How is planting a bomb in Times Square more damaging than hammering at the Constitution the way Dick Cheney did? Can we claim Cheney is no longer a citizen, and impound him, too?

I think the Act anticipates an operation of law that has not yet occurred in the case of the Times Square bomber.

Nor with Richard Cheney, either.

How about Oliver North? (Hey, this could be fun . . .)

Who trusts Obama that much? Not me.

Let’s not forget that a “suspect” is someone the government accuses of a crime — and the Bill of Rights was crafted to prevent the government from abusing its power over citizens.

Our descent into Soviet tyranny just gained a little more speed.

Such an action is clearly available in this case under 8 USC Ch. 12, Subch. III, Part II, § 1451 in conjunction with 8 USC Ch. 12, Subch. III, Part II, § 1424 (a)(4)(B). Note that this only requires “affiliation” with, not membership in, a prohibited group.

Please, no BS about fascism or totalitarianism, no hysteria over the dire implications of the thing. It’s simply a matter of not allowing an enemy to take advantage of US citizenship obtained through fraud.

If you believe we are not entitled to use such minimal self-protection, cite me an example of a nation the laws of which allows its enemies to so benefit. If you can’t, your expectation that the US will adhere to dangerous standards adhered to by no other nation makes you a prima facie anti-American, though of a common, banal type.

“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen.”

Sen. Joe Lieberman has already endorsed McCain’s March 4th bill S.3081 that would strip Americans of Habeas corpus: Under the McCain bill, U.S. Government would need only designate an American Citizen was an “Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent” suspected of; having engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners; or purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or U.S. civilians to cause their indefinite detention in military custody, without right to an attorney or trial.

Joe Lieberman’s proposed bill would make it easy to strip Americans of their Citizenship and hold them as “Unprivileged Enemy Belligerents” as U.S. Government would only have to show a U.S. Citizen or group had slight-interaction with a foreign group that touched a terrorist organization, for example Irish Americans living on the east coast of the United States contacting their alleged IRA relatives in Northern Ireland. Since many political groups intersect, even unknowingly with alleged terrorists, Lieberman’s bill would make it possible for a U.S. Government administration to do large sweeps of U.S. Citizens denying Americans Habeas corpus, to try them in military tribunals. One might want to ask who put Lieberman up to introducing this fascist bill that favors Israel. It should be noted Joe Lieberman’s June 4th endorsement of McCain’s bill S.3081, The “Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention, and Prosecution Act of 2010” strips Americans of Habeas corpus; there appears to be a pattern here between McCain and Lieberman legislation. McCain’s bill S.3081 would eliminate several Constitutional protections allowing Government to arbitrarily pick up Americans on mere suspicion–with no probable cause. Your political opinions and statements made against U.S. Government could be used by Authorities to deem you a “hostile” “Enemy Belligerent” to cause your arrest and indefinite detention. S.3081 is so broadly written innocent anti-war protesters and Tea Party Groups might be arrested and detained just for attending demonstrations; Government could charge that attending demonstrations “materially supported hostilities.”
McCain’s legislation S.3081 could like Lieberman’s proposed bill be used by a corrupt U.S. government administration to crush anyone that dared question government. Under McCain’s S.3081, an “individual” need only be Suspected by Government of “suspicious activity” or “supporting hostilities” to be dragged off and held indefinitely in Military Custody. Government would have the power to detain and interrogate any individual including Americans without probable cause. Government need only allege an individual kept in detention, is an Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent suspected of; having engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners; or has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States; its coalition partners; or against U.S. civilians. How could one prove to Government they did not purposely do something? “Materially Supporting Hostilities” against the United States could include any person or group that spoke out or demonstrated disapproval against an agency of U.S. Government. It is foreseeable many Americans might go underground to Resist Government Tyranny. Definition for Unprivileged Enemy Belligerent: (Anyone Subject to a Military Commission)

At least under the Patriot Act, law enforcement generally needed probable cause to detain a person indefinitely. Passage of S.3081 will permit government to use “mere suspicion” to curtail an individual’s Constitutional Protections against unlawful arrest, detention and interrogation without benefit of legal counsel and trial. According to S.3081 Government is not required to provide detained individuals U.S. Miranda Warnings or even an attorney. It is problematic under McCain’s S.3081 that detained individuals in the U.S. not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings or allowed legal counsel will be prosecuted for ordinary crimes because of their alleged admissions while in military custody.

S.3081 if passed will frighten Americans from speaking out. S.3081 is so broadly written, it appears any “individual” who writes on the Internet or verbally express an opinion against or an entity of U.S. Government or its coalition partners might be detained on the basis he or she is an “unprivileged enemy belligerent”, “supporting hostilities against U.S. Government.” The “supporting hostilities” provisions in S.3081 are so broad Government could use “suspicion” to detain U.S. corporate executives on the premise their corporations “supported hostilities” by providing goods or services to a nation engaged in hostilities against the United States.

(Make Your Own Determination If The Analysis Herein Is Correct) See McCain’s 12-page Senate bill S.3081 at:
assets.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/ARM10090.pdf

Many of the students who walked out Thursday held Mexican flags as they left campus. The said they marching for respect and unity. ”

If you are offended by the American Flag, you are not an American. In our Baptist Churches in Texas there is very typically an American Flag up front on the stage on one side, and the “Christian” flag on the other. I saw a pic last year of one of the Spanish Speaking Churches here in Texas in one of the Missionary magazines. guess what flag was up front? The Mexican Flag. This is colonization!

“Mexican-American” is a lie. It would be more truthfull to just say “Mexicans”.

This reminds me of one of my co-workers whose wife is a teacher. The ‘hispanic” kids wanted to know why they did not get to say the pledge to the Mexican flag in school. idiots. see article below.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Students-Wearing-American-Flag-Shirts-Sent-Home-92945969.html

You might find this from one of the commenters at AoSHQ of interest (http://tinyurl.com/2bh8jl2):

The Key Case Law is on the side of Lieberman:

Citizenship in the United States of an enemy belligerent does not relieve him from the consequences of a belligerency which is unlawful because in violation of the law of war.