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		By: Mission Viejo water removal		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/20/churchill-and-the-eu/#comment-213923</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mission Viejo water removal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 02:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I dont speak on many websites which come across but MY SPOUSE AND I felt I couldn&#039;t pass by the opportunity with that one. Nice post. I can only wonder should really be writing in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont speak on many websites which come across but MY SPOUSE AND I felt I couldn&#8217;t pass by the opportunity with that one. Nice post. I can only wonder should really be writing in the future.</p>
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		By: gs		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/20/churchill-and-the-eu/#comment-161377</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 23:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am not all that knowledgeable about history &#038; economics and I invite those who are to weigh in, but it&#039;s my &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill#Rejoining_the_Conservative_Party_.E2.80.93_Chancellor_of_the_Exchequer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;impression&lt;/a&gt; that Churchill was a less than successful Chancellor of the Exchequer.  By questioning whether we&#039;d want him overseeing the economy, I do not mean to disparage his indispensable historic greatness.

My impression is that Churchill was brilliant: brilliantly right and brilliantly wrong and, perhaps, sometimes insistent on displaying brilliance in situations better suited to stodgy competence.

Maggie Thatcher is just the man they need over there.  Or perhaps Ludwig Erhard, who presided over the rapid reconstruction of West Germany after WW2.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not all that knowledgeable about history &amp; economics and I invite those who are to weigh in, but it&#8217;s my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill#Rejoining_the_Conservative_Party_.E2.80.93_Chancellor_of_the_Exchequer" rel="nofollow">impression</a> that Churchill was a less than successful Chancellor of the Exchequer.  By questioning whether we&#8217;d want him overseeing the economy, I do not mean to disparage his indispensable historic greatness.</p>
<p>My impression is that Churchill was brilliant: brilliantly right and brilliantly wrong and, perhaps, sometimes insistent on displaying brilliance in situations better suited to stodgy competence.</p>
<p>Maggie Thatcher is just the man they need over there.  Or perhaps Ludwig Erhard, who presided over the rapid reconstruction of West Germany after WW2.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/20/churchill-and-the-eu/#comment-161363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 22:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i dont know... i have a cluttered mind and a cluttered desk... 

if a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind
what is a clean empty desk the sign of?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont know&#8230; i have a cluttered mind and a cluttered desk&#8230; </p>
<p>if a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind<br />
what is a clean empty desk the sign of?</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/20/churchill-and-the-eu/#comment-161356</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;In one phrase he writes about EU leaders that they “are rearranging chairs at Titanic deck lecturing world about ocean navigation” and in next paragraph looks for better ways to rearrange these chairs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I believe that this is called a &quot;displacement activity.&quot;

How many desks get meticulously cleared off and tidied up in the runup to April 15th?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In one phrase he writes about EU leaders that they “are rearranging chairs at Titanic deck lecturing world about ocean navigation” and in next paragraph looks for better ways to rearrange these chairs.</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe that this is called a &#8220;displacement activity.&#8221;</p>
<p>How many desks get meticulously cleared off and tidied up in the runup to April 15th?</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/20/churchill-and-the-eu/#comment-161342</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 20:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;In one phrase he writes about EU leaders that they “are rearranging chairs at Titanic deck lecturing world about ocean navigation” and in next paragraph looks for better ways to rearrange these chairs.&lt;/i&gt;

this is a human thing that amazes me, and even here. 

where you explain the history of something that completely changes the ideas that are being discussed from a basis of fantasy (common fantasy, but fantasy), and right after they concede and go wow... they are back to the races on the same path. 

i dont get as frustrated now, but if you read me here earlier, when tere were more stubborn mentalities who would not change a position because doing so would A) mean they lost the debate B) would mean that the fantasy they are clinging to is just that. 

when i see things like this, i imagine few academics having an auto breakdown in snake country. 

while waiting for another car... they notice a snake, and they start a debate as to whether its a coral snake, or its less toxic mimic. 

both decide that for some point of academic self referencing information, that it must not be the poison one. 

as they do this, the driver looks and says, watch out for that coral snake... 

to which one of them picks it up, and says its not a coral snake, and then gets bit. 

driving down the road is their savior... another academic in a woody...  water and feul go around, and as the driver fixes their car.. 

the two academics start to discuss... is that REALLY a coral snake, or did he happen to have a heart attack right at the moment he picked it up.
 
and they are back off to the races. 

of course the driver who knows and has common sense is ignored, the dead are ignored, the whole of it is ignored. 

they are having too much fun listening to their arguments and talk resonate in their heads and htey just dont have time for such trivial people. 

good thing that they decided to pick it up and bring it to their friend the herpetiologist back at berkley. 

memorial services were held later that week.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In one phrase he writes about EU leaders that they “are rearranging chairs at Titanic deck lecturing world about ocean navigation” and in next paragraph looks for better ways to rearrange these chairs.</i></p>
<p>this is a human thing that amazes me, and even here. </p>
<p>where you explain the history of something that completely changes the ideas that are being discussed from a basis of fantasy (common fantasy, but fantasy), and right after they concede and go wow&#8230; they are back to the races on the same path. </p>
<p>i dont get as frustrated now, but if you read me here earlier, when tere were more stubborn mentalities who would not change a position because doing so would A) mean they lost the debate B) would mean that the fantasy they are clinging to is just that. </p>
<p>when i see things like this, i imagine few academics having an auto breakdown in snake country. </p>
<p>while waiting for another car&#8230; they notice a snake, and they start a debate as to whether its a coral snake, or its less toxic mimic. </p>
<p>both decide that for some point of academic self referencing information, that it must not be the poison one. </p>
<p>as they do this, the driver looks and says, watch out for that coral snake&#8230; </p>
<p>to which one of them picks it up, and says its not a coral snake, and then gets bit. </p>
<p>driving down the road is their savior&#8230; another academic in a woody&#8230;  water and feul go around, and as the driver fixes their car.. </p>
<p>the two academics start to discuss&#8230; is that REALLY a coral snake, or did he happen to have a heart attack right at the moment he picked it up.</p>
<p>and they are back off to the races. </p>
<p>of course the driver who knows and has common sense is ignored, the dead are ignored, the whole of it is ignored. </p>
<p>they are having too much fun listening to their arguments and talk resonate in their heads and htey just dont have time for such trivial people. </p>
<p>good thing that they decided to pick it up and bring it to their friend the herpetiologist back at berkley. </p>
<p>memorial services were held later that week.</p>
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		By: Bob from Virginia		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/20/churchill-and-the-eu/#comment-161281</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 16:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim Kearney NYC, that is a keen observation about the Churchill bust.   It would fit the psychological pattern of Obama the Marxist, anti-democracy, weakling.  The type of person who would hate Churchill for his greatness achieved by representing everything Obama detests, with being a great writer to boot.  A greatness Obama wants but knows at some level, he is merely an empty fraud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Kearney NYC, that is a keen observation about the Churchill bust.   It would fit the psychological pattern of Obama the Marxist, anti-democracy, weakling.  The type of person who would hate Churchill for his greatness achieved by representing everything Obama detests, with being a great writer to boot.  A greatness Obama wants but knows at some level, he is merely an empty fraud.</p>
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		By: IgotBupkis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/20/churchill-and-the-eu/#comment-161276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IgotBupkis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, when the Greek citizenry is rioting because people are threatening to take away things they can&#039;t afford to pay for, it says a lot about the overall attitude in all too much of the EU.

The EU is going to collapse. The key question is, what will take its place? 

Eurabia? Or The Next Reich?

The next fifty years will be... &lt;i&gt;interesting...&lt;/i&gt; in the apocryphal Chinese sense of the word.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, when the Greek citizenry is rioting because people are threatening to take away things they can&#8217;t afford to pay for, it says a lot about the overall attitude in all too much of the EU.</p>
<p>The EU is going to collapse. The key question is, what will take its place? </p>
<p>Eurabia? Or The Next Reich?</p>
<p>The next fifty years will be&#8230; <i>interesting&#8230;</i> in the apocryphal Chinese sense of the word.</p>
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		By: Jim Kearney  NYC		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/20/churchill-and-the-eu/#comment-161275</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just watched a recent movie about Winnie, during and after the war. Starring Brendan Gleeson who did an excellent job, and Janet McTeer as his liberal long suffering wife.  
 
At the end of the movie, the movies explicitly portrays Winnie lamenting that the British people have had it, with the wartime Winnie, and were choosing a &quot;NEW&quot; way of British life (THE WELFARE STATE).  I couldn&#039;t believe my ears.   They even called it &quot;The Welfare State&quot;.  He was a prophet.  
Prescient.  
And Winnie was a strong critic of the communist and socialist state.   Any wonder WHY one of Obamba&#039;s first acts as president was to pack up the bust of Anti Commie Winnie, man of honor, true strength, and virtue,  and sent it back with a slap in the face to the British people.  

I&#039;ll bet there&#039;s a replacement bust of Mao sitting up there in it&#039;s place, to go with his &quot;holiday&quot; tree Commie herooe bulbs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched a recent movie about Winnie, during and after the war. Starring Brendan Gleeson who did an excellent job, and Janet McTeer as his liberal long suffering wife.  </p>
<p>At the end of the movie, the movies explicitly portrays Winnie lamenting that the British people have had it, with the wartime Winnie, and were choosing a &#8220;NEW&#8221; way of British life (THE WELFARE STATE).  I couldn&#8217;t believe my ears.   They even called it &#8220;The Welfare State&#8221;.  He was a prophet.<br />
Prescient.<br />
And Winnie was a strong critic of the communist and socialist state.   Any wonder WHY one of Obamba&#8217;s first acts as president was to pack up the bust of Anti Commie Winnie, man of honor, true strength, and virtue,  and sent it back with a slap in the face to the British people.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet there&#8217;s a replacement bust of Mao sitting up there in it&#8217;s place, to go with his &#8220;holiday&#8221; tree Commie herooe bulbs.</p>
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		By: Daniel in Brookline		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 14:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob from Virginia:

I think you&#039;re basically right, although I would not describe that as a &quot;happy ending&quot;.

If the Europeans are not willing to fight for their lands and produce a new generation willing to do the same, they will move aside for people who &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; willing.  (They will not be given a choice in the matter.)  And the most likely candidates for such a takeover are those who name their sons Mohammed.

(Sorry, I couldn&#039;t resist a reference to yesterday&#039;s &quot;everybody draw Mohammed&quot; day.)

Will we see a Muslim France, a Muslim Belgium, a Muslim Greece, in our lifetimes?  Mark Steyn thinks we will, and he makes a convincing argument.  

respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob from Virginia:</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re basically right, although I would not describe that as a &#8220;happy ending&#8221;.</p>
<p>If the Europeans are not willing to fight for their lands and produce a new generation willing to do the same, they will move aside for people who <i>are</i> willing.  (They will not be given a choice in the matter.)  And the most likely candidates for such a takeover are those who name their sons Mohammed.</p>
<p>(Sorry, I couldn&#8217;t resist a reference to yesterday&#8217;s &#8220;everybody draw Mohammed&#8221; day.)</p>
<p>Will we see a Muslim France, a Muslim Belgium, a Muslim Greece, in our lifetimes?  Mark Steyn thinks we will, and he makes a convincing argument.  </p>
<p>respectfully,<br />
Daniel in Brookline</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 07:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TGA article is full of contradictions. It in itself demonstrates how ideology trumps common sense even in well informed and smart people. In one phrase he writes about EU leaders that they &quot;are rearranging chairs at Titanic deck lecturing world about ocean navigation&quot; and in next paragraph looks for better ways to rearrange these chairs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TGA article is full of contradictions. It in itself demonstrates how ideology trumps common sense even in well informed and smart people. In one phrase he writes about EU leaders that they &#8220;are rearranging chairs at Titanic deck lecturing world about ocean navigation&#8221; and in next paragraph looks for better ways to rearrange these chairs.</p>
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