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		By: M.P. Ryan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/06/20/fathers-day-musings-and-poetry/#comment-166968</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.P. Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 03:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the poem. It struck a chord. In gratitude, I offer some fine lines Tom Wolfe wrote about fathers in &lt;i&gt;Bonfire of the Vanities&lt;/i&gt;. It speaks to another aspect of fatherhood, and sons:

&quot;Sherman made the terrible discovery that men make about their fathers sooner or later that the man before him was not an aging father but a boy, a boy much like himself, a boy who grew up and had a child of his own and, as best he could, out of a sense of duty and, perhaps love, adopted a role called &#039;Being a Father&#039; so that his child would have something mythical and infinitely important: a Protector, who would keep a lid on all the chaotic and catastrophic possibilities of life.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the poem. It struck a chord. In gratitude, I offer some fine lines Tom Wolfe wrote about fathers in <i>Bonfire of the Vanities</i>. It speaks to another aspect of fatherhood, and sons:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sherman made the terrible discovery that men make about their fathers sooner or later that the man before him was not an aging father but a boy, a boy much like himself, a boy who grew up and had a child of his own and, as best he could, out of a sense of duty and, perhaps love, adopted a role called &#8216;Being a Father&#8217; so that his child would have something mythical and infinitely important: a Protector, who would keep a lid on all the chaotic and catastrophic possibilities of life.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Maggie's Farm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maggie's Farm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Fathers...&lt;/strong&gt;

The final lines from a Robert Hayden poem posted by neoneo yesterday. A poet who understood fatherhood:
What did I know, what did I knowof love’s austere and lonely offices?
Dads know. Moms do not know that, but they know other things....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Fathers&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The final lines from a Robert Hayden poem posted by neoneo yesterday. A poet who understood fatherhood:<br />
What did I know, what did I knowof love’s austere and lonely offices?<br />
Dads know. Moms do not know that, but they know other things&#8230;.</p>
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		By: camojack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/06/20/fathers-day-musings-and-poetry/#comment-166833</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[camojack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I called my Pappy from the Lincoln Diner in Gettysburg, on my way back from hiking on the Appalachian Trail this weekend...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called my Pappy from the Lincoln Diner in Gettysburg, on my way back from hiking on the Appalachian Trail this weekend&#8230;</p>
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		By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/06/20/fathers-day-musings-and-poetry/#comment-166788</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J. formerly Jimmy J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Happy Father&#039;s Day to all the Fathers out there (including me). 

This was a very special day shared with my Wife and Daughter.  My heart is overflowing with gratitude for all the blessings and love I have received. Just want to share it and  hope that other Fathers had a very special day too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Father&#8217;s Day to all the Fathers out there (including me). </p>
<p>This was a very special day shared with my Wife and Daughter.  My heart is overflowing with gratitude for all the blessings and love I have received. Just want to share it and  hope that other Fathers had a very special day too.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/06/20/fathers-day-musings-and-poetry/#comment-166755</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The study was funded and conducted by lesbians whose data was what lesbians said about their kids.&lt;/i&gt;

Can&#039;t get much more reliable than that. 

&lt;i&gt;The longitudinal conclusions will serve as expert testimony in court cases. &lt;/i&gt;

Especially as there&#039;s no motivation to put a thumb on the scales.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The study was funded and conducted by lesbians whose data was what lesbians said about their kids.</i></p>
<p>Can&#8217;t get much more reliable than that. </p>
<p><i>The longitudinal conclusions will serve as expert testimony in court cases. </i></p>
<p>Especially as there&#8217;s no motivation to put a thumb on the scales.</p>
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		By: Curtis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/06/20/fathers-day-musings-and-poetry/#comment-166748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curtis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fathers. A fine sentiment, but only a sentiment I&#039;m afraid. Because there&#039;s a new &quot;longitudinal&quot; study that proves children from lesbian families are happier, better adjusted, and like themselves better. 

Most people don&#039;t know what longitudinal means, but they can rest assured that the social science behind the study is very objective. It was a National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study. 

The study was funded and conducted by lesbians whose data was what lesbians said about their kids. The longitudinal conclusions will serve as expert testimony in court cases. 

I guess since its longitudinal, its good. No refuting that. They got us there. I wonder which holiday the kids will pick to honor their lesbian parents. 

http://townhall.com/columnists/JaniceShawCrouse/2010/06/19/lesbian_mothers_think_their_children_are_all_above_average]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fathers. A fine sentiment, but only a sentiment I&#8217;m afraid. Because there&#8217;s a new &#8220;longitudinal&#8221; study that proves children from lesbian families are happier, better adjusted, and like themselves better. </p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t know what longitudinal means, but they can rest assured that the social science behind the study is very objective. It was a National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study. </p>
<p>The study was funded and conducted by lesbians whose data was what lesbians said about their kids. The longitudinal conclusions will serve as expert testimony in court cases. </p>
<p>I guess since its longitudinal, its good. No refuting that. They got us there. I wonder which holiday the kids will pick to honor their lesbian parents. </p>
<p><a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/JaniceShawCrouse/2010/06/19/lesbian_mothers_think_their_children_are_all_above_average" rel="nofollow ugc">http://townhall.com/columnists/JaniceShawCrouse/2010/06/19/lesbian_mothers_think_their_children_are_all_above_average</a></p>
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		By: Uncle Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I grew up in a father-less home, through no fault of my mother.  Those people who think that fathers are unnecessary, and that a single mother can be just as effective at raising a well-adjusted child as a father and mother together, are remarkably clueless.  

At the time I knew I was missing a lot, but I didn&#039;t actually realize just how much until I was, maybe, 25 years old.  Then I gradually began to realize how ill equipped I was to function in the real world.  There is so much that a boy needs to learn about how to function in society, how to relate to other men, and especially how to relate to women.  No matter how good the mother is, she will never be able to provide the same emotional skills.  I don&#039;t know if the same is true for girls, but I suspect that there is a lot girls can learn from fathers, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in a father-less home, through no fault of my mother.  Those people who think that fathers are unnecessary, and that a single mother can be just as effective at raising a well-adjusted child as a father and mother together, are remarkably clueless.  </p>
<p>At the time I knew I was missing a lot, but I didn&#8217;t actually realize just how much until I was, maybe, 25 years old.  Then I gradually began to realize how ill equipped I was to function in the real world.  There is so much that a boy needs to learn about how to function in society, how to relate to other men, and especially how to relate to women.  No matter how good the mother is, she will never be able to provide the same emotional skills.  I don&#8217;t know if the same is true for girls, but I suspect that there is a lot girls can learn from fathers, too.</p>
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		By: Moss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In modern law, fathers are no more than sperm donors with wallets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In modern law, fathers are no more than sperm donors with wallets.</p>
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		By: vanderleun		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/06/20/fathers-day-musings-and-poetry/#comment-166721</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vanderleun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in.

http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/myths_texts/my_dad.php]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in.</p>
<p><a href="http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/myths_texts/my_dad.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/myths_texts/my_dad.php</a></p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps i should say the movement is trying to say single parent hood is equal to the traditional family-which it is not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps i should say the movement is trying to say single parent hood is equal to the traditional family-which it is not.</p>
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