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		By: jon baker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/injuction-on-arizona-immigration-law/#comment-175046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would bother me about the adults too.  Phooey! - I can&#039;t be hardnosed for very long!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would bother me about the adults too.  Phooey! &#8211; I can&#8217;t be hardnosed for very long!</p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok- Ok- it would bother me to see NYC surrounded and starved into submision- all those kids-but still- if you are so sure you can read the writng on the wall- why not act on it- and get out now?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok- Ok- it would bother me to see NYC surrounded and starved into submision- all those kids-but still- if you are so sure you can read the writng on the wall- why not act on it- and get out now?</p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/injuction-on-arizona-immigration-law/#comment-174792</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art-since you are soooo smart as you keep telling us- how is that you missed the two most obvious lessons in the last 25 years on surviving when the lights go out?   You know what I am talking about? Are you ready for it?  4 words.----&quot;Los Angeles &quot; and &quot;New Orleans&quot;

Yet last thing I saw you are still living in NYC.

Have you taken those lesson to heart?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art-since you are soooo smart as you keep telling us- how is that you missed the two most obvious lessons in the last 25 years on surviving when the lights go out?   You know what I am talking about? Are you ready for it?  4 words.&#8212;-&#8220;Los Angeles &#8221; and &#8220;New Orleans&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet last thing I saw you are still living in NYC.</p>
<p>Have you taken those lesson to heart?</p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/injuction-on-arizona-immigration-law/#comment-174783</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art said:
&quot;ny city has 8 million people, only a few entry and exit points, and 4 days of food. 

I would like to know what strategies and tactics you would employ given that you seem to be saying that you have actually thought through all this.&quot;

NY City votes for the commies almost every time-they are part of the reason we are in this mess- so it would be commies starving commies-whats your point? 

I would suggest you get out of the big cities-&quot;if you want to live&quot; .  I hope Sean Hannity, and you and the other conservatives figure that out ahead of time. If we really believe the writing on the wall- we ought to be stocking up on food and guns and ammo and meds-and many are.

The gangs only survive because the &#039;good guys&quot; are not actively fighting back.  In Mexico the honest are basically disarmend.  The police and military are partly on the gangs side due to corruption. When they make hits in the us- it is just that- mostly hits- and then they run away.  

As far as snipers?  We have those too.  Trick is to fight mostly in the woods. 

how does militia fight organzied armies?  hit- and run.  just keep wearing them down- death by a thousands little cuts-like the afghans did to the Russians- and may yet do to us.

didn&#039;t say it would be easy. Millions would die.

laser sights- like tracers- work both ways. Never seen much use for them on a hand held rifle.  High tech systems perhaps but we are talking militia here.

Why can you not get it through your thick-over read skull ART?  NY is not the US.!  The American people are not the russians. Have we grown fat? -yes.  But those millions of US military veterans are just that- Americans!  Maybe they are kinda few and far between in your neck of the woods-an insignificant fraction of the populace-but then you live in New York City! 

As far as the internal subversion of the constitution through a slow rate of change- thats hard to fight back against- that is what we face now- which is kinda the point of so many of these political blogs- we weep and mourn because so many of our fellow americans will not wake up to what is happening-or have been subverted themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art said:<br />
&#8220;ny city has 8 million people, only a few entry and exit points, and 4 days of food. </p>
<p>I would like to know what strategies and tactics you would employ given that you seem to be saying that you have actually thought through all this.&#8221;</p>
<p>NY City votes for the commies almost every time-they are part of the reason we are in this mess- so it would be commies starving commies-whats your point? </p>
<p>I would suggest you get out of the big cities-&#8220;if you want to live&#8221; .  I hope Sean Hannity, and you and the other conservatives figure that out ahead of time. If we really believe the writing on the wall- we ought to be stocking up on food and guns and ammo and meds-and many are.</p>
<p>The gangs only survive because the &#8216;good guys&#8221; are not actively fighting back.  In Mexico the honest are basically disarmend.  The police and military are partly on the gangs side due to corruption. When they make hits in the us- it is just that- mostly hits- and then they run away.  </p>
<p>As far as snipers?  We have those too.  Trick is to fight mostly in the woods. </p>
<p>how does militia fight organzied armies?  hit- and run.  just keep wearing them down- death by a thousands little cuts-like the afghans did to the Russians- and may yet do to us.</p>
<p>didn&#8217;t say it would be easy. Millions would die.</p>
<p>laser sights- like tracers- work both ways. Never seen much use for them on a hand held rifle.  High tech systems perhaps but we are talking militia here.</p>
<p>Why can you not get it through your thick-over read skull ART?  NY is not the US.!  The American people are not the russians. Have we grown fat? -yes.  But those millions of US military veterans are just that- Americans!  Maybe they are kinda few and far between in your neck of the woods-an insignificant fraction of the populace-but then you live in New York City! </p>
<p>As far as the internal subversion of the constitution through a slow rate of change- thats hard to fight back against- that is what we face now- which is kinda the point of so many of these political blogs- we weep and mourn because so many of our fellow americans will not wake up to what is happening-or have been subverted themselves.</p>
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		By: Indigo Red		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was quite disturbed by the news of the ruling, However, when I read the 36 pg decision (oh, dopey me!) I didn&#039;t care so much.

The first part that upsets folks the most is the policing the US border which may or may not be exclusively a Federal function; it&#039;s never been decided. However, the judge left intact Arizona&#039;s right to police who comes into the State from other States. States have the right to refuse entry to any person who has entered the US illegally through another state. If such persons are caught, presumably they must be removed to the State from which they came. The problem of the US/Mex border crossers then is that AZ cannot remove them to any State as they came from a sovereign country and, presumably, only the Feds can deport persons to a sovereign country.

The second is the new wording requiring state and local police officers to query the legal status of an individual stopped in the coarse of normal duties. However, the judge noted that police already have the legal discretionary duty to make such inquiries and let that stand.

Arizona well knew the law would receive extra scrutiny so added a severabilty clause so that when any portion were denied the remaining sections would be enforcable law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was quite disturbed by the news of the ruling, However, when I read the 36 pg decision (oh, dopey me!) I didn&#8217;t care so much.</p>
<p>The first part that upsets folks the most is the policing the US border which may or may not be exclusively a Federal function; it&#8217;s never been decided. However, the judge left intact Arizona&#8217;s right to police who comes into the State from other States. States have the right to refuse entry to any person who has entered the US illegally through another state. If such persons are caught, presumably they must be removed to the State from which they came. The problem of the US/Mex border crossers then is that AZ cannot remove them to any State as they came from a sovereign country and, presumably, only the Feds can deport persons to a sovereign country.</p>
<p>The second is the new wording requiring state and local police officers to query the legal status of an individual stopped in the coarse of normal duties. However, the judge noted that police already have the legal discretionary duty to make such inquiries and let that stand.</p>
<p>Arizona well knew the law would receive extra scrutiny so added a severabilty clause so that when any portion were denied the remaining sections would be enforcable law.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This in:
&quot;They were in the buffer zone,&quot; said MacKay, stressing that although the planes did not enter Canada&#039;s sovereign airspace, the bombers did come inside the 300 nautical mile zone that Canada claims. 
[but WELL within EMP zone]


Attempts by Russia to test Canadian airspace have been going on since 2007; military and intelligence analysts tell QMI Agency the frequency has been increasing since then, but one senior official described Wednesday&#039;s event as &quot;not the usual s--t.&quot; 


The TU-95 bomber, known as the Bear, is capable of carrying nuclear weapons and may have been loaded with warheads on this trip. One military analyst tells QMI Agency the Russians have been known to fly with nukes on board just to flex their muscle and prove to the world they are still a powerful country. 


this from 2007
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562438/RAF-jets-intercept-eight-Russian-bombers.html

This was the biggest deployment of Russian bombers to probe British air defences since the Cold War. Although the &#039;&#039;Bear&#039;&#039; is obsolescent, dating from the 1950s, Russia uses it for long-range reconnaissance missions, designed to test an opponent&#039;s reaction time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This in:<br />
&#8220;They were in the buffer zone,&#8221; said MacKay, stressing that although the planes did not enter Canada&#8217;s sovereign airspace, the bombers did come inside the 300 nautical mile zone that Canada claims.<br />
[but WELL within EMP zone]</p>
<p>Attempts by Russia to test Canadian airspace have been going on since 2007; military and intelligence analysts tell QMI Agency the frequency has been increasing since then, but one senior official described Wednesday&#8217;s event as &#8220;not the usual s&#8211;t.&#8221; </p>
<p>The TU-95 bomber, known as the Bear, is capable of carrying nuclear weapons and may have been loaded with warheads on this trip. One military analyst tells QMI Agency the Russians have been known to fly with nukes on board just to flex their muscle and prove to the world they are still a powerful country. </p>
<p>this from 2007<br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562438/RAF-jets-intercept-eight-Russian-bombers.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562438/RAF-jets-intercept-eight-Russian-bombers.html</a></p>
<p>This was the biggest deployment of Russian bombers to probe British air defences since the Cold War. Although the &#8221;Bear&#8221; is obsolescent, dating from the 1950s, Russia uses it for long-range reconnaissance missions, designed to test an opponent&#8217;s reaction time.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;We have been psychologically preparing for that day long before our fathers first allowed us to fire real rifles at age 8 or 9.&lt;/i&gt;

great! 

so whats your solution for anthrax given that they are now also in violation of biological warfare treaties? 

whats your tactic for no prisoners and dragunov sniper shooting from over a mile away

and finally, whats your solution if they just cordon off exit and entry points, and just keep everyone inside until they starve to death (as was done a few times before). 

ny city has 8 million people, only a few entry and exit points, and 4 days of food.  

I would like to know what strategies and tactics you would employ given that you seem to be saying that you have actually thought through all this. 

add an EMP to it all, and all cars, and pretty much all machines stop working.  cant use a laser sight if the laser don&#039;t work, can you?  

I will point out aht both russia and china have a HUGE undeveloped population that has no reliance at all on electronics or modern equipment. and so given any response, they can still function. 

we cant stop mexicans coming over the border (where the president said their best invention in the past 50 years was teh taco), cant be stopped

how are you going to stop the Zetas and others who have superior weapons, are more brutal, have experience. 

how you going to get the 95% rate of physically unfit for any service? 

as i said... our states desire to move us to a dictatorship of a proletariat bares us to other states. they disarm us, its like disarming israel or sweden, where each home has such weapons. 

they hold us down for them, they pin us down for externals too.   held down is held down. 

but let me know how you ramp up economy and production with a economically dysfunctional society? 

totalitarian force maybe? 
oh oh...  there is a good reason for such to come, and not a good reason not to have it. 

you just have to do a clear assessment and not care what your emotions or beliefs say, but just stick to the facts. its not a pretty site.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;Suppose you were tasked with bringing down a civilization, and your only weapon was language. Could you accomplish your goal? Quite clearly, the answer is yes. To defeat a civilization language suffices &lt;b&gt;if it can be used to divide man from women, parent from child, the owners of businesses from the employees, the state from the citizens, and God from the Church&lt;/b&gt;. 

This, of course, has been the pattern of Communist subversion for the better part of a century. And even though people imagine that Communism is dead, it is very much alive.  

 It is impossible to understand the Left without understanding the role of the Communist Party.  It is difficult to write about this subject, as most readers are not educated in the history or theory of Communism. They do not know Communist tactics, which rely on the use of language to distort meanings, to confuse and stupefy political speech and thought. As Communist generals have attested, the various &quot;active measures&quot; initiated by the Communist Party Soviet Union during the 1960s and 1970s, were not simply disinformation programs. The primary task was to plant ideas that would corrupt people&#039;s thinking, leading them down a variety of false paths. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;b&gt;&quot;What a difference between now and five years ago when we convened in Chicago!&quot; he exclaimed. &quot;At that time a Puerto Rican woman raised in the South Bronx didn&#039;t sit on the Supreme Court. Then the president didn&#039;t call for the abolition of nuclear weapons. Millions had no health care and no promise of it in the near future.... We weren&#039;t in a position to fight for a progressive agenda, but on the defensive. 
&lt;i&gt;The pendulum of power didn&#039;t yet tilt in favor of working people, people of color, women and their allies. And, an African American wasn&#039;t president.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

the last paragraph tells you who their army is (whether or not the army knows what they are fighting for or not!), Notice that women/race/gender/economics are THE army of the communist progressive left. If you supported any of these groups as the only answer to the problems rather than answers to problems without them, then you helped, you were a front line troop.  

you were the people that the others couldnt attack as they thought you were their fellow people..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We have been psychologically preparing for that day long before our fathers first allowed us to fire real rifles at age 8 or 9.</i></p>
<p>great! </p>
<p>so whats your solution for anthrax given that they are now also in violation of biological warfare treaties? </p>
<p>whats your tactic for no prisoners and dragunov sniper shooting from over a mile away</p>
<p>and finally, whats your solution if they just cordon off exit and entry points, and just keep everyone inside until they starve to death (as was done a few times before). </p>
<p>ny city has 8 million people, only a few entry and exit points, and 4 days of food.  </p>
<p>I would like to know what strategies and tactics you would employ given that you seem to be saying that you have actually thought through all this. </p>
<p>add an EMP to it all, and all cars, and pretty much all machines stop working.  cant use a laser sight if the laser don&#8217;t work, can you?  </p>
<p>I will point out aht both russia and china have a HUGE undeveloped population that has no reliance at all on electronics or modern equipment. and so given any response, they can still function. </p>
<p>we cant stop mexicans coming over the border (where the president said their best invention in the past 50 years was teh taco), cant be stopped</p>
<p>how are you going to stop the Zetas and others who have superior weapons, are more brutal, have experience. </p>
<p>how you going to get the 95% rate of physically unfit for any service? </p>
<p>as i said&#8230; our states desire to move us to a dictatorship of a proletariat bares us to other states. they disarm us, its like disarming israel or sweden, where each home has such weapons. </p>
<p>they hold us down for them, they pin us down for externals too.   held down is held down. </p>
<p>but let me know how you ramp up economy and production with a economically dysfunctional society? </p>
<p>totalitarian force maybe?<br />
oh oh&#8230;  there is a good reason for such to come, and not a good reason not to have it. </p>
<p>you just have to do a clear assessment and not care what your emotions or beliefs say, but just stick to the facts. its not a pretty site.  </p>
<blockquote><p>Suppose you were tasked with bringing down a civilization, and your only weapon was language. Could you accomplish your goal? Quite clearly, the answer is yes. To defeat a civilization language suffices <b>if it can be used to divide man from women, parent from child, the owners of businesses from the employees, the state from the citizens, and God from the Church</b>. </p>
<p>This, of course, has been the pattern of Communist subversion for the better part of a century. And even though people imagine that Communism is dead, it is very much alive.  </p>
<p> It is impossible to understand the Left without understanding the role of the Communist Party.  It is difficult to write about this subject, as most readers are not educated in the history or theory of Communism. They do not know Communist tactics, which rely on the use of language to distort meanings, to confuse and stupefy political speech and thought. As Communist generals have attested, the various &#8220;active measures&#8221; initiated by the Communist Party Soviet Union during the 1960s and 1970s, were not simply disinformation programs. The primary task was to plant ideas that would corrupt people&#8217;s thinking, leading them down a variety of false paths. </p></blockquote>
<p><b>&#8220;What a difference between now and five years ago when we convened in Chicago!&#8221; he exclaimed. &#8220;At that time a Puerto Rican woman raised in the South Bronx didn&#8217;t sit on the Supreme Court. Then the president didn&#8217;t call for the abolition of nuclear weapons. Millions had no health care and no promise of it in the near future&#8230;. We weren&#8217;t in a position to fight for a progressive agenda, but on the defensive.<br />
<i>The pendulum of power didn&#8217;t yet tilt in favor of working people, people of color, women and their allies. And, an African American wasn&#8217;t president.</i>&#8220;</b></p>
<p>the last paragraph tells you who their army is (whether or not the army knows what they are fighting for or not!), Notice that women/race/gender/economics are THE army of the communist progressive left. If you supported any of these groups as the only answer to the problems rather than answers to problems without them, then you helped, you were a front line troop.  </p>
<p>you were the people that the others couldnt attack as they thought you were their fellow people..</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Luckily when it goes to the Supreme Court we will have a &quot;wise Latina&quot; to make sure empathy is considered in the legal process.]]></description>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr said &quot;Russia would strike us (through another expendable state). at the very least it would grab property that was unprotected… &quot;

We could nothing about the nukes...

but if they sent troops- there are millions of us &quot;bitter clingers&quot; that would meet them in righteous battle.  We have been psychologically preparing for that day long before our fathers first allowed us to fire real rifles at age 8 or 9.

Screw the pc liberals-in many places in the US. the men teach their boys how to handle guns long before their tenth birthday.  And then many of those boys go off to the military as a rite of passage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr said &#8220;Russia would strike us (through another expendable state). at the very least it would grab property that was unprotected… &#8221;</p>
<p>We could nothing about the nukes&#8230;</p>
<p>but if they sent troops- there are millions of us &#8220;bitter clingers&#8221; that would meet them in righteous battle.  We have been psychologically preparing for that day long before our fathers first allowed us to fire real rifles at age 8 or 9.</p>
<p>Screw the pc liberals-in many places in the US. the men teach their boys how to handle guns long before their tenth birthday.  And then many of those boys go off to the military as a rite of passage.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i dont tell prophecies. 
i deal with facts. 

and facts delineate conditions... 

if conditions change, the facts do, and so does the potential outcome. 

that is, what i say is going to happen hinged on empirical points, history, and family experience. 

lets just say that when a neighbor starts stockpiling things that have only one purpose, they dont intend it as an exercise in boredom. 


by the way.. 
for those that were saying this isnt exactly like the nazi stuff...  do they remember tht the puppet master behind this (not whats behind him), was a nazi simithizer that learned what he knows about power control morals and such from the same people my family learned history from? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;KROFT: (Voiceover) To understand the complexities and contradictions in his personality, you have to go back to the very beginning: to Budapest, where George Soros was born 68 years ago to parents who were wealthy, well-educated and Jewish.

When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros&#039; father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, &lt;b&gt;George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.&lt;/b&gt;
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the rest sounds that what he learned from it was different than what my family learned. 

he doesn&#039;t know he is a sociopath... 

if he wasnt, he would not think that doing the samething to everyone in the world as revenge for not saving him, and his family, was the right answer. 

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KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. &lt;b&gt;I was 14 years old. And I would say that that&#039;s when my character was made.&lt;/b&gt;

KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: &lt;b&gt;That one should think ahead. One should understand and -- and anticipate events and when -- when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a -- a very personal experience of evil.&lt;/b&gt;

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That&#039;s right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that&#039;s -- &lt;b&gt;that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?&lt;/b&gt;

Mr. SOROS: Not -- &lt;b&gt;not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don&#039;t -- you don&#039;t see the connection. But it was -- it created no -- no problem at all.&lt;/b&gt;

KROFT: &lt;b&gt;No feeling of guilt?&lt;/b&gt;

Mr. SOROS: &lt;b&gt;No.&lt;/b&gt;

KROFT: For example that, &#039;I&#039;m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.&#039; None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c -- I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn&#039;t be there, because that was -- well, actually, &lt;b&gt;in a funny way, it&#039;s just like in markets -- that if I weren&#039;t there -- of course, I wasn&#039;t doing it, but somebody else would -- would -- would be taking it away anyhow&lt;/b&gt;. 

And it was the -- whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the -- I had no role in taking away that property. &lt;b&gt;So I had no sense of guilt. &lt;/b&gt;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont tell prophecies.<br />
i deal with facts. </p>
<p>and facts delineate conditions&#8230; </p>
<p>if conditions change, the facts do, and so does the potential outcome. </p>
<p>that is, what i say is going to happen hinged on empirical points, history, and family experience. </p>
<p>lets just say that when a neighbor starts stockpiling things that have only one purpose, they dont intend it as an exercise in boredom. </p>
<p>by the way..<br />
for those that were saying this isnt exactly like the nazi stuff&#8230;  do they remember tht the puppet master behind this (not whats behind him), was a nazi simithizer that learned what he knows about power control morals and such from the same people my family learned history from? </p>
<blockquote><p>KROFT: (Voiceover) To understand the complexities and contradictions in his personality, you have to go back to the very beginning: to Budapest, where George Soros was born 68 years ago to parents who were wealthy, well-educated and Jewish.</p>
<p>When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros&#8217; father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, <b>George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.</b>
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<p>the rest sounds that what he learned from it was different than what my family learned. </p>
<p>he doesn&#8217;t know he is a sociopath&#8230; </p>
<p>if he wasnt, he would not think that doing the samething to everyone in the world as revenge for not saving him, and his family, was the right answer. </p>
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KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.</p>
<p>Mr. SOROS: Right. <b>I was 14 years old. And I would say that that&#8217;s when my character was made.</b></p>
<p>KROFT: In what way?</p>
<p>Mr. SOROS: <b>That one should think ahead. One should understand and &#8212; and anticipate events and when &#8212; when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a &#8212; a very personal experience of evil.</b></p>
<p>KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.</p>
<p>Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.</p>
<p>KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.</p>
<p>Mr. SOROS: Yes. That&#8217;s right. Yes.</p>
<p>KROFT: I mean, that&#8217;s &#8212; <b>that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?</b></p>
<p>Mr. SOROS: Not &#8212; <b>not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don&#8217;t &#8212; you don&#8217;t see the connection. But it was &#8212; it created no &#8212; no problem at all.</b></p>
<p>KROFT: <b>No feeling of guilt?</b></p>
<p>Mr. SOROS: <b>No.</b></p>
<p>KROFT: For example that, &#8216;I&#8217;m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.&#8217; None of that?</p>
<p>Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c &#8212; I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn&#8217;t be there, because that was &#8212; well, actually, <b>in a funny way, it&#8217;s just like in markets &#8212; that if I weren&#8217;t there &#8212; of course, I wasn&#8217;t doing it, but somebody else would &#8212; would &#8212; would be taking it away anyhow</b>. </p>
<p>And it was the &#8212; whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the &#8212; I had no role in taking away that property. <b>So I had no sense of guilt. </b></p>
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