Comments on: The Israeli commando raid and the aid ship

By: Poor Richard

Poor Richard — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:05:13 +0000

Anna:

Perhaps you might want to give your mother Brigitte Gabriel’s book “Because They Hate.”

MDL:

Tell me something, MDL. How come the “peace activists” didn’t sail to Egypt and try to break Egypt’s blockade of Gaza? Oops, sorry! Forgot we’re not allowed to mention Egypt is also blockading Gaza. Nevvvvvvver mind!

By: Assistant Village Idiot

Assistant Village Idiot — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 02:19:45 +0000

MDL – wow, devastating argument! You musta been onna debate team, huh?

By: anna

anna — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:54:07 +0000

thanks for the info guys. to answer curtis’s question, I really just looked at wikipedia and other obvious sources for the info that I got that changed my mind. plus looking at how my mother irrationally sides with palestine 100% and tones everything else out made me go hmmmm.

with incidents like this, it is obvious (to me) what actually happened here so it makes it harder to tone out the truth.

The weird thing is that I am headed out to Beirut soon to visit the fam…

By: Bob from Virginia

Bob from Virginia — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:17:24 +0000

When I wrote “Fish Buffet” I meant a buffet for the fish, just to be completely clear.

By: Tatyana

Tatyana — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:38:51 +0000

Bob,
still: we are here, and they are there…

By: Bob From Virginia

Bob From Virginia — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:25:03 +0000

Tatyana, I too, would prefer such a clear cut resolution of the “peace flotilla”; I would call it the “Fish Buffet” method, with a clear declaration that this is new policy.

By: Tatyana

Tatyana — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:12:23 +0000

Bob:
DryBones is on my blogroll, I visit him often.
I hear you (and readily agree re: your brilliance!), and gevalt wagon is an unfortunately, familiar thing.

At the same time, since clearly there is no amount of playing by the most ethical rules (unprecedented, actually) on part of Israelis results in less hatred towards them – I'[d prefer them to stop apologizing and just send torpedoes silently. No explanations afterwards needed, either; only statement of fact: on such and such date our military/navy were attacked by pirates and given direct order from commanding officers, performed a successful operation. That’s it.

By: Bob from Virginia

Bob from Virginia — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:46:33 +0000

Tatyana RE: Optimism vs. reality. Here is a story from 1974. I was traveling in South America and briefly teamed up with two young German girls. I asked for their opinion of the Middle East and found that blamed the whole thing on the US for resupplying Israel during the Yom Kippur war because without it Israel would have been wiped off the map, unpleasant problem solved. Point; Europe wants to be rid of Israel. The moral problem is that it needs to justify it’s hate, surely in part to hide it’s own self-evisceration, and because cowards always hate the brave. There is nothing Israel can can do to keep them from finding a reason, any reason, once they choose to. The “peace” flotilla should have been such an excuse yet it only produced a few thousands of the usual suspects as demonstrators in an area where hating Israel (Jews) is a traditional pastime.

I suspect the gevalting about the damage done to Israel is not only wrong but dead wrong. There may be (note the use of the conditional “may”) too many Europeans who realize what happened in London and Madrid could happen to them. They see Islamist intrusion taking over one city after another, that whole parts of Brussels and Paris are no go zones. They see an Iranian bomb controlled by someone who wants world conquest, and Turkey, which sends thousands of guest workers to west Europe going Islamist while still having access to Nato weapons and secrets. Take all this in and do you think that the average European will consider anyone who kills Islamists enemies or friends? Self-interest does not always trump the need to hate, but I suspect in this case it is at least is influencing the number of demonstrators. I also suspect the pundits who are whining about Israel’s image are just jumping on the gevalt bandwagon. Remember the famous Jewish telegram “start worrying, details follow”.

Another story (sorry about the long post but I want you all to know how brilliant I am). When I first arrived in Israel, the papers were all predicting some sort of catastrophe for the following week, so I braced myself for the worse. The following week not only was there no catastrophe there was not even a mention of the prediction, but there was a prediction of another disaster coming the following week. Of course that didn’t happen either, but there was another prediction for the next week of a new more horrible disaster. By that time I was only interested in the comics.

BTW if you never got the Israeli cartoon Dry Bones here is the website:
http://drybonesblog.blogspot.com/

By: Tatyana

Tatyana — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:39:19 +0000

Bob: “stink” is right!

By: Bob from Virginia

Bob from Virginia — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:35:08 +0000

Anyone remember that 2 weeks ago North Korea engaged South Korea in an overt unprovoked act of war in which a warship was sank with many killed. Whoops a real and difficult problem, better to stink to a conversation maker like Israel.