If you’re rich, vote republican. If you care about people, go dem.

Ok, Escobar, then given the realities, here’s your very own personal “level of caring” test:

Given, 1] that the current quality of Medicare care is already not sustainable by Gov’t reimbursement for Medicare care – because the Gov’t fixes prices/reimbursement by paying only what it wants to, which amounts to a 50-70% reimbursement rate, so that the remainder of the current cost of current-quality Medicare care must be subsidized by anyone else who can pay, as partly reflected, for example, by “too high” Private Insurance premiums, which the Obama Democrat Plan, 2] also states it is going keep from being “too high”.

And given, 3] that the Obama Democrat Plan in fact promises to cut Medicare care reimbursement by a massive amount – they call it “saving by eliminating fraud and abuse”, but it’s really only more of the same inadequate reimbursement price-fixing.

Then your test result, Escobar, will be based upon whether you personally care enough to see what the effect of 1,2, and 3 will be upon the quality of care received by those who are totally dependent by law upon Medicare care – that is, upon anyone on Medicare.

Escobar, I submit that, no, you don’t care enough to figure out the actual effects of the Obama Democrat Plan. Right?

Of course you are completely misunderstanding (or pretending to misunderstand) the conservative position. Conservatives believe that there are certain things that should be run by the federal government (the military, interstate highways, some others) and that the rest are best left to private enterprise or local and/or state government. Some favor Medicare (which, after all, is a limited program and not a universal one) and some do not. You may notice also that much of what you list—fire departments, cops, schools, public libraries—fall into the category of local and/or state rather than federal government-run programs. But you don’t even bother to make that distinction; you’d rather make some spurious rhetorical point.

Following the link you so kindly provided brings up a bunch of old polls about doctors and single payer, as well as websites run by doctors who support single payer. In a quick perusal of the leading couple of pages of links, none of them appeared to be recent, and none of them involved the current travesty of an HCR bill. Face it, almost no one likes that bill—with the possible exception of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, and I’m not sure how fond of it they are, either.

GPs do favor a single payer system, in large numbers.

http://www.google.com/search?q=physician+support+for+single+payer

FWIW, I grew up with actual real socialized medicine. Care was rationed, there were no primary care physicians, just the doc on duty. If we overutilized care, my dad would have been called into the base commander to explain…oh what? Base commander??? Socialized medicine??? Yeah, it was the Air Force. Know what? The care wasn’t all glitzy and sexy but it was more than sufficient.

Don’t like BIG GOVERNMENT RUN PROGRAMS? OK, let’s do away with Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the armed forces, the interstate highway system, cops, firemen, public schools, public libraries, unemployment insurance…and the list goes on. I actually think that government IS able to run programs in a relatively efficient manner. I also believe that business is in the business of making money, NOT making my life better.

We are the last industrialized country in the world without universal health care…the very last. I am embarrassed.

I voted for Obama, I’ll vote for him again, and I’m voting straight dem ticket in the mid-terms even if the republican is a better choice. I’m sick to death of the crap spewing out of the republican talking heads and can’t believe how little the base understands that the party is all about big business WHICH HAS SCREWED THE LITTLE GUY every chance possible.

If you’re rich, vote republican. If you care about people, go dem.

She can’t bring herself to watch him [Beck] because her “peers” wouldn’t approve.

Yes, the problem is that she can’t even say she watched him, or bring up a point of debate from what she might attribute to him without getting dissed or semi-shunned. And if she watched him anyway, she might slip up when around her peers. Oh, the horror!