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		By: DavidD		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-154874</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It looks like she&#039;s wearing a babydoll to play tennis--it looks like something out of a Frederick&#039;s of Hollywood catalog.]]></description>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-153139</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All one has to do is attend a Fusca runway show... 
(i will send neo a few images)

and then one would understand that what this is, is an attempt to develop a culture by antithetical means. 

That african americans have had their identities removed, and so have been told that to be a part of american culture or western culture or european culture is to no longer be african. 

so what you see is this completely artificial cargo cultist version of pseudo Americanization. 

or you see, like a teenager, the development of culture defined by opposites to what your trying to not be.   

you can see the same thing in most extreme feminism where they rail about how buildings and missiles look like penis. where the women have decided that they are going to break away from male dominated society by redefining those things that are in it that they FEEL can be reinvented 

just so you dont think i am being kooky:
www.adequacy.org/stories/2002.5.16.143527.295.html

&lt;i&gt;
Luce Irigaray, the noted French feminist thinker, is probably most famous in American and/or/therefore Internet circles for having been metaphorically raped by noted rightwing nut and &quot;science wars&quot; Kulturkampf fighter Alan SoCal. In his book with Jean Baudrillard, &quot;Intellectual Impostures&quot;, SoCal upbraids Irigaray for her suggestion that &lt;b&gt;a feminist mathematics, working in a more intuitive sense with less emphasis on male concepts like &quot;proof&quot;, would revolutionise the world and solve hitherto insoluble problems.&lt;/b&gt;

Now the noted genius Stephen Wolfram has proved her right. &lt;/i&gt;

in feminist mathematics, one does not &#039;attack&#039; a problem. one does not &#039;reduce&#039; problems. 

all those icky male terms... 

anyway... back to the subject at hand... which is the same class consciousness bs as applied to race.

and so, in the absence of a real connection to real culture which in a way is an interface between our brains and the world, and a way to be able to interface socially given our brains ability to adapt. that is, sans brain adaptability, culture is no longer necessary. but if the brain becomes general purpose knowlege rule plumber, seeking out rules in a general sense rather than internally develop them in an instinctual sense, then culture and communication become more and more important to the functioning of the whole. 

sorry if that is completely antithetical to social sciences, but then again, Marx who is one of the inventors fo such, never sought to actually understand culture in a way that was respectful, they just wanted to know the controls and pinions of it so that they could grab the wheel and steer the car with no driver (society). 

this has led to some very very weird curiousities in the african community.  For instance, the blind faith in false ministers, who since Sanger wrote in hier autobiography were used to direct the black community. also how maintaining this antithetical cultural situation, creates an oil and water situation which is reflected in the economic differences between the people who practice it and those that don&#039;t. with the most successful of those that practice being entertainers promoting the same condition, and the most successful in those that don&#039;t, are people like ken chenault, who runs American express (people like obama have their own place)

this has also had them be susceptable to race games, and the invention of culture. it has allowed them to inject one thing or another as a cultural thing, and then not have the origins of it be known. 

for instance &#039;keeping it real&#039; comes from the theories of a side man to the frankfurt school that rarely gets mentioned. his theories that only HATRED and Violence are honesty...   

a more circumspect version of this comes from the idea that when people do what is culturally expected, they can hide things behind it. the man in a suit can be anyting, while the man as a biker, is limited to the honesty of that role, or the dishonesty of posing in that role. 

but the more detailed version is in the african community and they have no idea where its fron, and many cant even define it. but its logic is that if i punch you in the nose, i am more honest to you than if i smile and shake your hand. 

it injects an odd kind of paranoia... 

then there are the fake holidays, which again, people assume origins of, and not know. Kwanzaa is such a holiday, made up by a progressive (now islamic i think) affrican american, who went to prison for some really nasty things, and when came out, went into eduication like ayers did. 

kwanzaa was invented by Ron Karenga, in 1966.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All one has to do is attend a Fusca runway show&#8230;<br />
(i will send neo a few images)</p>
<p>and then one would understand that what this is, is an attempt to develop a culture by antithetical means. </p>
<p>That african americans have had their identities removed, and so have been told that to be a part of american culture or western culture or european culture is to no longer be african. </p>
<p>so what you see is this completely artificial cargo cultist version of pseudo Americanization. </p>
<p>or you see, like a teenager, the development of culture defined by opposites to what your trying to not be.   </p>
<p>you can see the same thing in most extreme feminism where they rail about how buildings and missiles look like penis. where the women have decided that they are going to break away from male dominated society by redefining those things that are in it that they FEEL can be reinvented </p>
<p>just so you dont think i am being kooky:<br />
<a href="http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2002.5.16.143527.295.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2002.5.16.143527.295.html</a></p>
<p><i><br />
Luce Irigaray, the noted French feminist thinker, is probably most famous in American and/or/therefore Internet circles for having been metaphorically raped by noted rightwing nut and &#8220;science wars&#8221; Kulturkampf fighter Alan SoCal. In his book with Jean Baudrillard, &#8220;Intellectual Impostures&#8221;, SoCal upbraids Irigaray for her suggestion that <b>a feminist mathematics, working in a more intuitive sense with less emphasis on male concepts like &#8220;proof&#8221;, would revolutionise the world and solve hitherto insoluble problems.</b></p>
<p>Now the noted genius Stephen Wolfram has proved her right. </i></p>
<p>in feminist mathematics, one does not &#8216;attack&#8217; a problem. one does not &#8216;reduce&#8217; problems. </p>
<p>all those icky male terms&#8230; </p>
<p>anyway&#8230; back to the subject at hand&#8230; which is the same class consciousness bs as applied to race.</p>
<p>and so, in the absence of a real connection to real culture which in a way is an interface between our brains and the world, and a way to be able to interface socially given our brains ability to adapt. that is, sans brain adaptability, culture is no longer necessary. but if the brain becomes general purpose knowlege rule plumber, seeking out rules in a general sense rather than internally develop them in an instinctual sense, then culture and communication become more and more important to the functioning of the whole. </p>
<p>sorry if that is completely antithetical to social sciences, but then again, Marx who is one of the inventors fo such, never sought to actually understand culture in a way that was respectful, they just wanted to know the controls and pinions of it so that they could grab the wheel and steer the car with no driver (society). </p>
<p>this has led to some very very weird curiousities in the african community.  For instance, the blind faith in false ministers, who since Sanger wrote in hier autobiography were used to direct the black community. also how maintaining this antithetical cultural situation, creates an oil and water situation which is reflected in the economic differences between the people who practice it and those that don&#8217;t. with the most successful of those that practice being entertainers promoting the same condition, and the most successful in those that don&#8217;t, are people like ken chenault, who runs American express (people like obama have their own place)</p>
<p>this has also had them be susceptable to race games, and the invention of culture. it has allowed them to inject one thing or another as a cultural thing, and then not have the origins of it be known. </p>
<p>for instance &#8216;keeping it real&#8217; comes from the theories of a side man to the frankfurt school that rarely gets mentioned. his theories that only HATRED and Violence are honesty&#8230;   </p>
<p>a more circumspect version of this comes from the idea that when people do what is culturally expected, they can hide things behind it. the man in a suit can be anyting, while the man as a biker, is limited to the honesty of that role, or the dishonesty of posing in that role. </p>
<p>but the more detailed version is in the african community and they have no idea where its fron, and many cant even define it. but its logic is that if i punch you in the nose, i am more honest to you than if i smile and shake your hand. </p>
<p>it injects an odd kind of paranoia&#8230; </p>
<p>then there are the fake holidays, which again, people assume origins of, and not know. Kwanzaa is such a holiday, made up by a progressive (now islamic i think) affrican american, who went to prison for some really nasty things, and when came out, went into eduication like ayers did. </p>
<p>kwanzaa was invented by Ron Karenga, in 1966.</p>
<p>[edited for length by n-n]</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-153052</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So there......]]></description>
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		By: Tatyana		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-153029</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On seemingly unrelated note: Neo, I stumbled across this &lt;a href=&quot;http://victoriabelanger.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jello blog from Brooklyn&lt;/a&gt;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On seemingly unrelated note: Neo, I stumbled across this <a href="http://victoriabelanger.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Jello blog from Brooklyn</a>!</p>
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		By: Old Rebel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-153028</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon, you gotta keep up with sports fashion!  

The outfit you mock is from the new tennis line of clothing designed by Dr. Frank-N-Furter of &quot;The Rocky Horror Picture Show.&quot;  

Oh, Venus!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, you gotta keep up with sports fashion!  </p>
<p>The outfit you mock is from the new tennis line of clothing designed by Dr. Frank-N-Furter of &#8220;The Rocky Horror Picture Show.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Oh, Venus!</p>
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		By: waltj		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-153025</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Cutesie&quot; just doesn&#039;t work on Venus.  She ends up looking like one of the crossdressers I sometimes see standing on streetcorners late at night around Jakarta.  Except they&#039;re more feminine than she is.  I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprise if &#039;roids were the cause.  

Didn&#039;t the sisters&#039; father get himself banned from matches a few years back because of his bizarre behavior?  Maybe that&#039;s why we don&#039;t see him much these days.  Don&#039;t miss him, either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Cutesie&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t work on Venus.  She ends up looking like one of the crossdressers I sometimes see standing on streetcorners late at night around Jakarta.  Except they&#8217;re more feminine than she is.  I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprise if &#8216;roids were the cause.  </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t the sisters&#8217; father get himself banned from matches a few years back because of his bizarre behavior?  Maybe that&#8217;s why we don&#8217;t see him much these days.  Don&#8217;t miss him, either.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-153017</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My friend Barbara has a What not to Wear feature from time to time in her blog.  If I could figure out how to do links in comments, I&#039;d send you some.  She does  not have that acute fashion sense herself, but relies on a friend who does. OTOH My wife, who has no friends so close that she&#039;d consult them on sartorial matters, has always dressed well, even on a sometimes very constricted budget. Just one more reason to admire her, as well as love her. (Our teen aged daughter is now her fashion critic, and has her mother&#039;s very good eye. She even tries to dress me better.  Silk purse, sow&#039;s ear, put &#039;em together as you may.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend Barbara has a What not to Wear feature from time to time in her blog.  If I could figure out how to do links in comments, I&#8217;d send you some.  She does  not have that acute fashion sense herself, but relies on a friend who does. OTOH My wife, who has no friends so close that she&#8217;d consult them on sartorial matters, has always dressed well, even on a sometimes very constricted budget. Just one more reason to admire her, as well as love her. (Our teen aged daughter is now her fashion critic, and has her mother&#8217;s very good eye. She even tries to dress me better.  Silk purse, sow&#8217;s ear, put &#8217;em together as you may.)</p>
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		By: Trimegistus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-153015</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A very athletic woman wearing a frilly babydoll dress winds up looking like a man in drag.  Whereas something sleek and bodyhugging would make her look like a superwoman.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very athletic woman wearing a frilly babydoll dress winds up looking like a man in drag.  Whereas something sleek and bodyhugging would make her look like a superwoman.</p>
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		By: will		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/03/30/venus-williams/#comment-153012</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder what&#039;s become of the old man?, he was a scary dude. The outfit, truly horrific.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what&#8217;s become of the old man?, he was a scary dude. The outfit, truly horrific.</p>
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		By: CZ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 11:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An man wearing a nightie. It&#039;s just soooo...San Francisco...]]></description>
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