and ineffective (and they know that, too).  If this is designed to energize the base it will have an even greater effect on independents and members of the other party.   This is just disgusting.

So, as with all of the Dope&#039;s strategies and tactics, one should stand back and sort of seek to fathom what is really behind this counterproductive attack.  The answer is nothing than a show of being anti-business.  Why attack the Chamber of Commerce?  After all, they also contribute to Democrats and many Democrats are members.  But, the part that I find disquieting is that it is business that generates jobs and the Dope is doing his best to antagonize the job creators.  Is this an unintended window into the Dope&#039;s soul?  Who knows or, by this time, cares?

If this is what the first team will try and sell (without arguing with the Dope) get ready for the second team.  They will no more question this sort of stupidity than does Jarrett, Axelrod and Gibbs.  After all, they bring no individual strengths or independent thinking to their new jobs.  My opinion is that the Dope chooses for his team people with obvious defects or weaknesses who are easier to threaten and maneuver.  As examples, Geithner (the tax cheat) and Summers (the misogynist).  So, he creates a team of &quot;Yes&quot; men and women, as well as a few who simply &quot;adore&quot; him.

GIven this mean intentioned attack BEFORE the election, one has to ask with some trepidation what the Dope will be like after the polls close in three weeks.   The stars are not in alignment for a very propitious end to his first (and last?) terms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one respect making the Chamber of Commerce the latest whipping boy is sort of humorous.  It is liberal projection run amok.  But, in another respect this attack is very, very troubling.  The Dope and his court are as one in pushing this unsubstantiated charge of foreign moneys even though it is not true (and they know it) and ineffective (and they know that, too).  If this is designed to energize the base it will have an even greater effect on independents and members of the other party.   This is just disgusting.</p>
<p>So, as with all of the Dope&#8217;s strategies and tactics, one should stand back and sort of seek to fathom what is really behind this counterproductive attack.  The answer is nothing than a show of being anti-business.  Why attack the Chamber of Commerce?  After all, they also contribute to Democrats and many Democrats are members.  But, the part that I find disquieting is that it is business that generates jobs and the Dope is doing his best to antagonize the job creators.  Is this an unintended window into the Dope&#8217;s soul?  Who knows or, by this time, cares?</p>
<p>If this is what the first team will try and sell (without arguing with the Dope) get ready for the second team.  They will no more question this sort of stupidity than does Jarrett, Axelrod and Gibbs.  After all, they bring no individual strengths or independent thinking to their new jobs.  My opinion is that the Dope chooses for his team people with obvious defects or weaknesses who are easier to threaten and maneuver.  As examples, Geithner (the tax cheat) and Summers (the misogynist).  So, he creates a team of &#8220;Yes&#8221; men and women, as well as a few who simply &#8220;adore&#8221; him.</p>
<p>GIven this mean intentioned attack BEFORE the election, one has to ask with some trepidation what the Dope will be like after the polls close in three weeks.   The stars are not in alignment for a very propitious end to his first (and last?) terms.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I must say that it is amazing to me what the MSM presents to us to focus on and what it ignores, and I cannot believe that this is not very considered and deliberate policy.  

Thus, at a time when the supposedly peaceful and relatively passive Ikhwan suddenly reveals itself to be feral and rabid, and declares war on all unbelievers, on the West, and on the United States, and tells its large world-wide following among Muslims to take up arms and to join in the violent Jihad against us, we are presented, not with reporting on and analysis of this major development--which could be a game changer--with ramifications for the safety and survival of our nations and us as individuals, but we are, instead, presented with hours and hours of coverage of the rescue of trapped miners in Chile.  

The trial of the Ft. Hood Jihadi, Maj. Hasan, is apparently to be postponed until after the November elections, as are the disciplinary proceedings against Congressman Charlie Rangel and Congresswoman Maxine Waters but, as with the news about the Ikhwan, we are supposed to turn our eyes away from these suspiciously convenient developments and what would seem to be substantial stories, as our MSM declines to focus on or to explore these stories and, instead, we get endless and obsessive MSM coverage of Axelrod, Gibbs, Clinton, Kane and every other Democratic sock puppet yammering–apparently without a shred of proof--about how nefarious, shadowy, eeevil foreigners (I thought that the cosmopolitan,” “citizen of the world” Democrats have always pointed to their Republican enemies as the ones who are the knuckle-dragging, gap toothed, gun-toting, uneducated “nativists” who are prejudiced and irrationally afraid of “ferreners”)–who are pouring money into the election to influence it to our detriment, and supposedly using the Chamber of Commerce as their conduit, and declaring that, now that Democrats have made this charge, it is up to the Chamber to open its books for inspection in order to prove its innocence i.e. the Chamber is guilty until proved innocent.

Is it any wonder that the MSM sees its relevance, its audience and its credibility rapidly declining on a daily basis?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that it is amazing to me what the MSM presents to us to focus on and what it ignores, and I cannot believe that this is not very considered and deliberate policy.  </p>
<p>Thus, at a time when the supposedly peaceful and relatively passive Ikhwan suddenly reveals itself to be feral and rabid, and declares war on all unbelievers, on the West, and on the United States, and tells its large world-wide following among Muslims to take up arms and to join in the violent Jihad against us, we are presented, not with reporting on and analysis of this major development&#8211;which could be a game changer&#8211;with ramifications for the safety and survival of our nations and us as individuals, but we are, instead, presented with hours and hours of coverage of the rescue of trapped miners in Chile.  </p>
<p>The trial of the Ft. Hood Jihadi, Maj. Hasan, is apparently to be postponed until after the November elections, as are the disciplinary proceedings against Congressman Charlie Rangel and Congresswoman Maxine Waters but, as with the news about the Ikhwan, we are supposed to turn our eyes away from these suspiciously convenient developments and what would seem to be substantial stories, as our MSM declines to focus on or to explore these stories and, instead, we get endless and obsessive MSM coverage of Axelrod, Gibbs, Clinton, Kane and every other Democratic sock puppet yammering–apparently without a shred of proof&#8211;about how nefarious, shadowy, eeevil foreigners (I thought that the cosmopolitan,” “citizen of the world” Democrats have always pointed to their Republican enemies as the ones who are the knuckle-dragging, gap toothed, gun-toting, uneducated “nativists” who are prejudiced and irrationally afraid of “ferreners”)–who are pouring money into the election to influence it to our detriment, and supposedly using the Chamber of Commerce as their conduit, and declaring that, now that Democrats have made this charge, it is up to the Chamber to open its books for inspection in order to prove its innocence i.e. the Chamber is guilty until proved innocent.</p>
<p>Is it any wonder that the MSM sees its relevance, its audience and its credibility rapidly declining on a daily basis?</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anna--I have seen the term &quot;undermedia&quot; used.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna&#8211;I have seen the term &#8220;undermedia&#8221; used.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assistant Village Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rickl - those of us who live in New England have seen plenty of this.  I am not surprised that in the DC area there are many as well.  It is saddening to hear what is essentially &quot;But they&#039;re goobers; we can&#039;t have that&quot; being put forward as an intellectual argument.

To cheer yourself up, go over to Iowahawk&#039;s site and search under &quot;Coddington.&quot;  Multiple uproarious posts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rickl &#8211; those of us who live in New England have seen plenty of this.  I am not surprised that in the DC area there are many as well.  It is saddening to hear what is essentially &#8220;But they&#8217;re goobers; we can&#8217;t have that&#8221; being put forward as an intellectual argument.</p>
<p>To cheer yourself up, go over to Iowahawk&#8217;s site and search under &#8220;Coddington.&#8221;  Multiple uproarious posts.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rickl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Get a load of this.  Words fail me.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://biggovernment.com/rbidinotto/2010/10/12/will-the-ruling-class-right-rescue-vulnerable-dems/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Will the ‘Ruling Class Right’ Rescue Vulnerable Dems?&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a load of this.  Words fail me.</p>
<p><a href="http://biggovernment.com/rbidinotto/2010/10/12/will-the-ruling-class-right-rescue-vulnerable-dems/" rel="nofollow">Will the ‘Ruling Class Right’ Rescue Vulnerable Dems?</a></p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 04:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tragically the Dems are polling better than one would suppose based on Obama&#039;s abyssal record.  It does not look anything like the 1994 Repub victory when 10 senate seats went red along with 51 house seats.  

I can&#039;t explain it.  Clinton at his worse was vastly better than Obama under any conditions, yet it looks like Obama&#039;s midterm defeat will not be particularly bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tragically the Dems are polling better than one would suppose based on Obama&#8217;s abyssal record.  It does not look anything like the 1994 Repub victory when 10 senate seats went red along with 51 house seats.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t explain it.  Clinton at his worse was vastly better than Obama under any conditions, yet it looks like Obama&#8217;s midterm defeat will not be particularly bad.</p>
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		By: Rupert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rupert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 03:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Growing up near Chicago I am amazed that people find Obama strange. The dirty tricks that got him into the Senate are mindblowing - for those who are not from this area. I was kind of going for the Glenn Beck conspiracy thing, but stupidity answers most questions.
* We have the president that was most desired. Do people understand that this is not American Idol? We can&#039;t vote him out on TV. Meh, I still believe that God watches over this nation; why? beats me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up near Chicago I am amazed that people find Obama strange. The dirty tricks that got him into the Senate are mindblowing &#8211; for those who are not from this area. I was kind of going for the Glenn Beck conspiracy thing, but stupidity answers most questions.<br />
* We have the president that was most desired. Do people understand that this is not American Idol? We can&#8217;t vote him out on TV. Meh, I still believe that God watches over this nation; why? beats me.</p>
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		By: E		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find George Soros&#039; forthrightness rather encouraging. He&#039;s basically said there&#039;s not enough money in the world to buy the outcome he wants in this election cycle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find George Soros&#8217; forthrightness rather encouraging. He&#8217;s basically said there&#8217;s not enough money in the world to buy the outcome he wants in this election cycle.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 00:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;White House officials called on the chamber to go beyond current disclosure laws and establish that no foreign money has been used in its political campaigns. “They can put this to rest,” said Joshua Earnest, a White House spokesman. “They have the keys to the file cabinet.” 

Keys to:

Obama&#039;s birth certificate, kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, client list from his time in private practice, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, his baptism records and his adoption records . . .

are in the file cabinet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;White House officials called on the chamber to go beyond current disclosure laws and establish that no foreign money has been used in its political campaigns. “They can put this to rest,” said Joshua Earnest, a White House spokesman. “They have the keys to the file cabinet.” </p>
<p>Keys to:</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s birth certificate, kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, client list from his time in private practice, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, his baptism records and his adoption records . . .</p>
<p>are in the file cabinet.</p>
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