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		By: colagirl		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to say I strongly second E&#039;s recommendation of Firefly/Serenity.  The series is amazing.  Its first and only season is so clear-cut that I can only wonder what it would have achieved if it had been given a second, third or fourth season.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say I strongly second E&#8217;s recommendation of Firefly/Serenity.  The series is amazing.  Its first and only season is so clear-cut that I can only wonder what it would have achieved if it had been given a second, third or fourth season.</p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am supporting Obama for re-election.
I always wished I could have been around in 1776 and helped the US form.  Does anyone doubt that after 8 years of Obama the US will have to be rebuilt from scratch, OK a lot of what will need to be rebuilt may be radioactive, but hey the greater the challenge the greater the glory.

Come to think, four years may be more than enough to reach that point, we&#039;ll see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am supporting Obama for re-election.<br />
I always wished I could have been around in 1776 and helped the US form.  Does anyone doubt that after 8 years of Obama the US will have to be rebuilt from scratch, OK a lot of what will need to be rebuilt may be radioactive, but hey the greater the challenge the greater the glory.</p>
<p>Come to think, four years may be more than enough to reach that point, we&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Russian writer Maksim Gorky and his son. During the Trial of the Twenty One in 1938, NKVD chief Genrikh Yagoda admitted that he poisoned to death Maksim Gorky and his son and unsuccessfully tried to poison future NKVD boss Nikolay Ezhov. The attempted poisoning of Ezhov was later officially dismissed as falsification, but Vyacheslav Molotov believed that the poisoning accusations were true. Yagoda was never officially rehabilitated (recognized as an innocent victim of political repressions) by Soviet authorities.&lt;/i&gt;

ezhov... is the latvian who helped created the KGB... 

and OBAMA looks like him!!! 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ezhov.PNG

wiki doesnt list very many of them. and confirmed poisonings, like of stalin, are considered alleged. (but now we know as we have seen the archives to some degree). 

for instance, the wiki has polytskya, but not the man killed with polonium. 

The KGB&#039;s Poison Factory 
online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB111282082770699984,00.html

you can find the article outside the subscription if yo look...   its from 2005... 

4 years ago.. 

&lt;i&gt;Viktor Yushchenko was intentionally poisoned during Ukraine&#039;s presi dential election campaign last year.&lt;/i&gt;

he is the man in Becks &#039;documentary&#039; that tells of his family member suffering the soviets. 
and how he points out that the stories we think are exceptional are not, they are average and horrors.. 

&lt;i&gt;A team of American doctors that secretly flew to Vienna to assist Austrian colleagues in treating Mr. Yushchenko found a substance in his blood -- a highly toxic dioxin of the type 2,3,7,8-TCDD (Tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin) that a Russian laboratory had successfully experimented with a few years earlier. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Former Soviet spies and intelligence historians like myself, listening to the debate and taking note of the victim, the timing and the early confusion surrounding Mr. Yushchenko&#039;s symptoms, can speculate about the source with some authority. Even before the news that the poisonous compound had been found, we had already noticed uncanny similarities to the past work of the &quot;Kamera,&quot; or as KGB veterans might remember it, &quot;Laboratory No. 12&quot;. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Whatever its official name, Kamera&#039;s products -- poisonous biological and chemical agents -- have been constantly refined over the years as advancing science opens new possibilities and as Kremlin leaders have new requirements. They are highly specialized, tailored for each recipient to cause the desired effect -- usually death or incapacity -- in specific ways. But one thing in their desi gn is constant. They must make the victim&#039;s death or illness appear natural or at least produce symptoms that will baffle doctors and forensic investigators. To this end the Kamera developed its defining specialty: combining known poisons into original and untraceable forms. &lt;/b&gt;

and this is why polonium was used on a KGB defector recently, and here is a historical one

&lt;i&gt;the 1955 attempt on Nikolay Khokhlov, a defector from the KGB. He drank a cup of coffee at a public reception in Germany in 1957 and fell ill. In his blood the doctors found traces of thallium, a metallic substance commonly used as rat poison. But the appropriate treatment had little effect and it was not until weeks later when Khokhlov was close to death that ima ginative doctors at a U.S. Army hospital in Frankfurt found the hitherto undreamed-of answer. The thallium had been subjected to atomic radiation so that the metal would slowly disintegrate in the system, giving symptoms as common as gastritis as a patient slowly died of radiation poisoning. By that time, the thallium would have disintegrated and left no trace even for an autopsy.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Countless others -- literally countless, for who can count poison victims when no poison is detected? -- suffered this fate. I have identified more than a dozen examples through the years. The Chechen rebel leader Khattab was poisoned by the FSB in March 2004. A KGB agent poisoned the food of the Afghan leader Hafizullah Amin in December 1979. Trotsky&#039;s secretary Wolfgang Salus died mysteriously in 1957. The anti-Soviet emigr? writer Lev Rebet was thought to have died from a heart attack in October 1957 until the KGB assassin defected four year s later and told how he had sprayed a Kamera mist containing poisonous gas from a crushed cyanide ampoule into Rebet&#039;s face as he passed him on a stairway.  &lt;/i&gt;

without defection they would have not known how it was done. the son of the man, also learned years later what he was helping his dad do. 

and please..  
in this next paragraph... 
note the way they say whatever to get a percentage of the population to oppose another percentage of the population, and then think of nancy pelosi, the left ehre, and tea baggin

Russian intelligence veterans will also recognize, as I do, the characteristic campaign of Soviet-style &quot;active measures&quot; to confuse the issue. Officials in the government of Leonid Kuchma said that the candidate ate some bad sushi, or maybe caught a virus, or even disfigured himself on purpose to win electoral points. And they acc use the doctors and laboratories of &quot;medically falsified diagnoses.&quot; Former KGB Colonel Viktor Cherkashin, who handled the two notorious American traitors Robert Hanssen and Aldrich Ames, was recently quoted as saying, &quot;I have my doubts about whether Yushchenko was poisoned at all. It looks more like a dermatological problem.&quot; 


north korea also has labs, and so does china.  

we do not have the labs.  period]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Russian writer Maksim Gorky and his son. During the Trial of the Twenty One in 1938, NKVD chief Genrikh Yagoda admitted that he poisoned to death Maksim Gorky and his son and unsuccessfully tried to poison future NKVD boss Nikolay Ezhov. The attempted poisoning of Ezhov was later officially dismissed as falsification, but Vyacheslav Molotov believed that the poisoning accusations were true. Yagoda was never officially rehabilitated (recognized as an innocent victim of political repressions) by Soviet authorities.</i></p>
<p>ezhov&#8230; is the latvian who helped created the KGB&#8230; </p>
<p>and OBAMA looks like him!!!<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ezhov.PNG" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ezhov.PNG</a></p>
<p>wiki doesnt list very many of them. and confirmed poisonings, like of stalin, are considered alleged. (but now we know as we have seen the archives to some degree). </p>
<p>for instance, the wiki has polytskya, but not the man killed with polonium. </p>
<p>The KGB&#8217;s Poison Factory<br />
online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB111282082770699984,00.html</p>
<p>you can find the article outside the subscription if yo look&#8230;   its from 2005&#8230; </p>
<p>4 years ago.. </p>
<p><i>Viktor Yushchenko was intentionally poisoned during Ukraine&#8217;s presi dential election campaign last year.</i></p>
<p>he is the man in Becks &#8216;documentary&#8217; that tells of his family member suffering the soviets.<br />
and how he points out that the stories we think are exceptional are not, they are average and horrors.. </p>
<p><i>A team of American doctors that secretly flew to Vienna to assist Austrian colleagues in treating Mr. Yushchenko found a substance in his blood &#8212; a highly toxic dioxin of the type 2,3,7,8-TCDD (Tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin) that a Russian laboratory had successfully experimented with a few years earlier. </i></p>
<p><i>Former Soviet spies and intelligence historians like myself, listening to the debate and taking note of the victim, the timing and the early confusion surrounding Mr. Yushchenko&#8217;s symptoms, can speculate about the source with some authority. Even before the news that the poisonous compound had been found, we had already noticed uncanny similarities to the past work of the &#8220;Kamera,&#8221; or as KGB veterans might remember it, &#8220;Laboratory No. 12&#8221;. </i></p>
<p><b>Whatever its official name, Kamera&#8217;s products &#8212; poisonous biological and chemical agents &#8212; have been constantly refined over the years as advancing science opens new possibilities and as Kremlin leaders have new requirements. They are highly specialized, tailored for each recipient to cause the desired effect &#8212; usually death or incapacity &#8212; in specific ways. But one thing in their desi gn is constant. They must make the victim&#8217;s death or illness appear natural or at least produce symptoms that will baffle doctors and forensic investigators. To this end the Kamera developed its defining specialty: combining known poisons into original and untraceable forms. </b></p>
<p>and this is why polonium was used on a KGB defector recently, and here is a historical one</p>
<p><i>the 1955 attempt on Nikolay Khokhlov, a defector from the KGB. He drank a cup of coffee at a public reception in Germany in 1957 and fell ill. In his blood the doctors found traces of thallium, a metallic substance commonly used as rat poison. But the appropriate treatment had little effect and it was not until weeks later when Khokhlov was close to death that ima ginative doctors at a U.S. Army hospital in Frankfurt found the hitherto undreamed-of answer. The thallium had been subjected to atomic radiation so that the metal would slowly disintegrate in the system, giving symptoms as common as gastritis as a patient slowly died of radiation poisoning. By that time, the thallium would have disintegrated and left no trace even for an autopsy.<br />
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Countless others &#8212; literally countless, for who can count poison victims when no poison is detected? &#8212; suffered this fate. I have identified more than a dozen examples through the years. The Chechen rebel leader Khattab was poisoned by the FSB in March 2004. A KGB agent poisoned the food of the Afghan leader Hafizullah Amin in December 1979. Trotsky&#8217;s secretary Wolfgang Salus died mysteriously in 1957. The anti-Soviet emigr? writer Lev Rebet was thought to have died from a heart attack in October 1957 until the KGB assassin defected four year s later and told how he had sprayed a Kamera mist containing poisonous gas from a crushed cyanide ampoule into Rebet&#8217;s face as he passed him on a stairway.  </i></p>
<p>without defection they would have not known how it was done. the son of the man, also learned years later what he was helping his dad do. </p>
<p>and please..<br />
in this next paragraph&#8230;<br />
note the way they say whatever to get a percentage of the population to oppose another percentage of the population, and then think of nancy pelosi, the left ehre, and tea baggin</p>
<p>Russian intelligence veterans will also recognize, as I do, the characteristic campaign of Soviet-style &#8220;active measures&#8221; to confuse the issue. Officials in the government of Leonid Kuchma said that the candidate ate some bad sushi, or maybe caught a virus, or even disfigured himself on purpose to win electoral points. And they acc use the doctors and laboratories of &#8220;medically falsified diagnoses.&#8221; Former KGB Colonel Viktor Cherkashin, who handled the two notorious American traitors Robert Hanssen and Aldrich Ames, was recently quoted as saying, &#8220;I have my doubts about whether Yushchenko was poisoned at all. It looks more like a dermatological problem.&#8221; </p>
<p>north korea also has labs, and so does china.  </p>
<p>we do not have the labs.  period</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Futhermore, I think it is for the best that we stop designing, or even producing, any more nuclear weapons: Let the Chinese and Russians do their own R&#038;D for a change!&lt;/i&gt;

oh, they have... they have... 

not only that, did you remember that china can disarm our most important system. GPS? and we have no space shuttle to go up and fix it, unless our enemies (in such a situation) would rent us the platform... and dont forget that both china and russia recently rewrote their nuclear doctrines as well. anyone beside me remember? anyone remember how many nuclear weapons that russia has? and how many SMALL tactical nuclear weapons she has? 

it all depends on whether you include the ones in which the heads are off and can be put on again. 

if you do, then there could be as many as 40,000 devices... if your only looking at what can be fired today, or in a few days, then your looking at a third of that. 

&lt;i&gt;According to the Center for Security Policy and other think-tanks, US intelligence has never been able to ascertain the true size of the Russian strategic nuclear force and has issued estimates, which have consistently underestimated the size of the Russian nuclear force.&lt;/i&gt;

they have just upgraded yamentau mountain. and they have built more.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Foreign Missile Developments and the Ballistic Missile Threat through 2015&quot; reiterated the conclusion of past CIA reports in citing the Russian and Communist Chinese nuclear arsenals as the two greatest threats to this country. &lt;b&gt;A much downsized US strategic nuclear arsenal would be more vulnerable than ever to a disabling Russian nuclear first strike and would leave us even more likely to Russian nuclear blackmail.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; written during Bush era


but thats not the scary part. the scary part is that he has said that he wont retaliate if its biological... right? 

Soviet biological weapons program
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_program_of_biological_weapons

they were supposed to stop their developemetn when we stopped ours. 

however, they didnt... (ergo the escape of anthrax that killed hundreds, and which the false story of AIDS being from american labs was created. as i said, they ALWAYS equalize with their enemies by accusing them of doing what they are doing!! its a mental thing, they ALWAYS do this)

&lt;b&gt;In the 1990s, President of the Russian Federation Boris Yeltsin admitted to an offensive bio-weapons program as well as to the true nature of the Sverdlovsk biological weapons accident  of 1979, which had resulted in the deaths of at least 64 people [5]  Soviet defectors, including Colonel Kanatjan Alibekov, first deputy chief of Biopreparat from 1988 to 1992, confirmed that the program had been massive and still existed. In September 1992, Russia signed an agreement with the United States and Great Britain promising to end its bio-weapons program and to convert its facilities for benevolent scientific and medical purposes. [6]  Compliance with the agreement as well as the fate of the former Soviet bio-agents and facilities, is still mostly undocumented. [7]&lt;/b&gt;

so if they use any of that stuff...  

obama will not respnod with nukes

i guess he will try to field an invasion of russia by conventional means. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Futhermore, I think it is for the best that we stop designing, or even producing, any more nuclear weapons: Let the Chinese and Russians do their own R&amp;D for a change!</i></p>
<p>oh, they have&#8230; they have&#8230; </p>
<p>not only that, did you remember that china can disarm our most important system. GPS? and we have no space shuttle to go up and fix it, unless our enemies (in such a situation) would rent us the platform&#8230; and dont forget that both china and russia recently rewrote their nuclear doctrines as well. anyone beside me remember? anyone remember how many nuclear weapons that russia has? and how many SMALL tactical nuclear weapons she has? </p>
<p>it all depends on whether you include the ones in which the heads are off and can be put on again. </p>
<p>if you do, then there could be as many as 40,000 devices&#8230; if your only looking at what can be fired today, or in a few days, then your looking at a third of that. </p>
<p><i>According to the Center for Security Policy and other think-tanks, US intelligence has never been able to ascertain the true size of the Russian strategic nuclear force and has issued estimates, which have consistently underestimated the size of the Russian nuclear force.</i></p>
<p>they have just upgraded yamentau mountain. and they have built more.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Foreign Missile Developments and the Ballistic Missile Threat through 2015&#8221; reiterated the conclusion of past CIA reports in citing the Russian and Communist Chinese nuclear arsenals as the two greatest threats to this country. <b>A much downsized US strategic nuclear arsenal would be more vulnerable than ever to a disabling Russian nuclear first strike and would leave us even more likely to Russian nuclear blackmail.</b></i> written during Bush era</p>
<p>but thats not the scary part. the scary part is that he has said that he wont retaliate if its biological&#8230; right? </p>
<p>Soviet biological weapons program<br />
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_program_of_biological_weapons</p>
<p>they were supposed to stop their developemetn when we stopped ours. </p>
<p>however, they didnt&#8230; (ergo the escape of anthrax that killed hundreds, and which the false story of AIDS being from american labs was created. as i said, they ALWAYS equalize with their enemies by accusing them of doing what they are doing!! its a mental thing, they ALWAYS do this)</p>
<p><b>In the 1990s, President of the Russian Federation Boris Yeltsin admitted to an offensive bio-weapons program as well as to the true nature of the Sverdlovsk biological weapons accident  of 1979, which had resulted in the deaths of at least 64 people [5]  Soviet defectors, including Colonel Kanatjan Alibekov, first deputy chief of Biopreparat from 1988 to 1992, confirmed that the program had been massive and still existed. In September 1992, Russia signed an agreement with the United States and Great Britain promising to end its bio-weapons program and to convert its facilities for benevolent scientific and medical purposes. [6]  Compliance with the agreement as well as the fate of the former Soviet bio-agents and facilities, is still mostly undocumented. [7]</b></p>
<p>so if they use any of that stuff&#8230;  </p>
<p>obama will not respnod with nukes</p>
<p>i guess he will try to field an invasion of russia by conventional means. </p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah. Obama also committed to: 

1) televising the health care debates on C-SPAN, 
2) accepting public campaign finance
3) giving the American people five days to read every bill before he signed it,
4) closing Guantanamo, and
5) withdrawing troops from Iraq in 16 months.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty</i></p>
<p>Yeah. Obama also committed to: </p>
<p>1) televising the health care debates on C-SPAN,<br />
2) accepting public campaign finance<br />
3) giving the American people five days to read every bill before he signed it,<br />
4) closing Guantanamo, and<br />
5) withdrawing troops from Iraq in 16 months.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Nah…. It was a useful narrative for European leaders politically, but everyone knew the truth.&lt;/i&gt;

Lemme answer that better:

When faced with aggression from Russia, and now, Islamic Radicals, it was the wisest position for European nations to denounce us publically and support us privately, which they have always done.  They are on Russia&#039;s doorstep and they are full of Islamic Radicals.  They never had a choice: they know how feckless we truly are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nah…. It was a useful narrative for European leaders politically, but everyone knew the truth.</i></p>
<p>Lemme answer that better:</p>
<p>When faced with aggression from Russia, and now, Islamic Radicals, it was the wisest position for European nations to denounce us publically and support us privately, which they have always done.  They are on Russia&#8217;s doorstep and they are full of Islamic Radicals.  They never had a choice: they know how feckless we truly are.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Wasn’t Bush, for example, perceived as a cowboy, capable of something like that? And Reagan? It’s the perception that would possibly act as the deterrent, not the reality.&lt;/i&gt;

Nah....  It was a useful narrative for European leaders politically, but everyone knew the truth.

If we were capable of actually acting, Europe, Venezuela, Russia and China would have treated us more the way they treat Iran, instead of crapping on us all of the time.

As I&#039;ve said here before:   we are not even a paper tiger, &#039;cuz paper tigers don&#039;t have the need to be loved as the US does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wasn’t Bush, for example, perceived as a cowboy, capable of something like that? And Reagan? It’s the perception that would possibly act as the deterrent, not the reality.</i></p>
<p>Nah&#8230;.  It was a useful narrative for European leaders politically, but everyone knew the truth.</p>
<p>If we were capable of actually acting, Europe, Venezuela, Russia and China would have treated us more the way they treat Iran, instead of crapping on us all of the time.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said here before:   we are not even a paper tiger, &#8216;cuz paper tigers don&#8217;t have the need to be loved as the US does.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gray: you may indeed be correct, but I wonder if the entire world perceived it that way.  Wasn&#039;t Bush, for example, perceived as a cowboy, capable of something like that?  And Reagan?  It&#039;s the perception that would possibly act as the deterrent, not the reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray: you may indeed be correct, but I wonder if the entire world perceived it that way.  Wasn&#8217;t Bush, for example, perceived as a cowboy, capable of something like that?  And Reagan?  It&#8217;s the perception that would possibly act as the deterrent, not the reality.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the world is preparing to fight the US as the world fought Germany. 

&lt;i&gt;Is anyone in the Obama administration paying any attention to Vladimir Putin?

The Russian prime minister has just returned from his first-ever trip to Venezuela, with bear hugs for dictator-&quot;presidente&quot; Hugo Ché¡vez.

Russia and Venezuela signed no fewer than 31 agreements in twelve hours. Russia has already sold Ché¡vez $4 billion in military armaments, and now he has signed on for at least $5 billion more.&lt;/i&gt;

its interesting but now russia will be opening up the oil fields that were taken from the US and other western countries. 

&lt;i&gt;A consortium of Rosneft, LUKoil, Gazprom-Neft, TNK-BP and Surgutneftegaz received a 40 percent share in Junin-6, Venezuela&#039;s largest oil field with 52.68 billion barrels of oil. Moscow and Caracas also agreed to include the Russian consortium in the planned development of the Ayacucho-2, Ayacucho-3 and Junin-3 oil wells.


the sides signed a letter of intent to create a nuclear power station with a capacity between 200 megawatts and 500 megawatts.&lt;/i&gt;

hey! isnt that how the other states got nuclear bombs? dealing with russia for power? 

&lt;i&gt;On Friday, Putin reaffirmed Moscow&#039;s intention to supply a $2.2 billion, seven-year loan first discussed during last year&#039;s visit, while a source in the Russian delegation told reporters that Venezuela might use the credit line on Russian arms.
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Chavez had said he wanted to buy T-72-S tanks, Smerch multiple launch rocket systems, S-300 and Antey-250 anti-aircraft guided missile systems, although no new arms deals were signed Friday.

Venezuela has bought at least $4 billion in Russian arms since 2005, including Su-30 fighter jets.&lt;/i&gt;

they only have to light up the board at the same time during our elections... and voila..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the world is preparing to fight the US as the world fought Germany. </p>
<p><i>Is anyone in the Obama administration paying any attention to Vladimir Putin?</p>
<p>The Russian prime minister has just returned from his first-ever trip to Venezuela, with bear hugs for dictator-&#8220;presidente&#8221; Hugo Ché¡vez.</p>
<p>Russia and Venezuela signed no fewer than 31 agreements in twelve hours. Russia has already sold Ché¡vez $4 billion in military armaments, and now he has signed on for at least $5 billion more.</i></p>
<p>its interesting but now russia will be opening up the oil fields that were taken from the US and other western countries. </p>
<p><i>A consortium of Rosneft, LUKoil, Gazprom-Neft, TNK-BP and Surgutneftegaz received a 40 percent share in Junin-6, Venezuela&#8217;s largest oil field with 52.68 billion barrels of oil. Moscow and Caracas also agreed to include the Russian consortium in the planned development of the Ayacucho-2, Ayacucho-3 and Junin-3 oil wells.</p>
<p>the sides signed a letter of intent to create a nuclear power station with a capacity between 200 megawatts and 500 megawatts.</i></p>
<p>hey! isnt that how the other states got nuclear bombs? dealing with russia for power? </p>
<p><i>On Friday, Putin reaffirmed Moscow&#8217;s intention to supply a $2.2 billion, seven-year loan first discussed during last year&#8217;s visit, while a source in the Russian delegation told reporters that Venezuela might use the credit line on Russian arms.<br />
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Chavez had said he wanted to buy T-72-S tanks, Smerch multiple launch rocket systems, S-300 and Antey-250 anti-aircraft guided missile systems, although no new arms deals were signed Friday.</p>
<p>Venezuela has bought at least $4 billion in Russian arms since 2005, including Su-30 fighter jets.</i></p>
<p>they only have to light up the board at the same time during our elections&#8230; and voila..</p>
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		By: Gray		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Based on my years and years of experience in the military and working in defense, I can tell you that Obama&#039;s &quot;big announcement&quot; doesn&#039;t amount to anything:

&lt;i&gt;We haven&#039;t had the political will to used a nuclear weapon in defense or in retaliation for 40 years!&lt;/i&gt;

Having lost the political will to exist as an exceptional nation, or even win a war, it doesn&#039;t matter whether we have any nukes or not.  We are incapable of using them.  We have been for about 40 years.

Futhermore, I think it is for the best that we stop designing, or even producing, any more nuclear weapons:  Let the Chinese and Russians do their own R&#038;D for a change!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my years and years of experience in the military and working in defense, I can tell you that Obama&#8217;s &#8220;big announcement&#8221; doesn&#8217;t amount to anything:</p>
<p><i>We haven&#8217;t had the political will to used a nuclear weapon in defense or in retaliation for 40 years!</i></p>
<p>Having lost the political will to exist as an exceptional nation, or even win a war, it doesn&#8217;t matter whether we have any nukes or not.  We are incapable of using them.  We have been for about 40 years.</p>
<p>Futhermore, I think it is for the best that we stop designing, or even producing, any more nuclear weapons:  Let the Chinese and Russians do their own R&amp;D for a change!</p>
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