Comments on: How are Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice doing these days? https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/ A blog about political change, among other things Wed, 04 Aug 2010 22:39:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Don https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-175855 Wed, 04 Aug 2010 22:39:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-175855 I remember when B&C&T&A came out, though I’m sure I only saw the Mad Magazine version. It would be an interesting movie to review in these times. The concept and practice of polyamory has surged, and indeed a close friend of mine is discovering it now that her children are out of the house. If people want to claim it is just sluttery with a fancy name, they can, but when they do they denigrate experiences they cannot very well understand.

Of course it faded away going into the 70s because it had become fashionable, and many, probably most, people who tried it found it was not a good fit. This surely led to a popular backlash. Now that polyamory is more or less under the cultural radar (and hopefully no sexual identity ever will be fashionable again), and the practice has sprouted some hard, fast, and practical rules, people can gravitate to it or not as their true nature demands, with the natural expectation they will be respected for it.

]]> By: joeedh https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174355 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:44:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174355 I thought I’d comment. I think “full disclosure” makes sense–for some couples. It depends on the situation. Some people need that, others don’t, and it really just depends. Many women seem to look for protectors and strength in men, while a growing number of men now look for strong women.

1/5th of the population has what’s termed the “highly sensitive” personality type; emotional sensitivity (and, yes, needyness) isn’t limited to women, and neither is the corresponding male-stereotype insensitivity limited to males.

Personally, I think that your perceived power in society determines how you are attracted to people. If you feel net powerful, then you look for people who would contribute good genes; if you feel net unpowerful, you look for protectors and care more about emotional satisfaction. This seems to apply to both males and females, in my experience.

]]> By: Bilwick https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174258 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:09:08 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174258 Liked her in WEST SIDE STORY. She’s gotten some criticism for that role because she (a) was not a Latina and (c) she didn’t do her own singing; but neither of those bother me. I think she managed to look Hispanic “enough”–that is enough to be conmvincing–plus I used to live in Manhattan and I’ve seen PRs of all kinds of hues, hair colors, etc. As for the singing, I think it takes a certain kind of art to convincingly “sell” the song when you’re NOT actually singing it, and she accomplished that; as did co-star Richard Beymer. (In the anniversary edition DVD, by the way, there’s a clip of Ms. Wood as Maria doing her own singing (later dubbed over by Marni Nixon) and NW did a nice job with her own pipes. Aopparently it was felt her voice wasn’t strong enough for the big screen, but it was a good enough voice.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174244 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:43:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174244 Bilwik and IgotBupkis: I am a big Natalie Wood fan. B&C&T&A wasn’t one of her best movies, although she does fine in it. In my opinion, this was her best—and one of the best performances by a movie actress ever.

]]> By: IgotBupkis https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174236 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:11:01 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174236 Also, like Sela Ward, she was a woman who matured spectacularly well. I think she was still quite hot even into her forties.

]]> By: IgotBupkis https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174234 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:06:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174234 More

She just had eyes you could fall into

Here’s a huge Natalie Wood photo gallery

And another

As a guy, I think the thing about Natalie Wood is that she managed to be very sexy and very classy at the same time… not always an easy combination to pull off.

]]> By: IgotBupkis https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174231 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:02:48 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174231 > P.S. How do you “pleat” someone’s chest?

It’s a joke. The point is she wasn’t what you’d call “bosomy” by anyone’s reckoning.
:oP

I certainly had the hots for her and Jill St. John when I was thirteen, though. Needless to say, I considered Robert Wagner to be an impossibly lucky bastard.

P.S. Here’s a pub shot of her from ‘Gypsy’

And some more Gypsy photos

]]> By: Bilwick https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174221 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:39:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174221 Thanks for the photo, neo-neocon. I’ve got my screen saver for the week! “On the cusp” is the key phrase. I generally like my women with a little more meat on their bones, but I celebrate their “infinite variety,” and I think Ms. Wood looks pretty good there.

]]> By: I R A Darth Aggie https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174208 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:33:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174208 Full disclosure I assume includes telling your wife if that outfit makes her look fat.

That’s not true. The outfit doesn’t make her look fat.

Her fat makes her look fat.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174207 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:32:20 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/07/28/how-are-bob-and-carol-and-ted-and-alice-doing-these-days/#comment-174207 Bilwick: Here’s a photo. She looks pretty thin to me—on the cusp of being too thin but not quite over the line.

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