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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Today, 18th of June, is 70th anniversary of the most important speech delivered in modern history: Churchillean &quot;finest hour&quot; address. Now compare it to the last Obama address, as some pundits did:
http://blog.american.com/?p=15599
Now I understood why one the first Obama&#039;s moves was to send back to Britain the sculpture portrait of Churchill: he could not tolerate such rival in Oval Office, even in effigy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, 18th of June, is 70th anniversary of the most important speech delivered in modern history: Churchillean &#8220;finest hour&#8221; address. Now compare it to the last Obama address, as some pundits did:<br />
<a href="http://blog.american.com/?p=15599" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blog.american.com/?p=15599</a><br />
Now I understood why one the first Obama&#8217;s moves was to send back to Britain the sculpture portrait of Churchill: he could not tolerate such rival in Oval Office, even in effigy.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/06/16/how-hard-can-it-be-to-be-a-competent-president/#comment-166477</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The big employer I found out is the prison. That’s the big dream, to get a job working for the prison. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Julia, &quot;prison&quot; is such a harsh word. Think of it as a hotel and spa for Democrats.

Now isn&#039;t that nicer?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The big employer I found out is the prison. That’s the big dream, to get a job working for the prison. </p></blockquote>
<p>Julia, &#8220;prison&#8221; is such a harsh word. Think of it as a hotel and spa for Democrats.</p>
<p>Now isn&#8217;t that nicer?</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think what I am really saying is that if your lucky, you can bring someone out and you can see how their faces change while for the first time in their lives they really really live. No longer self conscious and thinking, but in the moment, timeless, and religious in its frisson.  :)    

There are many ways to do this IF you can get them away from what they think life is on their hamster wheels.   (and if you can get enough capital so you have some time yourself)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what I am really saying is that if your lucky, you can bring someone out and you can see how their faces change while for the first time in their lives they really really live. No longer self conscious and thinking, but in the moment, timeless, and religious in its frisson.  🙂    </p>
<p>There are many ways to do this IF you can get them away from what they think life is on their hamster wheels.   (and if you can get enough capital so you have some time yourself)</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon, 
  I feel for you I honestly do. my wife has a poor sense of rythm and cant whistle very well. when we were married I insisted on one thing, that our first dance was something in 3/4 timing. (and i insisted that she take a watch and create a time-line and actually walk through things (even in the living room) so that she knew what she actually could fit in). 

Anyway, her dress was a beautiful traditional type dress, and so, 3/4 was perfect. With literally almost no teaching I can do a ball room waltz step. All she has to do is keep hand position and be bold enough to take the larger steps, which once you do, actually becomes easy as you twirl and cover a huge area of the dance floor. 

Everyone thought she could dance and thought we took lessons. but it was easy compared to almost everything else you can do. and while i do respect a goog shimmy, there just is something wonderfully storybook and romantic of low lights, candles, and a man in black, a woman in white, and a dance floor open.   

:)

Jon, there are a lot of wonderful dances that do not require the kind of effort, practice, and ability to hold your lunch that fast step, Charleston, Lindy hop, jitter bug, swing, and those do (when aerials are done which is not common. ambulances are not fun)

the Tango is wonderful (and easier than it seems if your not trying to be an expert), as is some of the Spanish dances. 

And there is absolutely no way you can say that you cant do Square Dancing...  EVERYONE can do square dancing.. &quot;the secret to square dancing is that there is no other secret than doing it&quot;   :)

and while it seems corny as heck, when with people who like to do it, rather than made to do it (like in high school), its a whole lot of fun... 

you learn what each call means, listen carefully, and then do the call on the beat. that&#039;s why the songs are the way they are. swing your partner is an arm in arm move, its all fun and easy, and if you mess up, its even MORE fun... 

want to cure a liberal from the city? Take em on a meet America tour, and one place you have to take them is a Friday or Saturday night in fly over country at a huge hall with square dancing. 

just ask them how they can think that jumping around a camp fire is any more legitimate than this? or that any Indian weather dance in strange clothes is any stranger than this. 

the point is to get a few beers in them, a whole bunch of ribs, and then have them discover they can dance... 

wish i could write a book about my best experiences floating from place to place. from biker bars, to street fairs, and pretty much anything that people do as an expression of self determination and freedom. 

i go where others imagine things to be, and then find out they are usually wrong...  or that the view is always more complicated than any fantasy they come up with....

Truly wonderful...
Wonderful in a way that progressive sterility and clinical force just does not get is the essence of lifes purpose. 

As we must always sniff and taste the strawberries of life, dance is a strawberry, do it between the tigers, and ignore them for a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,<br />
  I feel for you I honestly do. my wife has a poor sense of rythm and cant whistle very well. when we were married I insisted on one thing, that our first dance was something in 3/4 timing. (and i insisted that she take a watch and create a time-line and actually walk through things (even in the living room) so that she knew what she actually could fit in). </p>
<p>Anyway, her dress was a beautiful traditional type dress, and so, 3/4 was perfect. With literally almost no teaching I can do a ball room waltz step. All she has to do is keep hand position and be bold enough to take the larger steps, which once you do, actually becomes easy as you twirl and cover a huge area of the dance floor. </p>
<p>Everyone thought she could dance and thought we took lessons. but it was easy compared to almost everything else you can do. and while i do respect a goog shimmy, there just is something wonderfully storybook and romantic of low lights, candles, and a man in black, a woman in white, and a dance floor open.   </p>
<p>🙂</p>
<p>Jon, there are a lot of wonderful dances that do not require the kind of effort, practice, and ability to hold your lunch that fast step, Charleston, Lindy hop, jitter bug, swing, and those do (when aerials are done which is not common. ambulances are not fun)</p>
<p>the Tango is wonderful (and easier than it seems if your not trying to be an expert), as is some of the Spanish dances. </p>
<p>And there is absolutely no way you can say that you cant do Square Dancing&#8230;  EVERYONE can do square dancing.. &#8220;the secret to square dancing is that there is no other secret than doing it&#8221;   🙂</p>
<p>and while it seems corny as heck, when with people who like to do it, rather than made to do it (like in high school), its a whole lot of fun&#8230; </p>
<p>you learn what each call means, listen carefully, and then do the call on the beat. that&#8217;s why the songs are the way they are. swing your partner is an arm in arm move, its all fun and easy, and if you mess up, its even MORE fun&#8230; </p>
<p>want to cure a liberal from the city? Take em on a meet America tour, and one place you have to take them is a Friday or Saturday night in fly over country at a huge hall with square dancing. </p>
<p>just ask them how they can think that jumping around a camp fire is any more legitimate than this? or that any Indian weather dance in strange clothes is any stranger than this. </p>
<p>the point is to get a few beers in them, a whole bunch of ribs, and then have them discover they can dance&#8230; </p>
<p>wish i could write a book about my best experiences floating from place to place. from biker bars, to street fairs, and pretty much anything that people do as an expression of self determination and freedom. </p>
<p>i go where others imagine things to be, and then find out they are usually wrong&#8230;  or that the view is always more complicated than any fantasy they come up with&#8230;.</p>
<p>Truly wonderful&#8230;<br />
Wonderful in a way that progressive sterility and clinical force just does not get is the essence of lifes purpose. </p>
<p>As we must always sniff and taste the strawberries of life, dance is a strawberry, do it between the tigers, and ignore them for a while.</p>
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		By: Julia NYC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 04:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am often in the country and I cannot believe the morbid obesity I see there.  It&#039;s pretty shocking and a lot worse than the city.  The area I visit is this odd place that likes to think that everyone from there is Daniel Boone and self sufficient but they all seem to have these fake government make work jobs, that they do quite badly.  The place is just a disaster economically, there&#039;s no private industry or private sector real economy.  Yet they seem like they think of themselves as real conservatives, yet they live like parasites.  The big employer I found out is the prison.  That&#039;s the big dream, to get a job working for the prison.  And to never leave the county.

The scenery is beautiful, really gorgeous and breathtaking, which is why I go there, but I always feel like culturally I&#039;m on the moon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am often in the country and I cannot believe the morbid obesity I see there.  It&#8217;s pretty shocking and a lot worse than the city.  The area I visit is this odd place that likes to think that everyone from there is Daniel Boone and self sufficient but they all seem to have these fake government make work jobs, that they do quite badly.  The place is just a disaster economically, there&#8217;s no private industry or private sector real economy.  Yet they seem like they think of themselves as real conservatives, yet they live like parasites.  The big employer I found out is the prison.  That&#8217;s the big dream, to get a job working for the prison.  And to never leave the county.</p>
<p>The scenery is beautiful, really gorgeous and breathtaking, which is why I go there, but I always feel like culturally I&#8217;m on the moon.</p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 02:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ART,
When it comes to dancing I have two left feet!  I actually had a country dance instructor laugh at me!  I was almost 30 when I first tried to learn. I got to where I could do a two step and a country waltz, but not very good.  But I have not done it in a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ART,<br />
When it comes to dancing I have two left feet!  I actually had a country dance instructor laugh at me!  I was almost 30 when I first tried to learn. I got to where I could do a two step and a country waltz, but not very good.  But I have not done it in a while.</p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 02:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Food stamps probably dont help the situation, as some of these people, (not those in the apartments) would be out in their yards growing vegetables if they did not get free food stamps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Food stamps probably dont help the situation, as some of these people, (not those in the apartments) would be out in their yards growing vegetables if they did not get free food stamps.</p>
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		By: jon baker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 02:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art,
Yes, you are right about the general physical unfitness of the population and its getting worse.   Both rural and urban- no doubt there.   

I also think that constant source of cheap illegal labor is not helping.   They drive the labor wages down and less citizens are willing to do those jobs then. 

 I think overall men are somewhat better shape than the women- at least in the blue collar socio-economic areas- as some of these males, even among citizens- still have physical jobs.  Though even many of them are overweight.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,<br />
Yes, you are right about the general physical unfitness of the population and its getting worse.   Both rural and urban- no doubt there.   </p>
<p>I also think that constant source of cheap illegal labor is not helping.   They drive the labor wages down and less citizens are willing to do those jobs then. </p>
<p> I think overall men are somewhat better shape than the women- at least in the blue collar socio-economic areas- as some of these males, even among citizens- still have physical jobs.  Though even many of them are overweight.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[oh... 
i should point out that these dances are not choreographed. that is, the man had to LEAD, and the woman had to know how to take a lead.

his job was to choreograph it on the fly, and her job was to complete the deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh&#8230;<br />
i should point out that these dances are not choreographed. that is, the man had to LEAD, and the woman had to know how to take a lead.</p>
<p>his job was to choreograph it on the fly, and her job was to complete the deal.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As far as ability... 

All one has to do is look how we dance
and how popular dance by people has moved through the eras

Today you don&#039;t really have it. If you do, it’s like a giant mush pit.  When not, it’s more of some odd bump and grind, and sexual show...  (There is also country western which is still as active as it was in the 1800s). 

But how physical is it, and how many do it?  
(In rural areas they still do, and city folk would be surprised to see huge dance halls all new and running weekly outside their little worlds). 

now lets turn back the dial, as i did above. 
what was dance to us then? .
how many people danced several times a week? 

what kinds of dance were the most popular? 
how complicated was it?  how in shape did you have to be? 

here is an example of the entertainment difference

Mosh pit and concert..  Note that during the punk era of my youth that was/is dancing... 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7w7m4lb2ok

And here is line dancing..   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGpZ9bchCJw
[sorry its achy breaky]

And disco was also physical, I will spare you the hustle
Then there is the twist, and the mashed potato… 

Though I should show the youngins the frug, 
the aloof (rich mans frug) (shirley mclean)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnFQvlb2OA&#038;feature=related
[always reminds me of pippin and of course the originator, fosse]

But turn it back to before the war era, and during and right after. 
What kind of dances? 

Well, when the twin towers were up still, I would be there Wednesday nights to dance with my partner. What kind of dance? 

Well, I would always like Lindy hop, but mostly we danced swing… 
Lindy hop came before the war, and swing came during and after.  
Other than the few who get into it after its revival in the 80s (us kids came of age, and our parents danced swing, as their parents danced lindy hop)

It can never catch on again because the people were and are WAY too out of shape.. 
the people who revived it spend a lot of time trying to learn from old timers
and the old timers came and they were still in shape to a degree. 

just watching them can make you tired…   

Lindy Hop Showdown (fast swing dancing)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAAAV7BB1HU

oh… and don’t forget the jitter bug… way before it was a phone.

Swing Dancing from the Movie Twiced Blessed (1945) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESc5D5lWQQ0


dancing swing or lindy or jitterbug all night (several hours) is very hard
(and so is fencing)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as ability&#8230; </p>
<p>All one has to do is look how we dance<br />
and how popular dance by people has moved through the eras</p>
<p>Today you don&#8217;t really have it. If you do, it’s like a giant mush pit.  When not, it’s more of some odd bump and grind, and sexual show&#8230;  (There is also country western which is still as active as it was in the 1800s). </p>
<p>But how physical is it, and how many do it?<br />
(In rural areas they still do, and city folk would be surprised to see huge dance halls all new and running weekly outside their little worlds). </p>
<p>now lets turn back the dial, as i did above.<br />
what was dance to us then? .<br />
how many people danced several times a week? </p>
<p>what kinds of dance were the most popular?<br />
how complicated was it?  how in shape did you have to be? </p>
<p>here is an example of the entertainment difference</p>
<p>Mosh pit and concert..  Note that during the punk era of my youth that was/is dancing&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7w7m4lb2ok" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7w7m4lb2ok</a></p>
<p>And here is line dancing..<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGpZ9bchCJw" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGpZ9bchCJw</a><br />
[sorry its achy breaky]</p>
<p>And disco was also physical, I will spare you the hustle<br />
Then there is the twist, and the mashed potato… </p>
<p>Though I should show the youngins the frug,<br />
the aloof (rich mans frug) (shirley mclean)<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnFQvlb2OA&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnFQvlb2OA&#038;feature=related</a><br />
[always reminds me of pippin and of course the originator, fosse]</p>
<p>But turn it back to before the war era, and during and right after.<br />
What kind of dances? </p>
<p>Well, when the twin towers were up still, I would be there Wednesday nights to dance with my partner. What kind of dance? </p>
<p>Well, I would always like Lindy hop, but mostly we danced swing…<br />
Lindy hop came before the war, and swing came during and after.<br />
Other than the few who get into it after its revival in the 80s (us kids came of age, and our parents danced swing, as their parents danced lindy hop)</p>
<p>It can never catch on again because the people were and are WAY too out of shape..<br />
the people who revived it spend a lot of time trying to learn from old timers<br />
and the old timers came and they were still in shape to a degree. </p>
<p>just watching them can make you tired…   </p>
<p>Lindy Hop Showdown (fast swing dancing)<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAAAV7BB1HU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAAAV7BB1HU</a></p>
<p>oh… and don’t forget the jitter bug… way before it was a phone.</p>
<p>Swing Dancing from the Movie Twiced Blessed (1945)<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESc5D5lWQQ0" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESc5D5lWQQ0</a></p>
<p>dancing swing or lindy or jitterbug all night (several hours) is very hard<br />
(and so is fencing)</p>
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