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		By: tehag		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Bashing FDR is, like it or not, becoming second-nature to conservatives&quot;

Absolutely. It shouldn&#039;t be second-nature. It should be first-nature. No one but a conservative would object to FDR&#039;s incarceration of the Japanese.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bashing FDR is, like it or not, becoming second-nature to conservatives&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely. It shouldn&#8217;t be second-nature. It should be first-nature. No one but a conservative would object to FDR&#8217;s incarceration of the Japanese.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martyn, it is a fair caution flag to raise.  It is always possible that some less-guilty, or even not-guilty are mixed in, and care taken to treat decently even those who might not officially &quot;deserve&quot; such treatment by statute or treaty.

However, a closer examination suggests that the Grauniad&#039;s spin is not quite as advertised either.  This particular military lawyer has had quite an unusual career.  As mikemcdaniel notes above, her activities put her more in danger of the temptation of &quot;going native&quot; rather than &quot;selling out to The Man.&quot;  That&#039;s not proof, but the possibility remains.  Significantly, the &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; defense lawyers were suspicious of her &lt;i&gt;because she was a Republican.&lt;/i&gt;  That seems to say something about them as a class, then.  Of further interest is what Lt. Col Bradley does &lt;i&gt;not &lt;/i&gt;say.  Her focus is entirely on the &quot;but they can&#039;t prove it&quot; aspect.  She disguises that with clever advocacy, but read closely, and that is the message.  The chain of reasoning is: &lt;i&gt;They told me he was dangerous but he doesn&#039;t look it.  There isn&#039;t enough evidence to convict.  They held on to him anyway, and this can only be because they are evil and unfair, not because he is dangerous.&lt;/i&gt; Dunno about that.  People can indeed get carried away with power and authority, but I suspect if they really thought he was innocent and taking into custody mistakenly they would have been glad to send him on his way years ago.  Ask yourself what interest they would have in holding on to a person they thought was a mistake.

As to the attorneys, both sides are using some sleight-of-hand in their PR.  McCarthy&#039;s reasoning is: &lt;i&gt;I know these people, they are leftist ideologues.  Some unspecified attorneys in their number have done treasonous things.  Therefore we should regard them all as traitors.&lt;/i&gt; Well, that&#039;s weak, even if he does know the breed.

But the defense of them is equally bad. &lt;i&gt;It is possible to do this work for noble, civil liberties, precedent-setting reasons.  Therefore we should assume that.&lt;/i&gt;  That&#039;s nice in terms of formal or criminal accusations, perhaps, but when the defense decides to wage a PR battle in addition to the legal one, they invite PR attacks upon themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martyn, it is a fair caution flag to raise.  It is always possible that some less-guilty, or even not-guilty are mixed in, and care taken to treat decently even those who might not officially &#8220;deserve&#8221; such treatment by statute or treaty.</p>
<p>However, a closer examination suggests that the Grauniad&#8217;s spin is not quite as advertised either.  This particular military lawyer has had quite an unusual career.  As mikemcdaniel notes above, her activities put her more in danger of the temptation of &#8220;going native&#8221; rather than &#8220;selling out to The Man.&#8221;  That&#8217;s not proof, but the possibility remains.  Significantly, the <i>other</i> defense lawyers were suspicious of her <i>because she was a Republican.</i>  That seems to say something about them as a class, then.  Of further interest is what Lt. Col Bradley does <i>not </i>say.  Her focus is entirely on the &#8220;but they can&#8217;t prove it&#8221; aspect.  She disguises that with clever advocacy, but read closely, and that is the message.  The chain of reasoning is: <i>They told me he was dangerous but he doesn&#8217;t look it.  There isn&#8217;t enough evidence to convict.  They held on to him anyway, and this can only be because they are evil and unfair, not because he is dangerous.</i> Dunno about that.  People can indeed get carried away with power and authority, but I suspect if they really thought he was innocent and taking into custody mistakenly they would have been glad to send him on his way years ago.  Ask yourself what interest they would have in holding on to a person they thought was a mistake.</p>
<p>As to the attorneys, both sides are using some sleight-of-hand in their PR.  McCarthy&#8217;s reasoning is: <i>I know these people, they are leftist ideologues.  Some unspecified attorneys in their number have done treasonous things.  Therefore we should regard them all as traitors.</i> Well, that&#8217;s weak, even if he does know the breed.</p>
<p>But the defense of them is equally bad. <i>It is possible to do this work for noble, civil liberties, precedent-setting reasons.  Therefore we should assume that.</i>  That&#8217;s nice in terms of formal or criminal accusations, perhaps, but when the defense decides to wage a PR battle in addition to the legal one, they invite PR attacks upon themselves.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[there are times when only paranoics clearly see the situation, and everybody else are delusional.

 	
Only the Paranoid Survive: Book Preface

http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/bios/grove/paranoid.htm


its also comforting to know that paranoia is not only a mental problem state! 

that is, conditions can change ones outlook from one of unconcern to hyper-concern...  

those with a bit of such in response to changes circumstances, are exactly the people who survive!!! 

in books and studies about survivors, you find that they prepare...  and why do they prepare... they are paranoid abotu waht can happen... 

we call it cautious, but that is only context!!! 

that is, what one persons action of caution, is often seen as paranoia and a waste but the reasonable. 

this winter with the state benig so screwed up i gave thermal emergency blankets as a stocking stuffer. to be used in an emergency, which includes being stuck on a train for many hours with no heat, no way off, and not being dressed properly because you didnt anticipate a imperfect world.  (or if someone has an accident, the blanket can keep them warm and help against shock)

the point is that they were $2... they probably will not be used ever.  

but you can read a lot of stories (and watch them on the show about people that shold be dead), where the taking of an extra bottle of water, a pen knife, etc    made all the differences. 

if any of those blankets get used... even if just for shock at a car accident...  

it went from paranoia to prepared.  

my attitude with all this was to succeed, make my money, divide it amoung the world, and move around so that i am not home when things change. 

everyone around me thought that i was being greedy. they had already planned out their lives and knew the future so they said i was greedy for wanting more that that imagined future would need. 

now they are not so clear

and we are all going to suffer as i didnt do those things as they were too busy navel gazing, and playing with their Ids to do something. 

NOW the reality of life is hitting them and they want to do something, and there is nothing that can be done. 

there is no such thing as security
only opportunity]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are times when only paranoics clearly see the situation, and everybody else are delusional.</p>
<p>Only the Paranoid Survive: Book Preface</p>
<p><a href="http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/bios/grove/paranoid.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/bios/grove/paranoid.htm</a></p>
<p>its also comforting to know that paranoia is not only a mental problem state! </p>
<p>that is, conditions can change ones outlook from one of unconcern to hyper-concern&#8230;  </p>
<p>those with a bit of such in response to changes circumstances, are exactly the people who survive!!! </p>
<p>in books and studies about survivors, you find that they prepare&#8230;  and why do they prepare&#8230; they are paranoid abotu waht can happen&#8230; </p>
<p>we call it cautious, but that is only context!!! </p>
<p>that is, what one persons action of caution, is often seen as paranoia and a waste but the reasonable. </p>
<p>this winter with the state benig so screwed up i gave thermal emergency blankets as a stocking stuffer. to be used in an emergency, which includes being stuck on a train for many hours with no heat, no way off, and not being dressed properly because you didnt anticipate a imperfect world.  (or if someone has an accident, the blanket can keep them warm and help against shock)</p>
<p>the point is that they were $2&#8230; they probably will not be used ever.  </p>
<p>but you can read a lot of stories (and watch them on the show about people that shold be dead), where the taking of an extra bottle of water, a pen knife, etc    made all the differences. </p>
<p>if any of those blankets get used&#8230; even if just for shock at a car accident&#8230;  </p>
<p>it went from paranoia to prepared.  </p>
<p>my attitude with all this was to succeed, make my money, divide it amoung the world, and move around so that i am not home when things change. </p>
<p>everyone around me thought that i was being greedy. they had already planned out their lives and knew the future so they said i was greedy for wanting more that that imagined future would need. </p>
<p>now they are not so clear</p>
<p>and we are all going to suffer as i didnt do those things as they were too busy navel gazing, and playing with their Ids to do something. </p>
<p>NOW the reality of life is hitting them and they want to do something, and there is nothing that can be done. </p>
<p>there is no such thing as security<br />
only opportunity</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no problems with Joseph McCarthy. He destroyed Communist Party of America, which was openly stalinist and a formiddable force in 1950s. His alcoholism and paranoia are irrelevant to the fact, that he was factually right: there are times when only paranoics clearly see the situation, and everybody else are delusional.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problems with Joseph McCarthy. He destroyed Communist Party of America, which was openly stalinist and a formiddable force in 1950s. His alcoholism and paranoia are irrelevant to the fact, that he was factually right: there are times when only paranoics clearly see the situation, and everybody else are delusional.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;US Senate&#039;s top climate sceptic accused of waging &#039;McCarthyite witch-hunt&#039;&lt;/b&gt;

James Inhofe calls for criminal investigation of climate scientists as senators prepare proposal that would ditch cap and trade

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/01/inhofe-climate-mccarthyite


See how much a problem the correction of history to its factual record would be? they would lose a smear, a weapon that they beat on people that disagree with them (especially when they are right and have no defense against such truth or merit)

&lt;i&gt;The US Congress&#039;s most ardent global warming sceptic is being accused of turning the row over climate science into a McCarthyite witch-hunt by calling for a criminal investigation of scientists.

Climate scientists say Senator James Inhofe&#039;s call for a criminal investigation into American as well as British scientists who worked on the UN climate body&#039;s report or had communications with East Anglia&#039;s climate research unit represents an attempt to silence debate on the eve of new proposals for a climate change law. Inhofe&#039;s document ends by naming 17 &quot;key players&quot; in the controversy about CRU&#039;s stolen emails, including the Britons Phil Jones and Keith Briffa.

&quot;I think this is like a drag net, just to try and catch everyone whose name happens to be on this list. &lt;b&gt;It&#039;s guilt by association and I thought those days were over 50 years ago,&quot; said Michael Oppenheimer, of Princeton University, who is on the list of 17 scientists.&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;

if i had the money i would send him a copy of lattimores book, and a copy of the venona transcripts... I wonder if he has any relationship to ANOTHER pseudo spy from the manhattan project?  (he didnt spy, but he also didnt care who they placed in his office to do the job).  is it any wonder that a man who, like lattimore was and is complicit in this SCAM (in which every answer leads to the same conclusion)

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;It looks like a McCarthyite tactic: pull in anyone who had anything to do with anyone because they happened to converse with some by email, and threaten them with criminal activity.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

and lets see... is micheal a progressive/communist/socialist... (i know the answer, but here it is)

here, let his employer tell you
www.princeton.edu/step/people/faculty/michael-oppenheimer/

they tell you what he is with and involved in, and tiny amount of digging gets this

wws.princeton.edu/wws-news-magazine/winter02.pdf

&lt;i&gt;After a morning of panels discussing issues of race, class, gender, and sexual identity; working in communities of color; and legitimacy and issues of leadership, the weekend closed on Sunday with a luncheon speech from Robert Yasui MPA/JD-MPA/URP ’87, an attorney in Los Angeles. Yasui contrasted the experience of his immigrant Japanese grandfather who was interned by the U.S. government during the Second World War with the events of September 11 and the need for people of color to represent and serve in the public sphere in order to continue the spirit of progressive change, to challenge the status quo, and to
ensure civil liberties in the present and for future generations. Yasui said, “Be courageous and have vision. Stick to your values. Don’t be a moral coward. The bottom line is that you will reshape government, and in so doing you will reshape society. By your presence, you are effecting social change.”&lt;/i&gt;

so again.. the &#039;code&#039; words are there. progressive change. civil rights. reshape society. social change. so guess what? this is more like mccarthy than the person probably knows... as he is, like lattimore, a progressive/communist who works for a progressive organization, which has the name of one of americas most despotic presidents (who they dont teach about)

&lt;i&gt;Rick Piltz, a former official in the US government climate science programme who now runs the Climate Science Watch website, said Inhofe and others were getting in the way of scientific work. &quot;Scientists who are working in federal labs are being subjected to inquisitions coming from Congress,&quot; he said. &quot;There is no question that this is an orchestrated campaign to intimidate scientists.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

once again... its a grand conspiracy against them, and an inquisition.. 

how many scientist have we broken on the wheel today? 

&lt;i&gt;A university investigation largely cleared Mann of misconduct for his connection to the East Anglia controversy. However, a rightwing group in Pennsylvania are demanding further action.&lt;/i&gt;

anyone know about university investigations? 

they are show trials and games.. mean NOTHING as the people at the university all know the way the vote should go before they vote.  let a real grand jury do it...  after all, they and mann did break the law... and i am getting tired of this, on the left, break the law, and get a freebie. 

&lt;i&gt;Gavin Schmidt, a climate scientist at Nasa&#039;s Goddard Institute who is also on the list of 17, said he had seen an increase in freedom of information act requests. &quot;In my previous six years I dealt with one FoIA request. In the last three months, we have had to deal with I think eight,&quot; he said. &quot;These FoIAs are fishing expeditions for potentially embarrassing content but they are not FoIA requests for scientific information.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

what a screwed up argument.. first of all...  foia is not just set up to get science information... but ANY information.  and the point of it is to be able to ahve the employer of state entities (the people) be able to review the work of the people who take their tax money for such. and if you follow all of this, you would know that if they requested scientific information, they would not get it. IT WAS DESTROYED...  

that is, they took all that money, and they then threw away what the money was spent on... and when they were requested to turn over the data, they destroyed it. so now people want to know the actions of those who were in the employ.  they forget that they are in the employ of the people!  if they worked for a company using its own money, no one could request anything. so the man is an idiot with a degree that has no idea of the relationships that creates his whole world. 

&lt;i&gt;He said Inhofe&#039;s call for a criminal investigation created an atmosphere of intimidation. &quot;The idea very clearly is to let it be known that should you be a scientist who speaks out in public then you will be intimidated, you will be harassed, and you will be threatened,&quot; he said. &quot;The idea very clearly is to put a chilling effect on scientists speaking out in public and to tell others to keep their heads down. That kind of intimidation is very reminiscent of other periods in US history where people abused their position.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

no... destroying data, lying, ad homenim attacks and things created that environment... and he was complicit in that...   he has the attitude that he shouldnt get a ticket when everyone else was speeding too. and his point ASSUMES the premise that he is correct, honest, and such... he ISNT...  the very political ideology he subscribes to requires such dishonesty. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>US Senate&#8217;s top climate sceptic accused of waging &#8216;McCarthyite witch-hunt&#8217;</b></p>
<p>James Inhofe calls for criminal investigation of climate scientists as senators prepare proposal that would ditch cap and trade</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/01/inhofe-climate-mccarthyite" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/01/inhofe-climate-mccarthyite</a></p>
<p>See how much a problem the correction of history to its factual record would be? they would lose a smear, a weapon that they beat on people that disagree with them (especially when they are right and have no defense against such truth or merit)</p>
<p><i>The US Congress&#8217;s most ardent global warming sceptic is being accused of turning the row over climate science into a McCarthyite witch-hunt by calling for a criminal investigation of scientists.</p>
<p>Climate scientists say Senator James Inhofe&#8217;s call for a criminal investigation into American as well as British scientists who worked on the UN climate body&#8217;s report or had communications with East Anglia&#8217;s climate research unit represents an attempt to silence debate on the eve of new proposals for a climate change law. Inhofe&#8217;s document ends by naming 17 &#8220;key players&#8221; in the controversy about CRU&#8217;s stolen emails, including the Britons Phil Jones and Keith Briffa.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think this is like a drag net, just to try and catch everyone whose name happens to be on this list. <b>It&#8217;s guilt by association and I thought those days were over 50 years ago,&#8221; said Michael Oppenheimer, of Princeton University, who is on the list of 17 scientists.</b><br />
</i></p>
<p>if i had the money i would send him a copy of lattimores book, and a copy of the venona transcripts&#8230; I wonder if he has any relationship to ANOTHER pseudo spy from the manhattan project?  (he didnt spy, but he also didnt care who they placed in his office to do the job).  is it any wonder that a man who, like lattimore was and is complicit in this SCAM (in which every answer leads to the same conclusion)</p>
<p><i><b>&#8220;It looks like a McCarthyite tactic: pull in anyone who had anything to do with anyone because they happened to converse with some by email, and threaten them with criminal activity.&#8221;</b></i></p>
<p>and lets see&#8230; is micheal a progressive/communist/socialist&#8230; (i know the answer, but here it is)</p>
<p>here, let his employer tell you<br />
<a href="http://www.princeton.edu/step/people/faculty/michael-oppenheimer/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.princeton.edu/step/people/faculty/michael-oppenheimer/</a></p>
<p>they tell you what he is with and involved in, and tiny amount of digging gets this</p>
<p>wws.princeton.edu/wws-news-magazine/winter02.pdf</p>
<p><i>After a morning of panels discussing issues of race, class, gender, and sexual identity; working in communities of color; and legitimacy and issues of leadership, the weekend closed on Sunday with a luncheon speech from Robert Yasui MPA/JD-MPA/URP ’87, an attorney in Los Angeles. Yasui contrasted the experience of his immigrant Japanese grandfather who was interned by the U.S. government during the Second World War with the events of September 11 and the need for people of color to represent and serve in the public sphere in order to continue the spirit of progressive change, to challenge the status quo, and to<br />
ensure civil liberties in the present and for future generations. Yasui said, “Be courageous and have vision. Stick to your values. Don’t be a moral coward. The bottom line is that you will reshape government, and in so doing you will reshape society. By your presence, you are effecting social change.”</i></p>
<p>so again.. the &#8216;code&#8217; words are there. progressive change. civil rights. reshape society. social change. so guess what? this is more like mccarthy than the person probably knows&#8230; as he is, like lattimore, a progressive/communist who works for a progressive organization, which has the name of one of americas most despotic presidents (who they dont teach about)</p>
<p><i>Rick Piltz, a former official in the US government climate science programme who now runs the Climate Science Watch website, said Inhofe and others were getting in the way of scientific work. &#8220;Scientists who are working in federal labs are being subjected to inquisitions coming from Congress,&#8221; he said. &#8220;There is no question that this is an orchestrated campaign to intimidate scientists.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>once again&#8230; its a grand conspiracy against them, and an inquisition.. </p>
<p>how many scientist have we broken on the wheel today? </p>
<p><i>A university investigation largely cleared Mann of misconduct for his connection to the East Anglia controversy. However, a rightwing group in Pennsylvania are demanding further action.</i></p>
<p>anyone know about university investigations? </p>
<p>they are show trials and games.. mean NOTHING as the people at the university all know the way the vote should go before they vote.  let a real grand jury do it&#8230;  after all, they and mann did break the law&#8230; and i am getting tired of this, on the left, break the law, and get a freebie. </p>
<p><i>Gavin Schmidt, a climate scientist at Nasa&#8217;s Goddard Institute who is also on the list of 17, said he had seen an increase in freedom of information act requests. &#8220;In my previous six years I dealt with one FoIA request. In the last three months, we have had to deal with I think eight,&#8221; he said. &#8220;These FoIAs are fishing expeditions for potentially embarrassing content but they are not FoIA requests for scientific information.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>what a screwed up argument.. first of all&#8230;  foia is not just set up to get science information&#8230; but ANY information.  and the point of it is to be able to ahve the employer of state entities (the people) be able to review the work of the people who take their tax money for such. and if you follow all of this, you would know that if they requested scientific information, they would not get it. IT WAS DESTROYED&#8230;  </p>
<p>that is, they took all that money, and they then threw away what the money was spent on&#8230; and when they were requested to turn over the data, they destroyed it. so now people want to know the actions of those who were in the employ.  they forget that they are in the employ of the people!  if they worked for a company using its own money, no one could request anything. so the man is an idiot with a degree that has no idea of the relationships that creates his whole world. </p>
<p><i>He said Inhofe&#8217;s call for a criminal investigation created an atmosphere of intimidation. &#8220;The idea very clearly is to let it be known that should you be a scientist who speaks out in public then you will be intimidated, you will be harassed, and you will be threatened,&#8221; he said. &#8220;The idea very clearly is to put a chilling effect on scientists speaking out in public and to tell others to keep their heads down. That kind of intimidation is very reminiscent of other periods in US history where people abused their position.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>no&#8230; destroying data, lying, ad homenim attacks and things created that environment&#8230; and he was complicit in that&#8230;   he has the attitude that he shouldnt get a ticket when everyone else was speeding too. and his point ASSUMES the premise that he is correct, honest, and such&#8230; he ISNT&#8230;  the very political ideology he subscribes to requires such dishonesty. </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good and useful post mikemcdaniel.]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Compare Bradley&#039;s client with Kurnaz. Both went to Pakistan in 2001 to study their faith.  I wonder which page of AI&#039;s script that is from. It is obvious that Bradley understands nothing of the psychology of the cannonfodder AQ. She is a member of the victimology sect and she seems to think we should concern ourselves only with the Bin Ladens and ignore the foot soldiers who will take bombs onto the London subways or shopping malls.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compare Bradley&#8217;s client with Kurnaz. Both went to Pakistan in 2001 to study their faith.  I wonder which page of AI&#8217;s script that is from. It is obvious that Bradley understands nothing of the psychology of the cannonfodder AQ. She is a member of the victimology sect and she seems to think we should concern ourselves only with the Bin Ladens and ignore the foot soldiers who will take bombs onto the London subways or shopping malls.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, the US Army had Major Traitor Hasan.  The AF has LTC Yvonne Bradley....

The AF always is less of a &#039;hands on&#039; branch and prefers violence at a distance.

I doesn&#039;t mean the detainees are innocent, it means LTC Bradley has a racial chip on her shoulder and wants to get porked (in a halal fashion) by one of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, the US Army had Major Traitor Hasan.  The AF has LTC Yvonne Bradley&#8230;.</p>
<p>The AF always is less of a &#8216;hands on&#8217; branch and prefers violence at a distance.</p>
<p>I doesn&#8217;t mean the detainees are innocent, it means LTC Bradley has a racial chip on her shoulder and wants to get porked (in a halal fashion) by one of them.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[These lawyers are guilty of treason. As they are aiding and abetting a mortal enemy of the US. They should be summarily placed against a wall and shot. 

Failing that, it&#039;s time for the legal profession to be &lt;i&gt;nationalized&lt;/i&gt;. Pay them all public prosecutors salaries, its a win/win...lowers the debt, cleans out the deadwood by greatly reducing the number of lawyers and dramatically reduces frivolous lawsuits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These lawyers are guilty of treason. As they are aiding and abetting a mortal enemy of the US. They should be summarily placed against a wall and shot. </p>
<p>Failing that, it&#8217;s time for the legal profession to be <i>nationalized</i>. Pay them all public prosecutors salaries, its a win/win&#8230;lowers the debt, cleans out the deadwood by greatly reducing the number of lawyers and dramatically reduces frivolous lawsuits.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Lt Col Yvonne Bradley, US military lawyer has said:

    “I took on the role of military lawyer to Guanté¡namo detainees firmly believing that justice would be pursued and a full and fair trial would be had for all. This illusion quickly fell apart. &quot;&lt;/i&gt; Martyn from the land of dhimmi&#039;s 

It certainly did &quot;fall apart quickly&quot;, it took about 5 minutes: &quot;She remembers meeting a &quot;baby-faced&quot; young man who seemed quiet and shy.

&quot;I was thinking, &#039;This guy&#039;s supposed to be the worst of the worst; we&#039;re going to try him as one of the first 10 cases? What the hell are we doing down here in Guantanamo?&#039; &quot; She said she left Mohamed&#039;s cell feeling &quot;upset and confused.&quot;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/02/13/62151/an-air-force-lawyer-fights-to.html#ixzz0iJBHCamL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;An Air Force lawyer fights to free a Guantanamo inmate&lt;/a&gt;

Another leftist lawyer without the intellectual honesty to admit to her biases; her whole career has been defending death row inmates (all of whom are innocent) as a public defender. 

Her story is all over the left-wing blogs and the primary source of information about her is the McClatchy newspapers, who state: &lt;i&gt;&quot;An eight-month McClatchy investigation of the detention system created after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks has found that the U.S. imprisoned innocent men, subjected them to abuse, stripped them of their legal rights and allowed Islamic militants to turn the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba into a school for jihad.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; no bias there...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Lt Col Yvonne Bradley, US military lawyer has said:</p>
<p>    “I took on the role of military lawyer to Guanté¡namo detainees firmly believing that justice would be pursued and a full and fair trial would be had for all. This illusion quickly fell apart. &#8220;</i> Martyn from the land of dhimmi&#8217;s </p>
<p>It certainly did &#8220;fall apart quickly&#8221;, it took about 5 minutes: &#8220;She remembers meeting a &#8220;baby-faced&#8221; young man who seemed quiet and shy.</p>
<p>&#8220;I was thinking, &#8216;This guy&#8217;s supposed to be the worst of the worst; we&#8217;re going to try him as one of the first 10 cases? What the hell are we doing down here in Guantanamo?&#8217; &#8221; She said she left Mohamed&#8217;s cell feeling &#8220;upset and confused.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/02/13/62151/an-air-force-lawyer-fights-to.html#ixzz0iJBHCamL" rel="nofollow">An Air Force lawyer fights to free a Guantanamo inmate</a></p>
<p>Another leftist lawyer without the intellectual honesty to admit to her biases; her whole career has been defending death row inmates (all of whom are innocent) as a public defender. </p>
<p>Her story is all over the left-wing blogs and the primary source of information about her is the McClatchy newspapers, who state: <i>&#8220;An eight-month McClatchy investigation of the detention system created after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks has found that the U.S. imprisoned innocent men, subjected them to abuse, stripped them of their legal rights and allowed Islamic militants to turn the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba into a school for jihad.&#8221;</i> no bias there&#8230;</p>
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