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		By: Committee Offices &#8211; United States House of Representatives, 111th Congress, 2nd Session &#171; Momma Donna		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-182891</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Committee Offices &#8211; United States House of Representatives, 111th Congress, 2nd Session &#171; Momma Donna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175653</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Mc.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JEG,

It says that skin color was the most important thing to most of them. That&#039;s what it says.

When skin color is the most important thing about a person, we call that....?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JEG,</p>
<p>It says that skin color was the most important thing to most of them. That&#8217;s what it says.</p>
<p>When skin color is the most important thing about a person, we call that&#8230;.?</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175616</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[AVI, yes: Republicans are the wretched refuse of the earth.

Realistically, I suspect black politicians get a &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; more slack, for several reasons. 

First, people are leery of being accused of racism (hard to believe, I know, but sometimes people make such accusations). The transgressions have to be especially egregious to overcome that risk.

Second, and related to the first reason, going after a black malefactor is a great way to get Sharptoned. Even if you&#039;re right, and you win the legal battle, you lose the PR one.

Third, black politicians commonly get re-elected regardless of what they&#039;ve done (hello, Marion Berry!), and so launching an ethics probe against a black politico probably equates to generating a political enemy for life. It&#039;s a lower rent version of &quot;if you strike the king, you&#039;d better kill the king.&quot; The chances of, e.g., Rangel or Waters actually getting the boot are zero. The day after the hearings, and the mild admonishment they&#039;ll like receive, you&#039;ll need their cooperation in Congress. Good luck.

Fourth, there&#039;s the soft bigotry of low expectations. In candor, it is sad but true that because of the reasons cited above, people - white and black alike, I suspect - pretty much expect a substantial level of malfeasance from a black politician, just as they do from a machine one. 

I suspect that all of these factors together contribute to a perception of invulnerability that promotes progressively higher levels of misconduct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AVI, yes: Republicans are the wretched refuse of the earth.</p>
<p>Realistically, I suspect black politicians get a <i>lot</i> more slack, for several reasons. </p>
<p>First, people are leery of being accused of racism (hard to believe, I know, but sometimes people make such accusations). The transgressions have to be especially egregious to overcome that risk.</p>
<p>Second, and related to the first reason, going after a black malefactor is a great way to get Sharptoned. Even if you&#8217;re right, and you win the legal battle, you lose the PR one.</p>
<p>Third, black politicians commonly get re-elected regardless of what they&#8217;ve done (hello, Marion Berry!), and so launching an ethics probe against a black politico probably equates to generating a political enemy for life. It&#8217;s a lower rent version of &#8220;if you strike the king, you&#8217;d better kill the king.&#8221; The chances of, e.g., Rangel or Waters actually getting the boot are zero. The day after the hearings, and the mild admonishment they&#8217;ll like receive, you&#8217;ll need their cooperation in Congress. Good luck.</p>
<p>Fourth, there&#8217;s the soft bigotry of low expectations. In candor, it is sad but true that because of the reasons cited above, people &#8211; white and black alike, I suspect &#8211; pretty much expect a substantial level of malfeasance from a black politician, just as they do from a machine one. </p>
<p>I suspect that all of these factors together contribute to a perception of invulnerability that promotes progressively higher levels of misconduct.</p>
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		By: kaba		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175615</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with JuliB; ENOUGH of these accusations of racism already.

My wife is oriental. I&#039;ve got several hispanic in-laws. And two of my grandsons are black. A family reunion looks a little like a meeting of the UN. So take your accusations of racism and shove &#039;em where the sun don&#039;t shine!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with JuliB; ENOUGH of these accusations of racism already.</p>
<p>My wife is oriental. I&#8217;ve got several hispanic in-laws. And two of my grandsons are black. A family reunion looks a little like a meeting of the UN. So take your accusations of racism and shove &#8217;em where the sun don&#8217;t shine!</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175611</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assistant Village Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OB - no fair!  Republicans are a whole different category.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OB &#8211; no fair!  Republicans are a whole different category.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175604</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;There may indeed be other congressmen just as guilty who haven’t made it to the table because they cover their tracks better, or even, as suggested, because they have that little more forgiveness by their colleagues because they are white. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This will come as great news to Duke Cunningham.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There may indeed be other congressmen just as guilty who haven’t made it to the table because they cover their tracks better, or even, as suggested, because they have that little more forgiveness by their colleagues because they are white. </p></blockquote>
<p>This will come as great news to Duke Cunningham.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[here comes the fun stuff i predicted and have been trying to detail... 

&lt;i&gt;Chicago bomb technicians exploded a grenade found hanging from a light pole in Lincoln Park this morning, said police news affairs.  //  Officials weren’t originally sure if the grenade, which was hanging from a pole on the 1900 block of North Clifton Avenue  //  At 8:20 a.m. the Bomb and Arson Unit detonated the apparent grenade&lt;/i&gt;

the south americans have been using grenades... there are also caches...and los zetas have been paying for new recruits, sending them to mexico for insurgency training.  

unlike germany, there is nothing to prevent other external states from trying to take advantage of the situation, the progressives left out the baking soda... and have imagined being friends with people using them]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here comes the fun stuff i predicted and have been trying to detail&#8230; </p>
<p><i>Chicago bomb technicians exploded a grenade found hanging from a light pole in Lincoln Park this morning, said police news affairs.  //  Officials weren’t originally sure if the grenade, which was hanging from a pole on the 1900 block of North Clifton Avenue  //  At 8:20 a.m. the Bomb and Arson Unit detonated the apparent grenade</i></p>
<p>the south americans have been using grenades&#8230; there are also caches&#8230;and los zetas have been paying for new recruits, sending them to mexico for insurgency training.  </p>
<p>unlike germany, there is nothing to prevent other external states from trying to take advantage of the situation, the progressives left out the baking soda&#8230; and have imagined being friends with people using them</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JEG, it says they are righting wrongs. Which is curiously what the plantation owner in 1850 probably figured he was doing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JEG, it says they are righting wrongs. Which is curiously what the plantation owner in 1850 probably figured he was doing.</p>
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		By: JEG		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JEG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If over or under representation of a group is an indicator of racial bias, what does it say about the fact that 95% of African Americans voted for Obama?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If over or under representation of a group is an indicator of racial bias, what does it say about the fact that 95% of African Americans voted for Obama?</p>
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		By: suek		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/08/02/the-house-ethics-and-race/#comment-175590</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[suek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062;&#062;said one member of the Congressional Black Caucus, speaking on condition of anonymity.&#062;&#062;

Sounds like a perfect opportunity for someone to get information that would allow for investigation of Congressional members of the &quot;other&quot; color.  If these anonymous CBC members know someone who _should_ be investigated, but aren&#039;t - due to color or any other cause - why are they keeping mum about it?  If they _don&#039;t_ know any non-black members who _should_ be investigated, then they should keep their mouths shut...

In other words...they should put up or shut up.  

I sometimes think that the Dems welcome congressmen with &quot;problems&quot; so that they can hold their secrets over them to keep them quiet - why are these CBC members anonymous?  They should be shouting from the rooftops if there are equally guilty members who are getting a pass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;said one member of the Congressional Black Caucus, speaking on condition of anonymity.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Sounds like a perfect opportunity for someone to get information that would allow for investigation of Congressional members of the &#8220;other&#8221; color.  If these anonymous CBC members know someone who _should_ be investigated, but aren&#8217;t &#8211; due to color or any other cause &#8211; why are they keeping mum about it?  If they _don&#8217;t_ know any non-black members who _should_ be investigated, then they should keep their mouths shut&#8230;</p>
<p>In other words&#8230;they should put up or shut up.  </p>
<p>I sometimes think that the Dems welcome congressmen with &#8220;problems&#8221; so that they can hold their secrets over them to keep them quiet &#8211; why are these CBC members anonymous?  They should be shouting from the rooftops if there are equally guilty members who are getting a pass.</p>
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