No sooner did I naviage away from here that I found an article today touching the very subject of Plato.

In the picture, he is the one on the left pointing up. Aristotle is on the right.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/liberty-or-tyranny/

You and I have fundamental disagreements: 1) over terminology – I say national socialist and/or fascist, you don’t; 2) over its use – I say use it, you say be careful.

1. If there is such a thing as a national socialist, then Obama is one. The people here who are saying he’s not a ‘nationalist’ and therefore cannot be a national socialist are being either ridiculous or stupid or juvenile. He owns the most powerful nation in history. He has more power than anyone in the world. He has taken major steps to nationalize assorted industries. He does effectively “own” companies. There is a story today how he was responsible for the closing of car dealerships. Did you hear that? The President of the United States made the call on car dealerships!

He doesn’t own them? Grow up and get serious man. It’s no time for a failure of nerve.

2. I am not playing by their rules anymore. I don’t like people who do. I don’t like their rules, or their game, or what they are doing. If they con the whole country, they won’t con me. If you agree to their rules, we lose and you are a hindrance not a help. Obama is a fascist. Obama is a national socialist (there is no other kind by the way). Obama is a communist. Obama is a statist; collectivist; totalitarian; tyrant. All of those terms are nearly synonymous. Same trunk, slightly different branches at best. The roots of that tree were described and advanced by Plato (The Republic) nearly 2500 years ago. That’s been the playbook ever since. This is not a mystery or a shock or an innovation. It’s as old as civilization. Don’t use those words? Don’t make me laugh. Get with the program dude.

his campaign was based on Riefenstahl…
his methods of taking control is a copy of then as much as can… (not an exact copy, that would be ridiculous, but alas, if not ridiculous, no one would believe it)

the method of designating the hated oppressor group using disparate impact is the same as the nazi

the ideolgy of the panthers, Cone, BNA (black national socialists), the BLA (black liberation army), and others IS fascist.

we will not know he is a communsit like stalin or mao, until AFTER the fascism stage… if he stops, then its fascism… if he keeps going and we own no property, then its communism.

thats our choice now…

as i said a long time ago, we were only arguing as to which kind of totalitarianism we are getting, not whether we wanted it in the first place.

the dialectic is similar to “when did you stop beating your wife”.. that is it skips over the question of whether you do, and forcing the argument to start after the conclusion.

neat eh.

i can tell you all kinds of tricks
i can tell you what other did to fight it.

ah well, i still haven’t gotten past the, imagination is better than experience point.

i can go down the list..

oh.. and THIS time the antisemitism is hidden inside a larger set.

if you get rid of all whites, what happens to the Jews?

a antisemitic version of “take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care of themselves”

[same kind of logic in abortion, and other progressive things reconstituted with a justification package]

you get rid of christians and whites, and you also get rid of prostestants, and jews, and so forth.

and obama is a liberation theology and social justice kind of guy (With stalinist freinds to help)

to say that he is not a nazi is to think that nazi was all about jews… that was a small part of it, but the jewish people made sure to blow that up wide, and so shrink the rest. and by doing, they fixed it to happen again!!!!!!!!!!!!

go see when action 14 came about (akton 14).
we just passed the equal to akton 4

[want to know whose idea it was to play focus and defocus games? i told you already… i showed you the start of PROGRESSIVE jewish religion… they are the jewish equivalent to the christian social justice liberation theology people. go read the lineage. even now they are crowing that obama is the greatest thing for isreal and all jews… i can show you articles]

and J Cones liberation theolgy which obama follows, or else how could he sit for 20 years ina liberation theology church?

cone points out that jesus is black, and so the white jews and later christians have to give up everything they own, and basically die to have collective redemtion for their murdering of the black Messiahs jesus.

[which to them would make a new messiah the second coming, no?]

social justice is why the africans and spanish will be abl to attack whites, and white businesses and such without prosecution (ergo DOJ). if you defend, your a racist. and following social justice (Care to search obamas speeches for the term), we get rid of the oppressor class which basically gets exterminated one way or another.

let me know if removing white christians, jews, and certain groups to give a certain race more room, isnt lebensraum.

so many dont know the terms.
any one yet look up Gleichschaltung

even after i put it up tons of times
mention it a lot
ask if any one read it
give a teaser for it

why learn what the germans and others learned who are using things against you.

your like the last airbender. born to know what you need to know… and magically enhanced that one doesnt need to know the game, the terms, the rules, the codes, but literally nothing…

oh, and since good always wins, and you think your good, why bother?

i shall find myself bounded by a nutshell and call myself a king of infinite space – hamlet

As for Obama being a 7 on the Fascist-Non Fascist Baklava Scale; I refer you to his actions regarding Honduras, his inaction regarding the Iranian protests, and his retention of Lloyd Wilson as FCC liaison.

You are right about Capitalism not being the opposite of fascism, that’s mixing economic systems with political ones. The scale needs refining, but be forgiving, it’s only two hours old.

http://www.slate.com/id/2260968/

It made me think of you guys and your talk about how evil big government is:

“The majority of Americans are wary of global trade, don’t trust free markets, and also think “the benefits from … Social Security or Medicare are worth the costs of those programs.” And when the sample is restricted to people who support the Tea Party movement? The number is still 62 percent.”

Interesting no?

This whole thing is completely ludicrous. As ludicrous as it was to call Bush a fascist. It is disappointing that so many intelligent people indulge in this nonsense.