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		By: ELC		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/04/19/its-patriots-day/#comment-156723</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ELC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If anybody cares, I wrote about these anniversaries the past couple of days.

The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere
http://www.wesurroundthempa.org/?p=1356

(Including a reading of the famous poem by yours truly.)

The Shot Heard Round the World
http://www.wesurroundthempa.org/?p=1388]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anybody cares, I wrote about these anniversaries the past couple of days.</p>
<p>The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere<br />
<a href="http://www.wesurroundthempa.org/?p=1356" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.wesurroundthempa.org/?p=1356</a></p>
<p>(Including a reading of the famous poem by yours truly.)</p>
<p>The Shot Heard Round the World<br />
<a href="http://www.wesurroundthempa.org/?p=1388" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.wesurroundthempa.org/?p=1388</a></p>
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		By: Promethea		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/04/19/its-patriots-day/#comment-156633</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Promethea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the next few years, a lot more Americans are going to find themselves interested in the causes of the American Revolution.

The origins of the individual colonies is fascinating, as is the story of how they developed over time and became more and more alike, despite their various origins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the next few years, a lot more Americans are going to find themselves interested in the causes of the American Revolution.</p>
<p>The origins of the individual colonies is fascinating, as is the story of how they developed over time and became more and more alike, despite their various origins.</p>
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		By: Tatyana		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/04/19/its-patriots-day/#comment-156627</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatyana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you all so much for instructive and well-rounded opinions; I got most of my questions answered and much stimulus to investigate further. And so many books to read!

Special thanks - to Oblio and AVI; I, too, think the history is never clear-cut. Amazing amount of randomness, luck, sentiment and ideology play as important role as vector of economical and political forces. And it is never clear, &quot;in&quot; the historical moment, what direction is the most beneficial and just, let alone what course of actions is the right one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all so much for instructive and well-rounded opinions; I got most of my questions answered and much stimulus to investigate further. And so many books to read!</p>
<p>Special thanks &#8211; to Oblio and AVI; I, too, think the history is never clear-cut. Amazing amount of randomness, luck, sentiment and ideology play as important role as vector of economical and political forces. And it is never clear, &#8220;in&#8221; the historical moment, what direction is the most beneficial and just, let alone what course of actions is the right one.</p>
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		By: anna		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/04/19/its-patriots-day/#comment-156613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.constitutingamerica.org/

check it.  forgot where I first heard about this, probably american thinker. 

Also, I don&#039;t know if anyone is much into colonial williamsburg, and it is kind of hokey, but last time I went there the tour guide of the old capital building taught me more about the Rev. War than I learned in my 218 years of public school.  cool stuff.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.constitutingamerica.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.constitutingamerica.org/</a></p>
<p>check it.  forgot where I first heard about this, probably american thinker. </p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t know if anyone is much into colonial williamsburg, and it is kind of hokey, but last time I went there the tour guide of the old capital building taught me more about the Rev. War than I learned in my 218 years of public school.  cool stuff.</p>
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		By: Conrad		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/04/19/its-patriots-day/#comment-156602</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Conrad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The comment about how the Americans &quot;just wanted the British out&quot; rings true.  However benignly the Crown may have behaved toward the colonies (by historical standards), of what real use to America was the British government?  The colonies were both prosperous and largely self-governing.  Save for the remote possibility of a foreign invasion (wherein the British Navy would serve as a strong deterrent), the colonists derived little perceived benefit from their continuing political ties to the faraway British government.  George Washington saw nothing good in the arrangement from his own economic perspective and must have wondered why in the world the colonists would put up with even the pretense of subjugation to the Crown.

All in all, the Americans had figured out by the 1770s that they didn&#039;t really need the British around anymore.  Some people in Britain eventually realized this as well, but by then it was too late to unruffle the colonists&#039; feathers.  Once the independence sentiment got hitched to the Locke-Rousseau philosophical wagon, it was all over for the British except for the shooting.  As is often the case (see Civil War), the war itself served to galvanize popular support among those who were previously uncommitted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment about how the Americans &#8220;just wanted the British out&#8221; rings true.  However benignly the Crown may have behaved toward the colonies (by historical standards), of what real use to America was the British government?  The colonies were both prosperous and largely self-governing.  Save for the remote possibility of a foreign invasion (wherein the British Navy would serve as a strong deterrent), the colonists derived little perceived benefit from their continuing political ties to the faraway British government.  George Washington saw nothing good in the arrangement from his own economic perspective and must have wondered why in the world the colonists would put up with even the pretense of subjugation to the Crown.</p>
<p>All in all, the Americans had figured out by the 1770s that they didn&#8217;t really need the British around anymore.  Some people in Britain eventually realized this as well, but by then it was too late to unruffle the colonists&#8217; feathers.  Once the independence sentiment got hitched to the Locke-Rousseau philosophical wagon, it was all over for the British except for the shooting.  As is often the case (see Civil War), the war itself served to galvanize popular support among those who were previously uncommitted.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NeoConScum: those of us with citizenship in Red Sox Nation will agree to disagree with you. We will not convince each other. We cannot force exile to Nova Scotia these days.  :)

I grew up a Red Sox fan, with corresponding antipathy to that team in the Bronx. Under his high school yearbook picture, one friend listed his pet peeve: &quot;watching those Red Sox lose.&quot; Back then, that&#039;s what they did. Ironically, the only contact I had with a major league ballplayer was with a former Yankee, who was a student teacher at my high school.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeoConScum: those of us with citizenship in Red Sox Nation will agree to disagree with you. We will not convince each other. We cannot force exile to Nova Scotia these days.  🙂</p>
<p>I grew up a Red Sox fan, with corresponding antipathy to that team in the Bronx. Under his high school yearbook picture, one friend listed his pet peeve: &#8220;watching those Red Sox lose.&#8221; Back then, that&#8217;s what they did. Ironically, the only contact I had with a major league ballplayer was with a former Yankee, who was a student teacher at my high school.</p>
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		By: Bob from Virginia		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/04/19/its-patriots-day/#comment-156593</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob from Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scottie wrote &quot;This denotes anticipatory planning on the part of the colonists and speaks volumes as to where their heads were at the time, as it’s clear they were already figuring they were probably going to have to fight the British army.&quot;

Not only that but the actual tactics of a moving ambush, the type that was used on the British column returning from Concord, were worked out in advance by colonial military theorists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottie wrote &#8220;This denotes anticipatory planning on the part of the colonists and speaks volumes as to where their heads were at the time, as it’s clear they were already figuring they were probably going to have to fight the British army.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not only that but the actual tactics of a moving ambush, the type that was used on the British column returning from Concord, were worked out in advance by colonial military theorists.</p>
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		By: Scottie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scottie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I unfortunately was not able to devote much time yesterday to this conversation other than a short compliment to neo (I was dealing with a sick child), but I did want to point out something that most seem to have missed.

The obsolete method the colonists used to inform each other that the British army was on the move - as well as the response that notification created in the civilian population - had been set up previously as a specific response anticipating just such a move on the part of the British army.

This denotes anticipatory planning on the part of the colonists and speaks volumes as to where their heads were at the time, as it&#039;s clear they were already figuring they were probably going to have to fight the British army.

The Battles of Concord and Lexington were not something that came full blown out of a series of misunderstandings on that day, or even the previous weeks or months, but were rather the culmination of a series of actions and reactions between the British monarchy, British Parliament, and the American Colonists regarding the concept of liberty and self-rule.

I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who noted that the American Revolution had actually begun years earlier in the hearts and minds of the people - the shots being fired were simply the culmination of that thought process in the minds of the American Colonists when push came to shove.

As for your questions Tatyana, I&#039;m heartened you are taking such an interest in this subject - the more people who do, the better!

I would suggest a thorough reading of the Declaration of Independence, as well as researching the background information related to the individuals involved in the writing of that document.

While it was written after the first blood had been shed, it was also the single most important document at the time that clearly laid out the reasons and justifications for severing ties to Britain and it&#039;s monarchy, and provided rational reasons for the actions undertaken.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I unfortunately was not able to devote much time yesterday to this conversation other than a short compliment to neo (I was dealing with a sick child), but I did want to point out something that most seem to have missed.</p>
<p>The obsolete method the colonists used to inform each other that the British army was on the move &#8211; as well as the response that notification created in the civilian population &#8211; had been set up previously as a specific response anticipating just such a move on the part of the British army.</p>
<p>This denotes anticipatory planning on the part of the colonists and speaks volumes as to where their heads were at the time, as it&#8217;s clear they were already figuring they were probably going to have to fight the British army.</p>
<p>The Battles of Concord and Lexington were not something that came full blown out of a series of misunderstandings on that day, or even the previous weeks or months, but were rather the culmination of a series of actions and reactions between the British monarchy, British Parliament, and the American Colonists regarding the concept of liberty and self-rule.</p>
<p>I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who noted that the American Revolution had actually begun years earlier in the hearts and minds of the people &#8211; the shots being fired were simply the culmination of that thought process in the minds of the American Colonists when push came to shove.</p>
<p>As for your questions Tatyana, I&#8217;m heartened you are taking such an interest in this subject &#8211; the more people who do, the better!</p>
<p>I would suggest a thorough reading of the Declaration of Independence, as well as researching the background information related to the individuals involved in the writing of that document.</p>
<p>While it was written after the first blood had been shed, it was also the single most important document at the time that clearly laid out the reasons and justifications for severing ties to Britain and it&#8217;s monarchy, and provided rational reasons for the actions undertaken.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/04/19/its-patriots-day/#comment-156582</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to take a second to thank Tatyana for her questions, they are the reasons there is such good answers here!  without her questions, we would have putzed out and moved to someplace else. instead we got lessons of the details of why Americans (even those who came late to the party) have the feelings of freedom, economy, brotherhood, and all that such (which goes a long way to explaining her success, something that cheating really doesn&#039;t)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to take a second to thank Tatyana for her questions, they are the reasons there is such good answers here!  without her questions, we would have putzed out and moved to someplace else. instead we got lessons of the details of why Americans (even those who came late to the party) have the feelings of freedom, economy, brotherhood, and all that such (which goes a long way to explaining her success, something that cheating really doesn&#8217;t)</p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/04/19/its-patriots-day/#comment-156580</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two other excellent books by William H. Hallahan, The Day the Revolution Started and The Day the Revolution Ended.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two other excellent books by William H. Hallahan, The Day the Revolution Started and The Day the Revolution Ended.</p>
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