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		By: edwhy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/16/palins-fine-but-not-for-president/#comment-172050</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who might it be? Bob Dole is too old to renominate, John McCain might not even be a Senator.  The Republicans have some dynamite  governors, young and dynamic, also good public speakers, a must in 2112. One expects the worst from the Establishment.  Here&#039;s hoping the Tea Parties have captured the grass roots from the ideologues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who might it be? Bob Dole is too old to renominate, John McCain might not even be a Senator.  The Republicans have some dynamite  governors, young and dynamic, also good public speakers, a must in 2112. One expects the worst from the Establishment.  Here&#8217;s hoping the Tea Parties have captured the grass roots from the ideologues.</p>
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		By: Steve P in La Crosse, Wis.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/16/palins-fine-but-not-for-president/#comment-172034</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve P in La Crosse, Wis.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree.  She wasn&#039;t ready for prime time in 2008, and since then she hasn&#039;t done much to bulk up her &lt;i&gt;gravitas&lt;/i&gt;.  It pains me to say it, but she hasn&#039;t successfully fought the left&#039;s smear campaign against her.  True believers on th right will support her, but not the general electorate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  She wasn&#8217;t ready for prime time in 2008, and since then she hasn&#8217;t done much to bulk up her <i>gravitas</i>.  It pains me to say it, but she hasn&#8217;t successfully fought the left&#8217;s smear campaign against her.  True believers on th right will support her, but not the general electorate.</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/16/palins-fine-but-not-for-president/#comment-171975</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IF, a big if, Sarah Palin runs in 2012, I&#039;m fairly sure she&#039;ll win the Rep. nomination.
And then the election, unless unemployment is down &quot;enough&quot; (under 7%? 6%?).

The big-gov&#039;t is OK establishment Reps don&#039;t like her.
The elite Reps don&#039;t like her.

The working class Reps mostly DO like her -- a LOT.

On the other hand, she might well throw he support behind some good governor, with the goal of being VP, and get most of the positives while avoiding the negatives.


In any case, she&#039;s helping to build, more than lead, a Tea Party movement of Conservatives, and that is what will help save the USA.

There is even an argument to be made that she runs, and loses, in 2012, which results in more Reps winning in Congress.

The media focus on the Prez has been hiding the real power of the active Dem Big Gov&#039;t solving all problems, with the passive Reps wanting better, more market friendly Big Gov&#039;t to solve those problems -- but neither really wanting the voters to have individual responsibility for their own problems.

I&#039;d much rather have a majority Conservative, small-gov&#039;t Congress, with Obama, than another big-gov&#039;t Rep Congress with a Rep Prez.

Neo, I suggest you laugh at and mock your friends about their opposition to Palin, in using Palin&#039;s words to criticize Obama.  Then, when they defend Obama, make the issue Obama&#039;s policies ... which are failures.  Only when your friends admit that the policies have failed can you finish, again, with a note that Palin nailed the failure.  ... too much work.
(I have no friends like this, any more; well, they don&#039;t talk politics, anyway.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF, a big if, Sarah Palin runs in 2012, I&#8217;m fairly sure she&#8217;ll win the Rep. nomination.<br />
And then the election, unless unemployment is down &#8220;enough&#8221; (under 7%? 6%?).</p>
<p>The big-gov&#8217;t is OK establishment Reps don&#8217;t like her.<br />
The elite Reps don&#8217;t like her.</p>
<p>The working class Reps mostly DO like her &#8212; a LOT.</p>
<p>On the other hand, she might well throw he support behind some good governor, with the goal of being VP, and get most of the positives while avoiding the negatives.</p>
<p>In any case, she&#8217;s helping to build, more than lead, a Tea Party movement of Conservatives, and that is what will help save the USA.</p>
<p>There is even an argument to be made that she runs, and loses, in 2012, which results in more Reps winning in Congress.</p>
<p>The media focus on the Prez has been hiding the real power of the active Dem Big Gov&#8217;t solving all problems, with the passive Reps wanting better, more market friendly Big Gov&#8217;t to solve those problems &#8212; but neither really wanting the voters to have individual responsibility for their own problems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d much rather have a majority Conservative, small-gov&#8217;t Congress, with Obama, than another big-gov&#8217;t Rep Congress with a Rep Prez.</p>
<p>Neo, I suggest you laugh at and mock your friends about their opposition to Palin, in using Palin&#8217;s words to criticize Obama.  Then, when they defend Obama, make the issue Obama&#8217;s policies &#8230; which are failures.  Only when your friends admit that the policies have failed can you finish, again, with a note that Palin nailed the failure.  &#8230; too much work.<br />
(I have no friends like this, any more; well, they don&#8217;t talk politics, anyway.)</p>
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		By: Mike Mc.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/16/palins-fine-but-not-for-president/#comment-171946</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Mc.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather go down with Palin than win with a wimp. The victory wouldn&#039;t hold. She will campaign on the right things. She will do it forcefully. There will be a great deal of clarity with respect to the choice America is offered. Then it is win or lose. 

If she loses on the issues I know she will campaign on, then America is already over and it wouldn&#039;t matter if one of the pretty guys got in. Huckabee? Romney? Pawlenty? Someone else? Who are they? Nothing is what. They&#039;ve been practicing their cool and focus grouping while Palin has been actually out in the field fighting.

If she wins, she&#039;ll govern on what she campaigned on. That&#039;s a given. Also a given is that she will pick good people. Also a given is that she will sign repeals of all the Obama/Progressive Tyranny. Also a given is that she will know who our friends are, and who our enemies are, and act accordingly. Another is that she will allow American business and creativity and entrepreneurship to do what it does and begin to make jobs by the millions.

In short, she will almost certainly make America a better place after her Presidency. 

Obama is the great destroyer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather go down with Palin than win with a wimp. The victory wouldn&#8217;t hold. She will campaign on the right things. She will do it forcefully. There will be a great deal of clarity with respect to the choice America is offered. Then it is win or lose. </p>
<p>If she loses on the issues I know she will campaign on, then America is already over and it wouldn&#8217;t matter if one of the pretty guys got in. Huckabee? Romney? Pawlenty? Someone else? Who are they? Nothing is what. They&#8217;ve been practicing their cool and focus grouping while Palin has been actually out in the field fighting.</p>
<p>If she wins, she&#8217;ll govern on what she campaigned on. That&#8217;s a given. Also a given is that she will pick good people. Also a given is that she will sign repeals of all the Obama/Progressive Tyranny. Also a given is that she will know who our friends are, and who our enemies are, and act accordingly. Another is that she will allow American business and creativity and entrepreneurship to do what it does and begin to make jobs by the millions.</p>
<p>In short, she will almost certainly make America a better place after her Presidency. </p>
<p>Obama is the great destroyer.</p>
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		By: RickZ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, rickl.  I owe you email.

Yep.  Having Palin as the Presidential cadidate is worth it for the debates alone.  She&#039;d clean his commie clock.  He has no command of facts and figures at hand, or, if he does, they are manufactured in his mind (one of the few sectors of manufacturing left here in the US).  He cannot handle criticism or being called out on his interpretation of events, like how the stimulus worked (or how his work with ACORN and suing a bank to force more risky minority loans, and the Dems overall love of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and their obstinate refusal to enact oversight, helped bring about the timely housing bubble crash of &#039;08, which actually helped Obama, a crisis which most certainly did not go to waste).  Instead, they both are given more free reign to help debase and ruin our economy further.  And, gosh, what would an Obama appearance be without The Obama Finger.  He&#039;s gotten away with that trick so many times now it&#039;s not even funny.

Yeah, I want Palin just for those debates.  Definitely worth the price of admission.  Palin is somebody unafraid to call him out, to make him shrill, to show him to be the unknowledgeable @ss he is, even about the bills he signs into law.  During his campaign, McCain being a wuss and not going after Obama pissed me off.  I said it then that McCain could not see that Obama believed in the very ideology that those who tortured him all those years ago in Hanoi believed.  Obama is no socialist.  Palin understands this.  Watching Palin dismantle Obama in public would be must-see tv.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, rickl.  I owe you email.</p>
<p>Yep.  Having Palin as the Presidential cadidate is worth it for the debates alone.  She&#8217;d clean his commie clock.  He has no command of facts and figures at hand, or, if he does, they are manufactured in his mind (one of the few sectors of manufacturing left here in the US).  He cannot handle criticism or being called out on his interpretation of events, like how the stimulus worked (or how his work with ACORN and suing a bank to force more risky minority loans, and the Dems overall love of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and their obstinate refusal to enact oversight, helped bring about the timely housing bubble crash of &#8217;08, which actually helped Obama, a crisis which most certainly did not go to waste).  Instead, they both are given more free reign to help debase and ruin our economy further.  And, gosh, what would an Obama appearance be without The Obama Finger.  He&#8217;s gotten away with that trick so many times now it&#8217;s not even funny.</p>
<p>Yeah, I want Palin just for those debates.  Definitely worth the price of admission.  Palin is somebody unafraid to call him out, to make him shrill, to show him to be the unknowledgeable @ss he is, even about the bills he signs into law.  During his campaign, McCain being a wuss and not going after Obama pissed me off.  I said it then that McCain could not see that Obama believed in the very ideology that those who tortured him all those years ago in Hanoi believed.  Obama is no socialist.  Palin understands this.  Watching Palin dismantle Obama in public would be must-see tv.</p>
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		By: grackle		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/16/palins-fine-but-not-for-president/#comment-171848</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Curtis, I want to be clear that I believe your idea of a long term strategy to try to correct the skewed national culture and education system is definitely something that will need to be done. 

But it’s taken a long time for the Progressives to become dominant in those spheres and a correction toward more positive directions will be a long fight — the Progressive themes and addle-headed assumptions are embedded so deeply that they have become the conventional wisdom of our time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis, I want to be clear that I believe your idea of a long term strategy to try to correct the skewed national culture and education system is definitely something that will need to be done. </p>
<p>But it’s taken a long time for the Progressives to become dominant in those spheres and a correction toward more positive directions will be a long fight — the Progressive themes and addle-headed assumptions are embedded so deeply that they have become the conventional wisdom of our time.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the thoughtful reply.  I was raised with the Bible prophecy milieu of David Wilkinson and Hal Lindsay. Your account coincides with theirs in that America, if Obama gets re-elected, is not represented, it seems, in the last days. 

Perhaps I am being motivated more than I know by a wish that &quot;it&quot; is not here, an &quot;it&quot; I have instinctively believed in far more than most. I cannot find a good argument against it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughtful reply.  I was raised with the Bible prophecy milieu of David Wilkinson and Hal Lindsay. Your account coincides with theirs in that America, if Obama gets re-elected, is not represented, it seems, in the last days. </p>
<p>Perhaps I am being motivated more than I know by a wish that &#8220;it&#8221; is not here, an &#8220;it&#8221; I have instinctively believed in far more than most. I cannot find a good argument against it.</p>
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		By: grackle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grackle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;grackle: Do you really think so? Is “America” finished if Obama gets another four years?&lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps not “finished”(the commentor’s word, not mine) but surely severely damaged. A “long term strategy” is fine and recapturing the American educational and cultural spheres, which have been deteriorating for perhaps a hundred years, is certainly an admirable long term strategy but the problem we have now is comparatively short term: how to defeat Obama in 2012. One of my favorite pundits, Charles Krauthammer, in a recent article: 

&lt;i&gt;Act One is over. The stimulus, Obamacare, financial reform have exhausted his&lt;/i&gt;[Obama’s]&lt;i&gt; first-term mandate. It will bear no more heavy lifting. And the Democrats will pay the price for ideological overreaching by losing one or both houses, whether de facto or de jure. The rest of the first term will be spent consolidating these gains (writing the regulations, for example) and preparing for Act Two.

The next burst of ideological energy -- massive regulation of the energy economy, federalizing higher education and &quot;comprehensive&quot; immigration reform (i.e., amnesty) -- will require a second mandate, meaning reelection in 2012.&lt;/i&gt;

The entire article is well worth reading: http://tinyurl.com/279ovs

If higher education is federalized, taking over some local school boards is not going to matter all that much. If amnesty for several million new Democrat voters is accomplished the school boards will be the least of our worries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>grackle: Do you really think so? Is “America” finished if Obama gets another four years?</i></p>
<p>Perhaps not “finished”(the commentor’s word, not mine) but surely severely damaged. A “long term strategy” is fine and recapturing the American educational and cultural spheres, which have been deteriorating for perhaps a hundred years, is certainly an admirable long term strategy but the problem we have now is comparatively short term: how to defeat Obama in 2012. One of my favorite pundits, Charles Krauthammer, in a recent article: </p>
<p><i>Act One is over. The stimulus, Obamacare, financial reform have exhausted his</i>[Obama’s]<i> first-term mandate. It will bear no more heavy lifting. And the Democrats will pay the price for ideological overreaching by losing one or both houses, whether de facto or de jure. The rest of the first term will be spent consolidating these gains (writing the regulations, for example) and preparing for Act Two.</p>
<p>The next burst of ideological energy &#8212; massive regulation of the energy economy, federalizing higher education and &#8220;comprehensive&#8221; immigration reform (i.e., amnesty) &#8212; will require a second mandate, meaning reelection in 2012.</i></p>
<p>The entire article is well worth reading: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/279ovs" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/279ovs</a></p>
<p>If higher education is federalized, taking over some local school boards is not going to matter all that much. If amnesty for several million new Democrat voters is accomplished the school boards will be the least of our worries.</p>
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		By: Promethea		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BTW, if one watches &quot;Dirty Jobs,&quot; the &quot;Deadliest Catch,&quot; and similar shows, one soon learns that Sarah Palin&#039;s accent is far more common in the northern/midwestern states than the phony tones of the NPR set. And most TV announcers in Chicago don&#039;t even know how to pronounce the name of our fine city. How stupid is that?!?!

(For those of you who are embarrassed to admit that you don&#039;t know how to pronounce &quot;Chicago,&quot; it&#039;s Chi caw&#039;go. The first syllable is really a schwa, but I&#039;m too lazy to find out how to show that symbol--an upside-down e.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, if one watches &#8220;Dirty Jobs,&#8221; the &#8220;Deadliest Catch,&#8221; and similar shows, one soon learns that Sarah Palin&#8217;s accent is far more common in the northern/midwestern states than the phony tones of the NPR set. And most TV announcers in Chicago don&#8217;t even know how to pronounce the name of our fine city. How stupid is that?!?!</p>
<p>(For those of you who are embarrassed to admit that you don&#8217;t know how to pronounce &#8220;Chicago,&#8221; it&#8217;s Chi caw&#8217;go. The first syllable is really a schwa, but I&#8217;m too lazy to find out how to show that symbol&#8211;an upside-down e.)</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[grackle:  Do you really think so? Is &quot;America&quot; finished if Obama gets another four years?

I really don&#039;t thinks so. But I don&#039;t want to have to find out. If Palin is the candidate with the best chance of winning, yeah, she should definitely run and I would be very happy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grackle:  Do you really think so? Is &#8220;America&#8221; finished if Obama gets another four years?</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t thinks so. But I don&#8217;t want to have to find out. If Palin is the candidate with the best chance of winning, yeah, she should definitely run and I would be very happy.</p>
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