I am a Conservative old enough to remember Barry Goldwater and supported Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.

Because of this, it is impossible for me to support fake Conservatives such as George W. Bush, John McCain, or Mitt Romney.

Your observations about most liberals are unfortunately all too correct.

But it would seem to me that the rational course of action would be to become a Conservative not a neocon or a neo-neocon as you call it.

In fact, “changing” from a liberal to a neocon isn’t much of a change at all.

Despite what neocons say about themselves, they are actually a type of liberal. The fact that other liberals don’t like them doesn’t mean much. Various strains of liberals have always had difficulty getting along with other strains of liberals.

What unites liberals is their lack of understanding regarding private property institutions along with other social and political institutions, particularly constitutional institutions, and how those institutions come about.

It leads to ridiculous and tragic government policies in the domestic AND foreign policy arenas.

People who are willing to take off their partisan hats would realize that the President George W. Bush most emulated was Lyndon Johnson — a liberal.

In addition, his themes in foreign policy speeches contained talking points frequently stated by President Woodrow Wilson — a liberal.

And Bush/Rove tactics were just as divisive and condescending as liberal behavior.

And I think Assistant Village Idiot was right. They’re looking at your leaving as a betrayal of the “tribe”.

And especially now, and the eight years of G W have put them in a state of raw fear and survival. With Obama and their illusions getting bigger and bigger, the threat of “conservatives” “Tea Party” people, which you are now a part of, you are in the “enemy” tribe now.

At the risk of sounding New agey, you have to raise the relationship from the tribal root chakra up to the Heart Chakra. That is where you reach them, at the Heart. I am a rock ribbed conservative with a slew of Liberal friends, Many of them didn’t know I was conservative until the subject of politics came up. But we were already friends, and we genuinely loved each other already. And many of my friends know me as a fellow healing arts type. They know my heart, so they tolerate my politics. We don’t usually talk politics though.

Unless the relationship is too toxic, we may be meant to be with these people and visa versa. Whether you are Christian or not, I still think it’s a good idea to bless those who curse you, even if you decide not to stand there be a perpetual rug.

And I have converted a couple of my NYC Liberal girlfriends by the way. But I always spoke to every liberal with the intent of not taking anything personally, and without getting ugly.

everyone is telling me things from the perspective of the prey, and how these things are important.

i keep telling them that they are the prey, and that to the man in the restaurant their thoughts other than the ones that get them on his plate are quite irrelevant.

by being taught the perspective of meaningful pacifist victims, we don’t pound the predators out of existence as we did before.

like the feminists teaching us that a drunk partially incapacitated super model should be able to walk through a dark alley in a bad section of town two days after mass prison release.

yeah, that should be how it is when we start pretending we are god ourselves. but is that the way it is?

in a world were we don’t need to eat, maybe the rationalizations of what a prawn thinks and their verbal justifications for continued existence and meaning has meaning to assuage the diner.

but the bleating of a lamb is not something that makes a predator take notice and correct, but quite the opposite.

why you keep wanting me to think that what you think is important, is beyond me… as we are not trying to convince me of your sacred position as an individual in the world.

we are trying to convince ticks, fleas, gadflies, mosquitoes, and sharks, that we should not be on the menu even if we don’t defend ourselves, and lay down defenseless before them.

in the context of the parasite and predator thats dinner entertainment…

Let me put it another way. when society changed to a collective, your importance went from critical individual to cell in a body politic. you don’t agree, you dont get to tell the body where to go, you are not a brain cell… if you dont listen to the brain cells and replace your individual desires with theirs, then your a cancer.

so basically your arguments to them are like the arguments of a cancer trying to justify its existence..

and their arguments to you are.. how do we get it back to normal, put it into remission, or exterminate it to make a good body?

failure to see the context your in has changed, is failure to see that what worked before, when you were an important individual. before feminism changes the courts to unequal treatment for equal outcomes (ok who else did that?), you could argue some point of individual merit. after that, how could you? such merit was the refuge of the oppressor class, and so was no longer allowed as it was the argument of cancer in a body poltic.

now, you guys want to argue merit of ideas, when only one idea has merit ay more (communism)

you want to argue that what you say has some importance when the change changed that.

you want to imagine that you can have a new free state while keeping the oppositions army together and in control…

you are the prey, the target, the victim…

you are not important to anything or anyone but yourself…

so any kind of idea that stems from such a self important sense of validity no longer has meaning..

its context is gone, while the echo of the reflex remains.

that depends on the context of the system your workig under, and if your aware of that context.

if your in a society of individual freedom where the participants are equal before the law and so equal in stature going into a debate, i would agree with you.

but we are not that way, we are only that way in moral moementum of the past we gave up long ago, and no longer conserve the things that support it.

so, like obama, a leader of such, doesn’t really give a darn what you think as your thinking is going to change to what they want it to be.

you will eitehr listen to the feminists, some ariticles they wrote in collusion giving the illusion of validity through concordance, other women, womens study courses, black liberation, maybe your church, etc..

since most of us belong to the smaller groups vying for power, we forget to serve the larger groups we are all a menmber of.

so you cant be a feminist and an american, since they are antithetical. youc ant be a black liberationist and an american they are antithetical

they do not care what your ideas are, they only care that eventually they can align them (Gleichschaltung) with their goals and lock them into place.

shock you to unlock you
move you to a new plateau
then freeze you there preventing fall back

we have new names for it, that way when you search for it, you dont find the old stuff. and if someone like me tris to teach you, you already know all the answers that they gave as to why being a collectivist is free… (and not even realize your collectivism and your fealty to them).

why should obama learn economics of a system that wont exist when he is done? quaint history?

why do i care what you think if this is a collective, i am above you and you are a member?

how they think:
i only care until i can compel, then my mask comes off. until then, i care only in terms of keeping you on board and in terms of how your independent thinking can screw me up. promise that after X gets done we will get you your Y… etc… but the minute i have what i want, your going to find out the truth of it. i am like the serial killer, as i only need you in the van, not to actually believe and sign on. you only have to believe long enough and that’s easy compared to winning the debate in the real space.

your refusing to understand how to do things under a different set of time preferences, methods, ends, and so forth.

you keep telling me that you have to hit the nail with the hammer. i keep telling you its a screw, a nut and bolt, and so on… and you keep telling me hit it harder.

there is a big reason why i see whats coming and have said so inch by inch and why whats coming has not been prevented in any shape or form… as the processes methodologies are normalized to the point where it takes effort to oppose them.

ways of thinking
ways of thinking about things
ways of regardiog things
ways of how to come to a right pc judgment

its hard to stand alone with thye other individuals against the storm and say, we belong together because we are all different, not because we are the same.

we stand apart to work together and be greater as we accept that we all cant be captain and have a functional ship.

99% and more want to make their socially derived methods work when they wont.

until they decide to stop trying to jam a square peg into a round hole becuase they were taught its critical to do it that way, the change in thought and perspective will not happen.

like the dodo they will walk up to what will kill them and ratiuonalize the whole way..

like the girl, drunk, and high on feminism should s, who gets into a van with some bad men and women, will learn that her rationalizations are wrong.

in fact, all rationalizations are wrong by definition…
unless your a useful idiot and lumpen proletariat.

[by the way, this applies to all their groups in variations, not just feminists. feminists are the most massive and most progressive and situated groups. so would be the easiest to see if a perspective moved]

I am not limited as I have been solidly on target since before Obama was elected. So far it’s been people telling me I am wrong, and a clown, and they have been wrong. Give it time, you will find experience counts more than imagination.

The fact that you use such language means you’re a collectivist. I don’t care what your conscious says, as that’s not most of you anyway; I care what your subconscious shows as far as mental interaction and terminology.

Calling me a clown is a way to warn me back to a collective you think you belong to. You also think that you in the center of that collectives opinion, and so the others will side with your commiseration of hate masquerading as erudite debate.

I will assume you meant “on” not “as”.

the end is not as we think we sometimes envision. Often the blue drummers care more than the beach dreams. Real estate is not as much as a kitchen as a crisis, fully in front of us. I don’t speak as a stone-age guy, but as a new-age guy, orbiting professorially above the Austrailian outback.

You speak like a dandy…
I am not envisioning, I am discussing events, history, and how they led up to the conditions ripe for those who wish to do the unconscionable.

In general, those who call me clowns tend to be VERY ignorant… at least compared to me, and you can test me on it. usually no one can tell me I have my facts wrong (Though I do from time to time and am happy for corrections), and so the only thing they can do is either call me names, or attack my conclusions from those facts.

They tend to also compartmentalize that the long tract they are complaining about is the whole of my thought and that I am not leaving out huge amounts of other evidence. That is, they set a contradictory challenge for me that doesn’t exist for them as a means of playing with the game rules rather than be able to play the game with any competency within the rules.

Mostly this clown is here because without me the arguments and angles would all be the same, and you would not get an emotional jolt enough to want to write or answer or feel the need to participate. [What? did you think I thought I was special? That’s funny]

I have moved on to the rest of your writing..

I have determined that you actually don’t know what most of the words you use actually mean. You have a cargo cult mentality in which you loosely string words and terms together for their emotional content.

Your words have meaning the way a old 70s song does. Like putting roses, blood, snow, and horses together for effect. You think I am a clown because your cant understand what I am saying, and don’t like that the words and things don’t sound cool together.

You want Hanna has two mommies, and I give you historical tragedy

Save your job, save your marriage, but forfeit your future. Be a human being, active with dreams, in every environment. This is not an end, but a beginning. You can order a pizza, or reorder your life, the cell-site cares not. (It must be the electrons.)

Given a few years, some money, a few sycophantic followers, some help from the FSB, and some property, and you too can be like Jim Jones…

really?

then let me lead a group, i will use havelocks change agent techniques and i will make sure that everyone’s intentions become mine by the time we are finished.

why? because they are too busy being self important to protect themselves.