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		By: Roy Lofquist		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-173382</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Lofquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[2010 is the class of 2004 - strongly Republican. 2012 and 2014 are 2006 and 2008 respectively - strongly Democrat. I don&#039;t think that these Democrats are inclined to open their reelection efforts by falling on their swords to support policies that are strongly refudiated by the voters. It is already apparent that some (Nelson, Bayh and - I don&#039;t recall) are openly opposed to taxing &quot;the rich&quot;. Lame duck session? De nada.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2010 is the class of 2004 &#8211; strongly Republican. 2012 and 2014 are 2006 and 2008 respectively &#8211; strongly Democrat. I don&#8217;t think that these Democrats are inclined to open their reelection efforts by falling on their swords to support policies that are strongly refudiated by the voters. It is already apparent that some (Nelson, Bayh and &#8211; I don&#8217;t recall) are openly opposed to taxing &#8220;the rich&#8221;. Lame duck session? De nada.</p>
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		By: Borepatch		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-173247</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Borepatch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Democratic leadership knows about the fillibuster - they&#039;re old hands at it.  So there seem to only be two rational views:

1. This is nothing but red meat to their base, trying to preemptively bank the coals and keep the flames of the left smoldering.

2. They think that they can buy off enough Senators who lose their seats to break the fillibuster.  So the question is: who are these?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democratic leadership knows about the fillibuster &#8211; they&#8217;re old hands at it.  So there seem to only be two rational views:</p>
<p>1. This is nothing but red meat to their base, trying to preemptively bank the coals and keep the flames of the left smoldering.</p>
<p>2. They think that they can buy off enough Senators who lose their seats to break the fillibuster.  So the question is: who are these?</p>
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		By: Paul_In_Houston		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-172953</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul_In_Houston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had been considering such a post on my blog but others, &lt;i&gt;far&lt;/i&gt; more qualified, are beating me to it.

So, instead of posting a second-rate clone of their efforts, I hereby offer the title &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;Kamikazi Congress&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; to anyone who wants it.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been considering such a post on my blog but others, <i>far</i> more qualified, are beating me to it.</p>
<p>So, instead of posting a second-rate clone of their efforts, I hereby offer the title <i><b>&#8220;Kamikazi Congress&#8221;</b></i> to anyone who wants it.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		By: gs		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-172883</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No worries, betsy.  You seem like a reasonable sort--no personal attack in your comment, no attempt to bully me off the site--and afaic reasonable people can disagree.

Excuse that I don&#039;t respond to your points: it&#039;s late.  If the lame duck/impeachment comparison still seems relevant in coming days, I&#039;ll respond then.

However, I do note that Intrade.com&#039;s odds of a Republican House are only 55%.  If Obama opponents don&#039;t focus on the election and/or the GOP exercises its talent for pulling defeat from the jaws of victory, the lame duck scenario will be immaterial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries, betsy.  You seem like a reasonable sort&#8211;no personal attack in your comment, no attempt to bully me off the site&#8211;and afaic reasonable people can disagree.</p>
<p>Excuse that I don&#8217;t respond to your points: it&#8217;s late.  If the lame duck/impeachment comparison still seems relevant in coming days, I&#8217;ll respond then.</p>
<p>However, I do note that Intrade.com&#8217;s odds of a Republican House are only 55%.  If Obama opponents don&#8217;t focus on the election and/or the GOP exercises its talent for pulling defeat from the jaws of victory, the lame duck scenario will be immaterial.</p>
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		By: ELC		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-172846</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ELC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 02:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Duck hunting is popular in some regions, no?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duck hunting is popular in some regions, no?</p>
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		By: betsybounds		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-172826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[betsybounds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[gs,

I hate to disagree with you, really.  But--I think that the kind of lame duck scenario we&#039;re looking at is nothing like an alarmist distraction from the country&#039;s underlying problems.  It&#039;s very much part and parcel of them.  We&#039;re not talking about idle trivia, here.  We&#039;re talking about a continuation and expansion of the Democrats&#039; determination to govern against the will of the people of this great country--whose very founding principles, after all, embody &lt;i&gt;the consent of the governed.&lt;/i&gt; 

I think there is some significant difference between what we see going on now and what you refer to with respect to Clinton&#039;s impeachment at the hands of a lame duck congress.  That sorry episode was about Clinton and the congress, it was window dressing, it was a show.  The electorate didn&#039;t want it, but it wasn&#039;t about the fundamentals of how we will live. This is the real deal, buddy, this is about the structure and function of the country, and about who shall control it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gs,</p>
<p>I hate to disagree with you, really.  But&#8211;I think that the kind of lame duck scenario we&#8217;re looking at is nothing like an alarmist distraction from the country&#8217;s underlying problems.  It&#8217;s very much part and parcel of them.  We&#8217;re not talking about idle trivia, here.  We&#8217;re talking about a continuation and expansion of the Democrats&#8217; determination to govern against the will of the people of this great country&#8211;whose very founding principles, after all, embody <i>the consent of the governed.</i> </p>
<p>I think there is some significant difference between what we see going on now and what you refer to with respect to Clinton&#8217;s impeachment at the hands of a lame duck congress.  That sorry episode was about Clinton and the congress, it was window dressing, it was a show.  The electorate didn&#8217;t want it, but it wasn&#8217;t about the fundamentals of how we will live. This is the real deal, buddy, this is about the structure and function of the country, and about who shall control it.</p>
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		By: betsybounds		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-172820</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[betsybounds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, I think they are not, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, I think they are not, too.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-172811</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I dont know why, but he reminds me of the villian who could smell children from chitty chitty bang bang... 

anyway


Britain no longer has the cash to defend itself from every threat, says Liam Fox
Britain cannot afford to protect itself against all potential threats to its security, Liam Fox, the Defence Secretary, has warned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7905649/Britain-no-longer-has-the-cash-to-defend-itself-from-every-threat-says-Liam-Fox.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know why, but he reminds me of the villian who could smell children from chitty chitty bang bang&#8230; </p>
<p>anyway</p>
<p>Britain no longer has the cash to defend itself from every threat, says Liam Fox<br />
Britain cannot afford to protect itself against all potential threats to its security, Liam Fox, the Defence Secretary, has warned.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7905649/Britain-no-longer-has-the-cash-to-defend-itself-from-every-threat-says-Liam-Fox.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/7905649/Britain-no-longer-has-the-cash-to-defend-itself-from-every-threat-says-Liam-Fox.html</a></p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-172792</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;1. I’m inclined to believe that such an Attack of the Lame Ducks would force Scott Brown and the Maine Sisters into a defensive perimeter with the rest of the GOP and everything would be filibustered.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; gs

That&#039;s very likely plus there&#039;s this, 

&quot;There are now six unelected members of the U.S. Senate; they represent Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, New York, and West Virginia. The rules governing the seating of senators elected to replace appointed senators are left to the states in the 17th amendment. New York’s law specifies the date the new senator takes office as January 3, so Kirsten Gillibrand will still be a senator in a potential lame-duck session, regardless of the outcome of her election bid. The other five states, however, all have laws that indicate the election winners may be seated immediately following their election – &lt;i&gt;in time for the lame-duck session&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://article.nationalreview.com/438496/election-wins-can-stop-lame-duck-threat/phil-kerpen&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Election Wins Can Stop Lame-Duck Threat&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;1. I’m inclined to believe that such an Attack of the Lame Ducks would force Scott Brown and the Maine Sisters into a defensive perimeter with the rest of the GOP and everything would be filibustered.&#8221;</i> gs</p>
<p>That&#8217;s very likely plus there&#8217;s this, </p>
<p>&#8220;There are now six unelected members of the U.S. Senate; they represent Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, New York, and West Virginia. The rules governing the seating of senators elected to replace appointed senators are left to the states in the 17th amendment. New York’s law specifies the date the new senator takes office as January 3, so Kirsten Gillibrand will still be a senator in a potential lame-duck session, regardless of the outcome of her election bid. The other five states, however, all have laws that indicate the election winners may be seated immediately following their election – <i>in time for the lame-duck session</i>.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/438496/election-wins-can-stop-lame-duck-threat/phil-kerpen" rel="nofollow">Election Wins Can Stop Lame-Duck Threat</a></p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/23/beware-the-lame-duck-congress/#comment-172770</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[betsybounds: Krauthammer still thinks they&#039;re playing by the old rules.  I think they are not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>betsybounds: Krauthammer still thinks they&#8217;re playing by the old rules.  I think they are not.</p>
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