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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/09/15/more-on-the-castle-defeat/#comment-186442</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Mc.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why O&#039;Donnell will win:

1. She is not nearly as bad as I originally thought.

2. She&#039;s already had the Palin treatment in that she&#039;s been slandered to the max and there is no more slander left in the slander box. But, when people actually look at the charges and actually hear her talk, they will say, &#039;That&#039;s what I am supposed to be upset about?? She&#039;s not so bad at all! Why are people saying she is?&#039;

3. She raised close to $1m in one day. She has almost all the money she needs in a small State to get her message out effectively and often in the next 6 weeks. She can hire top people to market her campaign. She got a complete windfall from the negative publicity! The NRSC is going to give her its max- a whoppig 42K. She raised 20x that by the internet yesterday. They are small players. Her own campaign is bigger than them.

4. Her opponent is someone people have heard of and like - but not yet as a Senate candidate in this election. She is down 11 points which means she needs to change 5.5 to vote for her over him. Not a monumental feat given the momentum she has and the name rec and the endorsements now.

5. This year, a vote for any Dem is a vote to keep going on course, but upwards of 60+% say the course is wrong. I don&#039;t care how blue Delaware is supposed to be. If O&#039;Donnell runs a decent campaign she should peel off 5.5-10. She may win going away by Nov. 2nd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why O&#8217;Donnell will win:</p>
<p>1. She is not nearly as bad as I originally thought.</p>
<p>2. She&#8217;s already had the Palin treatment in that she&#8217;s been slandered to the max and there is no more slander left in the slander box. But, when people actually look at the charges and actually hear her talk, they will say, &#8216;That&#8217;s what I am supposed to be upset about?? She&#8217;s not so bad at all! Why are people saying she is?&#8217;</p>
<p>3. She raised close to $1m in one day. She has almost all the money she needs in a small State to get her message out effectively and often in the next 6 weeks. She can hire top people to market her campaign. She got a complete windfall from the negative publicity! The NRSC is going to give her its max- a whoppig 42K. She raised 20x that by the internet yesterday. They are small players. Her own campaign is bigger than them.</p>
<p>4. Her opponent is someone people have heard of and like &#8211; but not yet as a Senate candidate in this election. She is down 11 points which means she needs to change 5.5 to vote for her over him. Not a monumental feat given the momentum she has and the name rec and the endorsements now.</p>
<p>5. This year, a vote for any Dem is a vote to keep going on course, but upwards of 60+% say the course is wrong. I don&#8217;t care how blue Delaware is supposed to be. If O&#8217;Donnell runs a decent campaign she should peel off 5.5-10. She may win going away by Nov. 2nd.</p>
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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/09/15/more-on-the-castle-defeat/#comment-186436</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Mc.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are doing what he did. 1) Taking the allegations go be true, when you don&#039;t know - and then 2) taking them to be of a more serious nature relative to what is already going on in Congress when they aren&#039;t even close; and 3) writing a thesis on why everything sinks because of it.

You add the standard lib tactic of calling me defensive (by which you mean to say I am wrong) for stating the obvious and asking the obvious like, &#039;How do you know?&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are doing what he did. 1) Taking the allegations go be true, when you don&#8217;t know &#8211; and then 2) taking them to be of a more serious nature relative to what is already going on in Congress when they aren&#8217;t even close; and 3) writing a thesis on why everything sinks because of it.</p>
<p>You add the standard lib tactic of calling me defensive (by which you mean to say I am wrong) for stating the obvious and asking the obvious like, &#8216;How do you know?&#8217;</p>
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		By: OlderandWheezier		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/09/15/more-on-the-castle-defeat/#comment-186413</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why so defensive, Mike?  Does it actually make you feel better to dismiss someone just because their views differ from yours (&quot;We know the truth about you anyway...&quot; - are you serious?)

What if the allegations in Tom&#039;s post are revealed to be factual?  If so, then I&#039;d hardly call it &quot;small change&quot;  that a candidate for major office is at the least a habitual liar and at worst truly delusional.

The more stridently you lash out against those who dare to register any reservations about your latest political crush, the more you remind me of the extreme leftists whom we&#039;ve all grown to despise.  Seriously.

&quot;Game&#039;s Over, Tom.&quot; - gee, sounds a little bit like another phrase we&#039;ve had to stomach all too often over the past 18 months - &quot;I won.&quot;  Get the picture?

I&#039;ve lashed out time and again on this site against the current pack of jackals in Congress and in the White House, and I&#039;m frustrated that Republican senators such as Snowe can&#039;t be counted on to take a conservative stance.  But if Snowe&#039;s votes are representative of the will of the majority of the people of Maine, then she is doing the job she was elected to do.  Since I don&#039;t live in Maine, I don&#039;t consider it my personal business.

Kicking the Democrats&#039; butts as badly as possible this November is important to me.  But if those elected are not fit for the job, regardless of whether they belong to the right party or claim to have the right philosophy, then those November gains will be short-lived.  Remember that many so-called political observers a couple of years ago were proclaiming the death of conservatism.  Don&#039;t make the mistake of thinking that we can&#039;t be just as arrogant - and eventually just as wrong - in proclaiming the end of liberal/progressive clout in D.C.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why so defensive, Mike?  Does it actually make you feel better to dismiss someone just because their views differ from yours (&#8220;We know the truth about you anyway&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; are you serious?)</p>
<p>What if the allegations in Tom&#8217;s post are revealed to be factual?  If so, then I&#8217;d hardly call it &#8220;small change&#8221;  that a candidate for major office is at the least a habitual liar and at worst truly delusional.</p>
<p>The more stridently you lash out against those who dare to register any reservations about your latest political crush, the more you remind me of the extreme leftists whom we&#8217;ve all grown to despise.  Seriously.</p>
<p>&#8220;Game&#8217;s Over, Tom.&#8221; &#8211; gee, sounds a little bit like another phrase we&#8217;ve had to stomach all too often over the past 18 months &#8211; &#8220;I won.&#8221;  Get the picture?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lashed out time and again on this site against the current pack of jackals in Congress and in the White House, and I&#8217;m frustrated that Republican senators such as Snowe can&#8217;t be counted on to take a conservative stance.  But if Snowe&#8217;s votes are representative of the will of the majority of the people of Maine, then she is doing the job she was elected to do.  Since I don&#8217;t live in Maine, I don&#8217;t consider it my personal business.</p>
<p>Kicking the Democrats&#8217; butts as badly as possible this November is important to me.  But if those elected are not fit for the job, regardless of whether they belong to the right party or claim to have the right philosophy, then those November gains will be short-lived.  Remember that many so-called political observers a couple of years ago were proclaiming the death of conservatism.  Don&#8217;t make the mistake of thinking that we can&#8217;t be just as arrogant &#8211; and eventually just as wrong &#8211; in proclaiming the end of liberal/progressive clout in D.C.</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/09/15/more-on-the-castle-defeat/#comment-186411</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

I can see that you are conflicted as am I.

What drives our analysis is the same goal of a better future.

Your points are all 100% understood and I am not directing any of my comments in your direction.

I think the key is that nobody knows the future.

The Castle supporters seem to believe that they KNOW that O&#039;Donnell can&#039;t win. That is the majority of their argument.

I want all Castle supporters and Mike himself to throw their support behind O&#039;Donnell and stop with the petty arguments against her.

Let O&#039;Donnell speak for herself.

Let&#039;s get behind her. She won.

And yes. I recognise that your first post said that you would vote for her in the general (if you lived in Delaware of course). Same here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>I can see that you are conflicted as am I.</p>
<p>What drives our analysis is the same goal of a better future.</p>
<p>Your points are all 100% understood and I am not directing any of my comments in your direction.</p>
<p>I think the key is that nobody knows the future.</p>
<p>The Castle supporters seem to believe that they KNOW that O&#8217;Donnell can&#8217;t win. That is the majority of their argument.</p>
<p>I want all Castle supporters and Mike himself to throw their support behind O&#8217;Donnell and stop with the petty arguments against her.</p>
<p>Let O&#8217;Donnell speak for herself.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get behind her. She won.</p>
<p>And yes. I recognise that your first post said that you would vote for her in the general (if you lived in Delaware of course). Same here.</p>
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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/09/15/more-on-the-castle-defeat/#comment-186408</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom,

Everything you mentioned is ridiculous in a few senses:

1. None if it is necessarily true. You take things at face-value that other people wrote, and then act as if you know they are true. You don&#039;t. An honest person would give O&#039;Donnell&#039;s explanations about the allegations.

2. They are all very &#039;small change&#039;. The freaking current VP is a proven plagiarist - and that is one of his minor offenses. The current Pres probably did not write a book he&#039;s made millions on. Several Dems have real crimes and ethical issues - from scholarships, to land deals, to 100Gs in the refrigerator. Your outrage is therefore exposed as being totally fake.

Can you be honest for a moment? We know the truth about you anyway: You are scared to death of her and what she represents, and especially the people and movement that voted her in. You know your fav pols and party are next.

And you are right. They are next.

Game&#039;s over Tom. It&#039;s a matter of time before the entire liberal agenda is systematically dismantled in record time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Everything you mentioned is ridiculous in a few senses:</p>
<p>1. None if it is necessarily true. You take things at face-value that other people wrote, and then act as if you know they are true. You don&#8217;t. An honest person would give O&#8217;Donnell&#8217;s explanations about the allegations.</p>
<p>2. They are all very &#8216;small change&#8217;. The freaking current VP is a proven plagiarist &#8211; and that is one of his minor offenses. The current Pres probably did not write a book he&#8217;s made millions on. Several Dems have real crimes and ethical issues &#8211; from scholarships, to land deals, to 100Gs in the refrigerator. Your outrage is therefore exposed as being totally fake.</p>
<p>Can you be honest for a moment? We know the truth about you anyway: You are scared to death of her and what she represents, and especially the people and movement that voted her in. You know your fav pols and party are next.</p>
<p>And you are right. They are next.</p>
<p>Game&#8217;s over Tom. It&#8217;s a matter of time before the entire liberal agenda is systematically dismantled in record time.</p>
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		By: Tom the Redhunter		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/09/15/more-on-the-castle-defeat/#comment-186405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom the Redhunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok kids, so you can&#039;t follow links.   Unlike you I don&#039;t have all day to type on blogs but I&#039;ll humor you this time.   Here are a few tidbits

She used campaign funds to pay half her house rent

Her financial disclosure forms only show an earned income of $5,800 last year.    Hmmm.   A single person living on $5,800 ?????    When asked about it she said she actually made more but wouldn&#039;t tell about it - clearly illegal to hide income need I remind everyone.   

She claims that her opponents follow her around &quot;They’re following me. They follow me home at night.&quot;  and &quot;They’re hiding in the bushes when I’m at candidate forums.&quot;   and &quot;In 2008 they broke into my home. They vandalized my home. &quot;  - but hey, she&#039;s got no police report or even a third-party verification!  in other words, she&#039;s got paranoid delusions.   

When Scott Rasmussen came out with a poll showing her behind, her campaign manager insinuated that Rasmussen had deliberately fudged the poll at the insistence of the RNC and NRSC.   

She claimed she won 2 of 3 counties in her last race.... but oops that turns out not to be true.    

She accused her opponent, Mike Castle, of being gay.   No proof or evidence, of course.   

One of her former campaign managers (did I mention that she&#039;s a perennial candidate like Alan Keys?)  has come out and said that O&#039;Donnell is a fake conservative and is only in it for the money.   

Then there&#039;s that $6.9 million lawsuit for &quot;mental anguish&quot; against the conservative non-profit Intercollegiate Studies Institute.   According to the complaint &quot;Miss O&#039;Donnell&#039;s mother and sister both noticed and spontaneously told her at the time, prior to litigation, that she was differently [sic], and urged her to seek medical evaluation,&quot;   which she did.    She dropped the lawsuit in 2008... odd I think if she really had a case.  Or was she just in it for the money?   

During her 2008 run for senate (did I mention she is the perennial candidate?)  her mortgage company sued her because she couldn&#039;t pay her rent.  her house was set to go to foreclosure but at the last minute she sold it to her legal-counsel-boyfriend.    Everyone is allowed some financial difficulty, but O&#039;Donnell lied about the whole thing, claiming she wasn&#039;t sued by her mortgage company when in fact she was.   

She claims she was accepted into a masters degree program at Princeton... but oops that turned out not to be true.      

Guys, this stuff goes on and on and on.   I could write more but it&#039;s past my bedtime.    If it was only one thing, we could write it off.  Everyone is allowed one quirk, and to get a few facts wrong.  But this stuff about her goes on and on, and there&#039;s more to come.  Worse, it&#039;s not ancient history but all quite recent.    

Just because someone is on our side ideologically doesn&#039;t mean we can sweep personal history under the rug, or say &quot;the Democrats do it too&quot; or whatever.  I&#039;m not going to support someone with ethical and character problems and I don&#039;t care how allegedly conservative they are.   

Finally, if you think I&#039;m tough on her you just wait until the Democrat opposition researchers get their claws into her.  More and more and more is going to come out, that much is painfully obvious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok kids, so you can&#8217;t follow links.   Unlike you I don&#8217;t have all day to type on blogs but I&#8217;ll humor you this time.   Here are a few tidbits</p>
<p>She used campaign funds to pay half her house rent</p>
<p>Her financial disclosure forms only show an earned income of $5,800 last year.    Hmmm.   A single person living on $5,800 ?????    When asked about it she said she actually made more but wouldn&#8217;t tell about it &#8211; clearly illegal to hide income need I remind everyone.   </p>
<p>She claims that her opponents follow her around &#8220;They’re following me. They follow me home at night.&#8221;  and &#8220;They’re hiding in the bushes when I’m at candidate forums.&#8221;   and &#8220;In 2008 they broke into my home. They vandalized my home. &#8221;  &#8211; but hey, she&#8217;s got no police report or even a third-party verification!  in other words, she&#8217;s got paranoid delusions.   </p>
<p>When Scott Rasmussen came out with a poll showing her behind, her campaign manager insinuated that Rasmussen had deliberately fudged the poll at the insistence of the RNC and NRSC.   </p>
<p>She claimed she won 2 of 3 counties in her last race&#8230;. but oops that turns out not to be true.    </p>
<p>She accused her opponent, Mike Castle, of being gay.   No proof or evidence, of course.   </p>
<p>One of her former campaign managers (did I mention that she&#8217;s a perennial candidate like Alan Keys?)  has come out and said that O&#8217;Donnell is a fake conservative and is only in it for the money.   </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s that $6.9 million lawsuit for &#8220;mental anguish&#8221; against the conservative non-profit Intercollegiate Studies Institute.   According to the complaint &#8220;Miss O&#8217;Donnell&#8217;s mother and sister both noticed and spontaneously told her at the time, prior to litigation, that she was differently [sic], and urged her to seek medical evaluation,&#8221;   which she did.    She dropped the lawsuit in 2008&#8230; odd I think if she really had a case.  Or was she just in it for the money?   </p>
<p>During her 2008 run for senate (did I mention she is the perennial candidate?)  her mortgage company sued her because she couldn&#8217;t pay her rent.  her house was set to go to foreclosure but at the last minute she sold it to her legal-counsel-boyfriend.    Everyone is allowed some financial difficulty, but O&#8217;Donnell lied about the whole thing, claiming she wasn&#8217;t sued by her mortgage company when in fact she was.   </p>
<p>She claims she was accepted into a masters degree program at Princeton&#8230; but oops that turned out not to be true.      </p>
<p>Guys, this stuff goes on and on and on.   I could write more but it&#8217;s past my bedtime.    If it was only one thing, we could write it off.  Everyone is allowed one quirk, and to get a few facts wrong.  But this stuff about her goes on and on, and there&#8217;s more to come.  Worse, it&#8217;s not ancient history but all quite recent.    </p>
<p>Just because someone is on our side ideologically doesn&#8217;t mean we can sweep personal history under the rug, or say &#8220;the Democrats do it too&#8221; or whatever.  I&#8217;m not going to support someone with ethical and character problems and I don&#8217;t care how allegedly conservative they are.   </p>
<p>Finally, if you think I&#8217;m tough on her you just wait until the Democrat opposition researchers get their claws into her.  More and more and more is going to come out, that much is painfully obvious.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 02:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just checked my earlier link again.  Looks like the trolls are out in force at her site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked my earlier link again.  Looks like the trolls are out in force at her site.</p>
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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/09/15/more-on-the-castle-defeat/#comment-186391</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 01:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I kicked in to O&#039;Donnell today too. This is the first year I have ever donated to political campaigns. Brown was the first. Then Rennacci. Then Palin. Now O&#039;Donnell.

It&#039;s a whole new ballgame. When she raised nearly $1m in one day, I know I musty be just one of several hundred thousands form all over the country. We, collectively, can do more for her than any Repub State or National Committee can do. The fact is that they are small change, and we are the big bucks.

Period.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kicked in to O&#8217;Donnell today too. This is the first year I have ever donated to political campaigns. Brown was the first. Then Rennacci. Then Palin. Now O&#8217;Donnell.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a whole new ballgame. When she raised nearly $1m in one day, I know I musty be just one of several hundred thousands form all over the country. We, collectively, can do more for her than any Repub State or National Committee can do. The fact is that they are small change, and we are the big bucks.</p>
<p>Period.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just kicked in $25, and also sent a link to this Karl Denninger post:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=165544&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;To The Tea Party (And Related Organizations)&lt;/a&gt;

I couldn&#039;t find an e-mail link on her website, so I posted it on the Discussion forum.  Here is the link to my comment:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teamchristine2010.com/forum/topics/campaign-advice&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Campaign Advice&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just kicked in $25, and also sent a link to this Karl Denninger post:  <a href="http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=165544" rel="nofollow">To The Tea Party (And Related Organizations)</a></p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t find an e-mail link on her website, so I posted it on the Discussion forum.  Here is the link to my comment:  <a href="http://www.teamchristine2010.com/forum/topics/campaign-advice" rel="nofollow">Campaign Advice</a></p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Baklava: please see the last half of &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2010/09/15/further-thoughts-on-castle-vs-odonnell/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava: please see the last half of <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2010/09/15/further-thoughts-on-castle-vs-odonnell/" rel="nofollow">this post</a>.</p>
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