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		By: IgotBupkis		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/18/on-reparations-henry-gates-gets-it/#comment-161164</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IgotBupkis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 17:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062; &lt;i&gt;I heard that Cinque, of Amistad fame, went into business as a slave trader. Anybody know?&lt;/i&gt;

Not according to Steven Spielberg...

As I understand it, while the movie ends with him sailing back to Africa, in real life, he moved to the West Indies and traded in slaves himself, so, yeah.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://common-place.org/vol-10/no-01/yannielli/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There is debate over this, however&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;m not sure I trust the University of Oklahoma, since such organizations can clearly have a great big axe to grind when it comes to this sort of thing. I&#039;d want to know a lot more about the author&#039;s background and academic honesty.


If true, though, it also puts paid to this claim:
&#062; &lt;i&gt;Excuses run the gamut, from “Africans didn’t know how harsh slavery in America was” &lt;/i&gt;

Clearly, he did. Indeed -- &lt;b&gt;far more so than any white man&lt;/b&gt;. And yet he still chose to engage in it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; <i>I heard that Cinque, of Amistad fame, went into business as a slave trader. Anybody know?</i></p>
<p>Not according to Steven Spielberg&#8230;</p>
<p>As I understand it, while the movie ends with him sailing back to Africa, in real life, he moved to the West Indies and traded in slaves himself, so, yeah.</p>
<p><a href="http://common-place.org/vol-10/no-01/yannielli/" rel="nofollow">There is debate over this, however</a>. I&#8217;m not sure I trust the University of Oklahoma, since such organizations can clearly have a great big axe to grind when it comes to this sort of thing. I&#8217;d want to know a lot more about the author&#8217;s background and academic honesty.</p>
<p>If true, though, it also puts paid to this claim:<br />
&gt; <i>Excuses run the gamut, from “Africans didn’t know how harsh slavery in America was” </i></p>
<p>Clearly, he did. Indeed &#8212; <b>far more so than any white man</b>. And yet he still chose to engage in it.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/18/on-reparations-henry-gates-gets-it/#comment-161098</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assistant Village Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 02:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alex, gently pointing out that however far back it goes, persecution of Jews in America has been not so much the last 400 years.  Prejudice, plenty.  Persecution in the usual sense, not so much.  That&#039;s going to really gum up the math of figuring out who owes what.

&quot;North African&quot; has significant overlap with &quot;Moslem,&quot; BTW.  Perhaps the most enslaving people in the history of the world - and there&#039;s significant competition for that dishonor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, gently pointing out that however far back it goes, persecution of Jews in America has been not so much the last 400 years.  Prejudice, plenty.  Persecution in the usual sense, not so much.  That&#8217;s going to really gum up the math of figuring out who owes what.</p>
<p>&#8220;North African&#8221; has significant overlap with &#8220;Moslem,&#8221; BTW.  Perhaps the most enslaving people in the history of the world &#8211; and there&#8217;s significant competition for that dishonor.</p>
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		By: anna		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 23:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[haha can I get money from the Turkish government then?? I am partially Armenian.  oh and I&#039;m half Irish so the British owe me big time, as do the Vikings. 

Seriously though, my Armenian parent is still mad at the ottoman empire... 

Also, isn&#039;t Britain still mad about being invaded by the Romans?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha can I get money from the Turkish government then?? I am partially Armenian.  oh and I&#8217;m half Irish so the British owe me big time, as do the Vikings. </p>
<p>Seriously though, my Armenian parent is still mad at the ottoman empire&#8230; </p>
<p>Also, isn&#8217;t Britain still mad about being invaded by the Romans?</p>
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		By: Alex Bensky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Bensky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 18:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Personally, I have no trouble with the idea that if historically your group has been oppressed by someone else&#039;s group, irrespective of whether you yourself suffered from the oppression or people now living in the other group committed it, you&#039;re entitled to reparations. Seems like a good idea but first things first. 

It&#039;s been about four hundred years since the slave trade came to what became the United States. Christian persecution of Jews stretches back about four times that long. So any Christians reading this weblog who feel guilty enough over the slave trade to support reparations for American blacks...you owe me first.

Check is fine but I prefer cash.

And by the way, we&#039;ve already had decades of reparations. Affirmative action as it developed, minority set-sides by government and private business, scholarships to universities and expensively-funded support programs for such students...African-American &quot;themed&quot; dormitories...lots more. Why doesn&#039;t this count?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I have no trouble with the idea that if historically your group has been oppressed by someone else&#8217;s group, irrespective of whether you yourself suffered from the oppression or people now living in the other group committed it, you&#8217;re entitled to reparations. Seems like a good idea but first things first. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been about four hundred years since the slave trade came to what became the United States. Christian persecution of Jews stretches back about four times that long. So any Christians reading this weblog who feel guilty enough over the slave trade to support reparations for American blacks&#8230;you owe me first.</p>
<p>Check is fine but I prefer cash.</p>
<p>And by the way, we&#8217;ve already had decades of reparations. Affirmative action as it developed, minority set-sides by government and private business, scholarships to universities and expensively-funded support programs for such students&#8230;African-American &#8220;themed&#8221; dormitories&#8230;lots more. Why doesn&#8217;t this count?</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 15:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know it&#039;s off subject but speaking of Harvard,,,,

Man accused of duping Harvard pleads not guilty


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/18/delaware-man-accused-duping-harvard-pleads-guilty/?test=latestnews]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s off subject but speaking of Harvard,,,,</p>
<p>Man accused of duping Harvard pleads not guilty</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/18/delaware-man-accused-duping-harvard-pleads-guilty/?test=latestnews" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/18/delaware-man-accused-duping-harvard-pleads-guilty/?test=latestnews</a></p>
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		By: Pat Dooley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/05/18/on-reparations-henry-gates-gets-it/#comment-161030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat Dooley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 14:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thomas Sowell wrote:

&quot;Just as Europeans enslaved Africans, North Africans enslaved Europeans; more Europeans than there were Africans enslaved in the United States and in the 13 colonies from which it was formed.

The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves picking cotton. But there are no movies or television dramas about it comparable to Roots, and our schools and colleges don&#039;t pound it into the heads of students.&quot;

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-sowell_02edi.State.Edition1.284716c.html

So, when are we going to get our reparations from North Africa?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Sowell wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Just as Europeans enslaved Africans, North Africans enslaved Europeans; more Europeans than there were Africans enslaved in the United States and in the 13 colonies from which it was formed.</p>
<p>The treatment of white galley slaves was even worse than the treatment of black slaves picking cotton. But there are no movies or television dramas about it comparable to Roots, and our schools and colleges don&#8217;t pound it into the heads of students.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-sowell_02edi.State.Edition1.284716c.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-sowell_02edi.State.Edition1.284716c.html</a></p>
<p>So, when are we going to get our reparations from North Africa?</p>
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		By: RickZ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 13:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Skippy Gates?  I feel so dirty now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Skippy Gates?  I feel so dirty now.</p>
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		By: Nolanimrod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nolanimrod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 05:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds to me like a black man adjusting his tack to continue plucking urchins from the sea of white liberal guilt.

&lt;em&gt;It&#039;s still bad&lt;/em&gt;, sayeth Skippy. &lt;em&gt;But I, too, will grant you honkies absolution if it will get me what it did Barack&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds to me like a black man adjusting his tack to continue plucking urchins from the sea of white liberal guilt.</p>
<p><em>It&#8217;s still bad</em>, sayeth Skippy. <em>But I, too, will grant you honkies absolution if it will get me what it did Barack</em>.</p>
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		By: Antimedia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antimedia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 05:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://common-place.org/vol-10/no-01/yannielli/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; it would appear that Cinque was not a slave trader.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://common-place.org/vol-10/no-01/yannielli/" rel="nofollow">this article</a> it would appear that Cinque was not a slave trader.</p>
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		By: Antimedia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antimedia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 04:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now if can just get someone, anyone in the African American community, to admit that Africans are &lt;b&gt;still&lt;/b&gt; selling their brothers into slavery.......Bueller???  Anyone???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if can just get someone, anyone in the African American community, to admit that Africans are <b>still</b> selling their brothers into slavery&#8230;&#8230;.Bueller???  Anyone???</p>
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