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		By: NBC Reporter Discovers New Immigration Law Causing Illegals to Leave Arizona &#124; MorallyRight.org		</title>
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		By: suek		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/06/obama-administration-will-sue-arizona-over-immigration-policy/#comment-170467</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[suek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062;&#062;So if an AZ highway patrol officer encountered evidence that someone had committed, say, espionage, or plotting to assassinate the President (each of which, I assume, is a Federal but not a state crime), he should not report it to the Feds?

That’s hard to believe.&#062;&#062;

But _so_ tempting...!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;So if an AZ highway patrol officer encountered evidence that someone had committed, say, espionage, or plotting to assassinate the President (each of which, I assume, is a Federal but not a state crime), he should not report it to the Feds?</p>
<p>That’s hard to believe.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>But _so_ tempting&#8230;!</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/06/obama-administration-will-sue-arizona-over-immigration-policy/#comment-170300</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;[and when the crap hits the fan, do you think that the feminists will let us have pin up pictures to get us to fight for them? yeah… we will fight and save the world for her 3.bp.blogspot.com/_uy9QWMOL7QI/SDWdVOyrJWI/AAAAAAAADF8/-nOe6XLs3TE/s1600-h/dworkin_ugly.jpg ]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe, like Stalin&#039;s police battalions, they&#039;ll put Dworkin and Kagan pinups &lt;i&gt;behind&lt;/i&gt; us. That would certainly make me charge towards the enemy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>[and when the crap hits the fan, do you think that the feminists will let us have pin up pictures to get us to fight for them? yeah… we will fight and save the world for her 3.bp.blogspot.com/_uy9QWMOL7QI/SDWdVOyrJWI/AAAAAAAADF8/-nOe6XLs3TE/s1600-h/dworkin_ugly.jpg ]</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe, like Stalin&#8217;s police battalions, they&#8217;ll put Dworkin and Kagan pinups <i>behind</i> us. That would certainly make me charge towards the enemy.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/06/obama-administration-will-sue-arizona-over-immigration-policy/#comment-170299</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’ve never understood why some political group didn’t decide to crack down on illegals yet really open up the legal immigration from Mexico&lt;/i&gt;

because to be fair, we limit immigration to a certain number from each country and its the same. 

if they did as you said, they would either have to raise the number for every country...   or find some way to claim it legal to favor Mexicans... 

the reason they are doing it the way they are doing it, is that with a cap of 50k a year...  they can only bring in half a million mexicans a decade. 

but with their open borders BS, they can bet 10 million in a decade, and then have so many as to make us have to act like stalin in order to fix it. 

since we wont act that way, we in effect are weakened by actions that their system would never allow and can handle. 

&lt;b&gt;our failure is their proof&lt;/b&gt;

proof of what? 

that under survival of the fittest as a whole, the fittest are not the smart ones that can make gew gaws and super weapons and technology the problems. 

the one that is fittest fixes a bridle to those and gives them oats and limits them preserving their familial positions. (in the game of king of the hill, there is no winner, just player that occupy the hill longer than others). 

so in essence, our letting the soviets and progressives win, proves that they are right and that our system should fail. 

a system that was superior would never let itself be put in these corners to solve problems it should never have. 

how comfortable the people are before eradication doesn&#039;t really have a value as superior, does it 

[and when the crap hits the fan, do you think that the feminists will let us have pin up pictures to get us to fight for them?  yeah...  we will fight and save the world for her 3.bp.blogspot.com/_uy9QWMOL7QI/SDWdVOyrJWI/AAAAAAAADF8/-nOe6XLs3TE/s1600-h/dworkin_ugly.jpg ]

so far we are not thinking about external acts. 

Obama may think that things are planned, but he hasn&#039;t realized that once we are weak enough for him to do what he wants in any way he wants, we will be so weak that Russia and china and others will do what they want with obama and who will obama call to save him and his prize? he had disarmed them from saving him too. 

The socialists, or rather to use Occams latin skew, the Sinister tempted Eve against Adam.. 

and now, mankind will be thrown out of the lastest garden.  and the gods of Olympia will live there. just as they did in the great palace... and other places.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve never understood why some political group didn’t decide to crack down on illegals yet really open up the legal immigration from Mexico</i></p>
<p>because to be fair, we limit immigration to a certain number from each country and its the same. </p>
<p>if they did as you said, they would either have to raise the number for every country&#8230;   or find some way to claim it legal to favor Mexicans&#8230; </p>
<p>the reason they are doing it the way they are doing it, is that with a cap of 50k a year&#8230;  they can only bring in half a million mexicans a decade. </p>
<p>but with their open borders BS, they can bet 10 million in a decade, and then have so many as to make us have to act like stalin in order to fix it. </p>
<p>since we wont act that way, we in effect are weakened by actions that their system would never allow and can handle. </p>
<p><b>our failure is their proof</b></p>
<p>proof of what? </p>
<p>that under survival of the fittest as a whole, the fittest are not the smart ones that can make gew gaws and super weapons and technology the problems. </p>
<p>the one that is fittest fixes a bridle to those and gives them oats and limits them preserving their familial positions. (in the game of king of the hill, there is no winner, just player that occupy the hill longer than others). </p>
<p>so in essence, our letting the soviets and progressives win, proves that they are right and that our system should fail. </p>
<p>a system that was superior would never let itself be put in these corners to solve problems it should never have. </p>
<p>how comfortable the people are before eradication doesn&#8217;t really have a value as superior, does it </p>
<p>[and when the crap hits the fan, do you think that the feminists will let us have pin up pictures to get us to fight for them?  yeah&#8230;  we will fight and save the world for her 3.bp.blogspot.com/_uy9QWMOL7QI/SDWdVOyrJWI/AAAAAAAADF8/-nOe6XLs3TE/s1600-h/dworkin_ugly.jpg ]</p>
<p>so far we are not thinking about external acts. </p>
<p>Obama may think that things are planned, but he hasn&#8217;t realized that once we are weak enough for him to do what he wants in any way he wants, we will be so weak that Russia and china and others will do what they want with obama and who will obama call to save him and his prize? he had disarmed them from saving him too. </p>
<p>The socialists, or rather to use Occams latin skew, the Sinister tempted Eve against Adam.. </p>
<p>and now, mankind will be thrown out of the lastest garden.  and the gods of Olympia will live there. just as they did in the great palace&#8230; and other places.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/06/obama-administration-will-sue-arizona-over-immigration-policy/#comment-170289</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Really, give me people who work as hard as they do, have them pay taxes, and have them become Americans and I’m a happy camper. If they need to bring their Grandma over then so be it. I’ll take all of them any country wants to send here - why should we limit the number of hard working individuals in this country? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I couldn&#039;t agree more. 

Btw, I am told there&#039;s a hefty proportion of Mexicans in the USMC, because if they successfully see their enlistment through to an honorable discharge, they thereby gain citizenship. (So they&#039;re kind of inverse liberals.) 

Ya gotta love people like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Really, give me people who work as hard as they do, have them pay taxes, and have them become Americans and I’m a happy camper. If they need to bring their Grandma over then so be it. I’ll take all of them any country wants to send here &#8211; why should we limit the number of hard working individuals in this country? </p></blockquote>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. </p>
<p>Btw, I am told there&#8217;s a hefty proportion of Mexicans in the USMC, because if they successfully see their enlistment through to an honorable discharge, they thereby gain citizenship. (So they&#8217;re kind of inverse liberals.) </p>
<p>Ya gotta love people like that.</p>
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		By: A_Nonny_Mouse		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/06/obama-administration-will-sue-arizona-over-immigration-policy/#comment-170288</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A_Nonny_Mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;... and the approach will be that the state has pre-empted the federal government’s over-arching right to regulate immigration...&quot;
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But-- Arizona&#039;s new law mirrors federal law, so they&#039;re not &quot;pre-empting&quot; the Feds with their own new approach.  (Someone elsewhere ?Krauthammer? said that the LAW is the same for AZ and the feds, so that shouldn&#039;t be an issue for the court; but he says the POLICY (ie not enforcing the law) is different; he wonders if the manner/ lack/ of implementation is sufficient to satisfy a court that the Obummer Admin&#039;s case has merit to proceed.)

An aside-
It&#039;s interesting to me:  on several anti-jihad websites, they discuss the concept of &quot;lawfare&quot; in which Islamicists attempt to facilitate our destruction by using our own rule-of-law AGAINST us in essentially a &quot;war by jurisprudence&quot;.  Obama and His Posse are doing the exact same thing.  As far as I can tell, America is under full-fledged civil (non-armed, non-military) attack from our own president and his advisers &#038; appointees, AND the legislature, AND the judiciary, AND the &quot;watchdog press&quot;. (--Hmm, interesting thought-- can you have a &quot;civil war&quot; that&#039;s top-down, elites-vs-commoners?  I thought it was usually the &quot;impoverished masses&quot; who revolt against the crushing oppression of their overlords...)

I swear I don&#039;t have a history of paranoia, BUT-- I truly believe every one of these groups listed above is going all-out to destroy me and my country.  Damn them all.  
Damn. Them.  ALL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; and the approach will be that the state has pre-empted the federal government’s over-arching right to regulate immigration&#8230;&#8221;<br />
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<p>But&#8211; Arizona&#8217;s new law mirrors federal law, so they&#8217;re not &#8220;pre-empting&#8221; the Feds with their own new approach.  (Someone elsewhere ?Krauthammer? said that the LAW is the same for AZ and the feds, so that shouldn&#8217;t be an issue for the court; but he says the POLICY (ie not enforcing the law) is different; he wonders if the manner/ lack/ of implementation is sufficient to satisfy a court that the Obummer Admin&#8217;s case has merit to proceed.)</p>
<p>An aside-<br />
It&#8217;s interesting to me:  on several anti-jihad websites, they discuss the concept of &#8220;lawfare&#8221; in which Islamicists attempt to facilitate our destruction by using our own rule-of-law AGAINST us in essentially a &#8220;war by jurisprudence&#8221;.  Obama and His Posse are doing the exact same thing.  As far as I can tell, America is under full-fledged civil (non-armed, non-military) attack from our own president and his advisers &amp; appointees, AND the legislature, AND the judiciary, AND the &#8220;watchdog press&#8221;. (&#8211;Hmm, interesting thought&#8211; can you have a &#8220;civil war&#8221; that&#8217;s top-down, elites-vs-commoners?  I thought it was usually the &#8220;impoverished masses&#8221; who revolt against the crushing oppression of their overlords&#8230;)</p>
<p>I swear I don&#8217;t have a history of paranoia, BUT&#8211; I truly believe every one of these groups listed above is going all-out to destroy me and my country.  Damn them all.<br />
Damn. Them.  ALL.</p>
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		By: Lame-R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/06/obama-administration-will-sue-arizona-over-immigration-policy/#comment-170280</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lame-R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@RantTherapy: &quot;What’s left then?&quot;

The quote which preceded your question excluded a pivotal point: that the question on immigration status was after being lawfully detained.

@SteveH: &quot;Human nature is great at detecting a vat of sewage as something you could possibly drown in. Not so much a vat of chocolate.&quot;--love it, that&#039;s my new intartubz sig!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RantTherapy: &#8220;What’s left then?&#8221;</p>
<p>The quote which preceded your question excluded a pivotal point: that the question on immigration status was after being lawfully detained.</p>
<p>@SteveH: &#8220;Human nature is great at detecting a vat of sewage as something you could possibly drown in. Not so much a vat of chocolate.&#8221;&#8211;love it, that&#8217;s my new intartubz sig!!</p>
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		By: DUI Attorney		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/07/06/obama-administration-will-sue-arizona-over-immigration-policy/#comment-170279</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DUI Attorney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolute madness!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolute madness!!</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 10:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Mexicans know not the destructive trap they are walking into. In twenty years the federal govt will insure through vote buying handouts that their work ethic will be destroyed and their families obese, fractured and lacking in self reliance.

 Human nature is great at detecting a vat of sewage as something you could possibly drown in. Not so much a vat of chocolate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mexicans know not the destructive trap they are walking into. In twenty years the federal govt will insure through vote buying handouts that their work ethic will be destroyed and their families obese, fractured and lacking in self reliance.</p>
<p> Human nature is great at detecting a vat of sewage as something you could possibly drown in. Not so much a vat of chocolate.</p>
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		By: IlÃ­on		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IlÃ­on]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Julia NYC:&lt;/b&gt; &quot;&lt;i&gt;... Why bother to leave if it’s gonna become just like Mexico?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Because the political elites, the governing class -- and thus the policy is consistent across all Mexican administrations -- of Mexico is intentionally conducting a slow-motion invasion-and-conquest of the US.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_March&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is their model&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Julia NYC:</b> &#8220;<i>&#8230; Why bother to leave if it’s gonna become just like Mexico?</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Because the political elites, the governing class &#8212; and thus the policy is consistent across all Mexican administrations &#8212; of Mexico is intentionally conducting a slow-motion invasion-and-conquest of the US.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_March" rel="nofollow">This is their model</a>.</p>
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