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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/16/poor-boomers/#comment-179898</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I admit. 

I used to bash baby boomers.

As I&#039;ve grown and become more wise - I see generalizations in each generation :)

Ha!

But we are all individuals right? 

But let&#039;s agree to this... This country has gotten extremely generous with it&#039;s benefits...

There are hundreds of federal programs to help somebody who is poor. 

For goodness sakes - there are over 180 illiteracy programs. 

You&#039;d think that if somebody wanted to read - they would!!!

But you can lead a horse to water but you can&#039;t make him drink.

You can type words to a liberal but you cannot make him/her see the common sense (or error of their ways)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit. </p>
<p>I used to bash baby boomers.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve grown and become more wise &#8211; I see generalizations in each generation 🙂</p>
<p>Ha!</p>
<p>But we are all individuals right? </p>
<p>But let&#8217;s agree to this&#8230; This country has gotten extremely generous with it&#8217;s benefits&#8230;</p>
<p>There are hundreds of federal programs to help somebody who is poor. </p>
<p>For goodness sakes &#8211; there are over 180 illiteracy programs. </p>
<p>You&#8217;d think that if somebody wanted to read &#8211; they would!!!</p>
<p>But you can lead a horse to water but you can&#8217;t make him drink.</p>
<p>You can type words to a liberal but you cannot make him/her see the common sense (or error of their ways)</p>
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		By: Vieux Charles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/16/poor-boomers/#comment-179841</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is incorrect to categorize all baby-boomers as self-serving nihilists. 

That characterization only applies to the 30% who identify themselves as ideological liberal.

The rest of us have served and supported our country, our communities and our families faithfully.

Many of us have worked hard to raise children who will likely do the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is incorrect to categorize all baby-boomers as self-serving nihilists. </p>
<p>That characterization only applies to the 30% who identify themselves as ideological liberal.</p>
<p>The rest of us have served and supported our country, our communities and our families faithfully.</p>
<p>Many of us have worked hard to raise children who will likely do the same.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/16/poor-boomers/#comment-179677</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As for what happened with Social Security, that started during the LBJ administration. Hardly the boomers’ fault.&lt;/i&gt;

sure is... 

they had the largest mass of people who could have ended it in the most prosperous times of humankind. 

if they wouldnt end it who do you think should have? the way too small populations who cant amass enough votes to opposed the boomers? 

demographics... 

http://www.ssa.gov/history/chrono.html

take some time, go through it, and you will note if you go through the details, that the lid was blown off by the boomers who were way too large to ever collect

ESPECIALLY when they decided not to have kids, and so sealed the deal. 

that is, their failure to stop the program when they decided not to have kids that would fund it, would have been responsible.

but no.. they decided to accept welfare, accept enslaving the future to their wants, self exterminating their family lines, and tons of other things. like changed the school curriculum from what they had, to hide the history they didnt want known. 

look at this graph and tell me how anyone after them could change anything? 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S.BirthRate.1909.2003.png

Landon Jones, who coined the term &quot;baby boomer&quot; in his book Great Expectations: America and the Baby Boom Generation, defined the span of the baby-boom generation as extending from 1946 to 1964, when annual births declined below 4,000,000

add 18 years to 1946 and what do you get?

the summer of love and the destruction of the american state starts... 

at that point they started to bribe the people with their own money since these boomers tuned in turned on and dropped out of society. 

their CHOICE...   

Seventy-six million American children were born between 1945 and 1964

 &quot;almost from the time they were conceived, Boomers were dissected, analyzed, and pitched to by modern marketers, who reinforced a sense of generational distinctiveness.&quot;

Baby Boomers control over 80% of personal financial assets

[and how is everyone else with only 20% supposed to oppose the communist generation?]

more than 50% of discretionary spending power

 They are responsible for more than half of all consumer spending, buy 77% of all prescription drugs, 61% of OTC medication, and spend $500 million on vacations per year and 80% of all leisure travel

&lt;b&gt;One of the contributions made by the Boomer generation appears to be the expansion of individual freedom. Boomers often are associated with the civil rights movement, the feminist cause in the 1970s, gay rights, handicapped rights, and the right to privacy&lt;/b&gt;

yes, the boomers invited the subversionists in, made them warm and comfortable and we are now going to suffer their asinine choices in which they thought that they new more.. 

never trust anyone over 30
if it feels good, do it
tune in, turn on, drop out

and who made drugs and that culture normed? 
[and then who later to fix the problems they caused created civil forfieture, militarized police, and so on and so forth]

time to read history again in detail]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As for what happened with Social Security, that started during the LBJ administration. Hardly the boomers’ fault.</i></p>
<p>sure is&#8230; </p>
<p>they had the largest mass of people who could have ended it in the most prosperous times of humankind. </p>
<p>if they wouldnt end it who do you think should have? the way too small populations who cant amass enough votes to opposed the boomers? </p>
<p>demographics&#8230; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ssa.gov/history/chrono.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ssa.gov/history/chrono.html</a></p>
<p>take some time, go through it, and you will note if you go through the details, that the lid was blown off by the boomers who were way too large to ever collect</p>
<p>ESPECIALLY when they decided not to have kids, and so sealed the deal. </p>
<p>that is, their failure to stop the program when they decided not to have kids that would fund it, would have been responsible.</p>
<p>but no.. they decided to accept welfare, accept enslaving the future to their wants, self exterminating their family lines, and tons of other things. like changed the school curriculum from what they had, to hide the history they didnt want known. </p>
<p>look at this graph and tell me how anyone after them could change anything?<br />
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S.BirthRate.1909.2003.png</p>
<p>Landon Jones, who coined the term &#8220;baby boomer&#8221; in his book Great Expectations: America and the Baby Boom Generation, defined the span of the baby-boom generation as extending from 1946 to 1964, when annual births declined below 4,000,000</p>
<p>add 18 years to 1946 and what do you get?</p>
<p>the summer of love and the destruction of the american state starts&#8230; </p>
<p>at that point they started to bribe the people with their own money since these boomers tuned in turned on and dropped out of society. </p>
<p>their CHOICE&#8230;   </p>
<p>Seventy-six million American children were born between 1945 and 1964</p>
<p> &#8220;almost from the time they were conceived, Boomers were dissected, analyzed, and pitched to by modern marketers, who reinforced a sense of generational distinctiveness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Baby Boomers control over 80% of personal financial assets</p>
<p>[and how is everyone else with only 20% supposed to oppose the communist generation?]</p>
<p>more than 50% of discretionary spending power</p>
<p> They are responsible for more than half of all consumer spending, buy 77% of all prescription drugs, 61% of OTC medication, and spend $500 million on vacations per year and 80% of all leisure travel</p>
<p><b>One of the contributions made by the Boomer generation appears to be the expansion of individual freedom. Boomers often are associated with the civil rights movement, the feminist cause in the 1970s, gay rights, handicapped rights, and the right to privacy</b></p>
<p>yes, the boomers invited the subversionists in, made them warm and comfortable and we are now going to suffer their asinine choices in which they thought that they new more.. </p>
<p>never trust anyone over 30<br />
if it feels good, do it<br />
tune in, turn on, drop out</p>
<p>and who made drugs and that culture normed?<br />
[and then who later to fix the problems they caused created civil forfieture, militarized police, and so on and so forth]</p>
<p>time to read history again in detail</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/16/poor-boomers/#comment-179673</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[a current generation teaches the next, the future generations are not to blame if the generation in question taught them, lied to them, fixed the outcomes by other means, invented new curriculum, sealed the deal with politically correct thought dialectics, and colluded the end of the US as the ONLY way that women could be free from the oppression of being women as Lenin said... (but did not mean)

they all had other choices, they went with the bonobo herd version of future humanity and raced to the bottom..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a current generation teaches the next, the future generations are not to blame if the generation in question taught them, lied to them, fixed the outcomes by other means, invented new curriculum, sealed the deal with politically correct thought dialectics, and colluded the end of the US as the ONLY way that women could be free from the oppression of being women as Lenin said&#8230; (but did not mean)</p>
<p>they all had other choices, they went with the bonobo herd version of future humanity and raced to the bottom..</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/16/poor-boomers/#comment-179672</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;They are certainly a big part of the problem, but there’s plenty of blame to go around for other generations that came later, too, many of whom lived on credit they could not afford and whose whiz kid quants figured out clever mathematical ways to “prove” that none of the bills would ever come due.&lt;/i&gt;

nope... it was the boomers, period. they were and are the ones that erased the culture of their parents so that the people you mention that acme later had no such edumacation.

sorry.  
they are the generation that were mostly traitors.

it was they who decided communism was what and where to go, made it cool, fasionable, and facilitated it all. 

feminists being the leading vanguard... 
but i guess we would have to belive their writings the way we believe hitlers mein kampf. that is, after the fact and its all done we then get they were serious and that this is what women made (they certainly didnt stop it, oppose it, or even allow a open discussion without name calling, and tons of other things).

just cause the powerless turned out to have power doesnt mean they are absolved due to ignorance. 

life dont care, we dont get second chances, and they sold us down the river for a nothing and a dream they will never get. 

just readl lenin, marx, engels, and all those whom they quote...   and the progressives and others. 

after all, i remember the 60s when the loose hippy chicks were having sex to convert the guys. do you?  

sorry... the ones that did it did it... and no one gets a free ticket out for any reason unless they opposed it from day one...  

being duped is no excuse, this is life, its serious and   as a society we cant afford such idiots anyway. can we? 

i dont see anyone fighting against this other than some guys... the girls dont want it gone, they want to pretend they can talk it to a new form while the leaders use them. 

put it ALL together on the table at once and there is zero squirm room. only thing you hear are claims of no responsibility, which is keen since thats what the ideologues offered.  

turns out they were responsible, gullible, traitorous,  and more... 

if there is any history in 300 years they will not be remembered kindly, and if not, we will all be slaves disconnected in time with no begining, no end, just a permanent thing like a japanese feudal state where no one changes their born positions]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They are certainly a big part of the problem, but there’s plenty of blame to go around for other generations that came later, too, many of whom lived on credit they could not afford and whose whiz kid quants figured out clever mathematical ways to “prove” that none of the bills would ever come due.</i></p>
<p>nope&#8230; it was the boomers, period. they were and are the ones that erased the culture of their parents so that the people you mention that acme later had no such edumacation.</p>
<p>sorry.<br />
they are the generation that were mostly traitors.</p>
<p>it was they who decided communism was what and where to go, made it cool, fasionable, and facilitated it all. </p>
<p>feminists being the leading vanguard&#8230;<br />
but i guess we would have to belive their writings the way we believe hitlers mein kampf. that is, after the fact and its all done we then get they were serious and that this is what women made (they certainly didnt stop it, oppose it, or even allow a open discussion without name calling, and tons of other things).</p>
<p>just cause the powerless turned out to have power doesnt mean they are absolved due to ignorance. </p>
<p>life dont care, we dont get second chances, and they sold us down the river for a nothing and a dream they will never get. </p>
<p>just readl lenin, marx, engels, and all those whom they quote&#8230;   and the progressives and others. </p>
<p>after all, i remember the 60s when the loose hippy chicks were having sex to convert the guys. do you?  </p>
<p>sorry&#8230; the ones that did it did it&#8230; and no one gets a free ticket out for any reason unless they opposed it from day one&#8230;  </p>
<p>being duped is no excuse, this is life, its serious and   as a society we cant afford such idiots anyway. can we? </p>
<p>i dont see anyone fighting against this other than some guys&#8230; the girls dont want it gone, they want to pretend they can talk it to a new form while the leaders use them. </p>
<p>put it ALL together on the table at once and there is zero squirm room. only thing you hear are claims of no responsibility, which is keen since thats what the ideologues offered.  </p>
<p>turns out they were responsible, gullible, traitorous,  and more&#8230; </p>
<p>if there is any history in 300 years they will not be remembered kindly, and if not, we will all be slaves disconnected in time with no begining, no end, just a permanent thing like a japanese feudal state where no one changes their born positions</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/16/poor-boomers/#comment-179651</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[texexec: no problem---I hadn&#039;t made it completely clear that I was referring to his remarks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>texexec: no problem&#8212;I hadn&#8217;t made it completely clear that I was referring to his remarks.</p>
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		By: texexec		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 18:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Neo...I should have known you had your facts straight about Social Security.  I had just scanned Thomass&#039; comment and didn&#039;t catch the part about taking Social Security money out of the fund.

What was done during LBJ&#039;s tenure was very very bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Neo&#8230;I should have known you had your facts straight about Social Security.  I had just scanned Thomass&#8217; comment and didn&#8217;t catch the part about taking Social Security money out of the fund.</p>
<p>What was done during LBJ&#8217;s tenure was very very bad.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/16/poor-boomers/#comment-179571</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suspect theres never been a generation that would have played the cards dealt to baby boomers any differently. It is the preponderance of human nature to display seemingly courageous self discipline when it is imposed on you. It&#039;s also the preponderance of human nature to abandon it when it is not.

 The moral of the story....Work hard for prosperity and pray you never get there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect theres never been a generation that would have played the cards dealt to baby boomers any differently. It is the preponderance of human nature to display seemingly courageous self discipline when it is imposed on you. It&#8217;s also the preponderance of human nature to abandon it when it is not.</p>
<p> The moral of the story&#8230;.Work hard for prosperity and pray you never get there.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clearly, something happened, something associated with the Baby Boom, that caused massive resentments all around. Hence the bitterness on display in this circular firing squad.  

Though &lt;i&gt;technically&lt;/i&gt; a Boomer (born in 1960),  I share with many late Boomers an experience that is the inverse of texexec&#039;s: cohorts ahead of me clogging up organizations and pushing up prices.  I have no great affection for them as a group, and I suspect we will wait in vain for great leaders to emerge from among them.  Still, none of us ask to be born when we are.       

Perhaps we need to believe in a myth of the Lost Arcadia, a time of innocence when we were taken care of, a time of childhood.  And there is something perpetually childish about the story of the Baby Boomers in popular imagination, including their stories about themselves.  Maybe that&#039;s what Joni Mitchell (born 1943) meant:  &quot;And we&#039;ve got to get ourselves back to the garden.&quot;

Time to grow up.  There is a job of work to be done, and if we are going back to the garden, it had best be with shovels in our hands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, something happened, something associated with the Baby Boom, that caused massive resentments all around. Hence the bitterness on display in this circular firing squad.  </p>
<p>Though <i>technically</i> a Boomer (born in 1960),  I share with many late Boomers an experience that is the inverse of texexec&#8217;s: cohorts ahead of me clogging up organizations and pushing up prices.  I have no great affection for them as a group, and I suspect we will wait in vain for great leaders to emerge from among them.  Still, none of us ask to be born when we are.       </p>
<p>Perhaps we need to believe in a myth of the Lost Arcadia, a time of innocence when we were taken care of, a time of childhood.  And there is something perpetually childish about the story of the Baby Boomers in popular imagination, including their stories about themselves.  Maybe that&#8217;s what Joni Mitchell (born 1943) meant:  &#8220;And we&#8217;ve got to get ourselves back to the garden.&#8221;</p>
<p>Time to grow up.  There is a job of work to be done, and if we are going back to the garden, it had best be with shovels in our hands.</p>
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		By: JKB		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/16/poor-boomers/#comment-179409</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, first let&#039;s clarify.  One, I, a very late boomer spent the summer of love in a plastic pool in the back yard, not so drug induced delusion in upstate NY.  Second, if you check the birth dates of the losers who ran the &quot;revolution&quot;, say Abbie Hoffman, they weren&#039;t boomers but their older brothers and sisters born in the mid 1930s to early 1940s.  The early boomers were just children to be manipulated and many were very good at following the fool.  Third, the &quot;boomers&quot; whom everyone speaks of, were an annoying subset of early boomers.  Quiet a few of early boomers spent the summer of love in the mud but it had a southeast asian flavor.

In the end, the boomers are just a bubble that cracks the inherent flaws in the liberal fantasy economics.  That doesn&#039;t mean the the boomer productive years were distinctly lacking in infrastructure investment but also characterized by a major shift in US economics with the easing of world trade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, first let&#8217;s clarify.  One, I, a very late boomer spent the summer of love in a plastic pool in the back yard, not so drug induced delusion in upstate NY.  Second, if you check the birth dates of the losers who ran the &#8220;revolution&#8221;, say Abbie Hoffman, they weren&#8217;t boomers but their older brothers and sisters born in the mid 1930s to early 1940s.  The early boomers were just children to be manipulated and many were very good at following the fool.  Third, the &#8220;boomers&#8221; whom everyone speaks of, were an annoying subset of early boomers.  Quiet a few of early boomers spent the summer of love in the mud but it had a southeast asian flavor.</p>
<p>In the end, the boomers are just a bubble that cracks the inherent flaws in the liberal fantasy economics.  That doesn&#8217;t mean the the boomer productive years were distinctly lacking in infrastructure investment but also characterized by a major shift in US economics with the easing of world trade.</p>
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