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		By: Bob from Virginia		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/16/obama-and-controlling-that-all-important-narrative/#comment-146575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob from Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NeoConScum, I like him too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeoConScum, I like him too!</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/16/obama-and-controlling-that-all-important-narrative/#comment-146247</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoConScum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was listening to excerpts of The Messiah&#039;s comments today on the 1-Year Adversity of the awful Porkulous Bill. It was nearly a trillion dollars of NOTHING and he claims there was no pork included. Proud he is of that alleged factoid. Anyone remember the $4.5-billion slotted for the honorable stand-up &#039;Ho Runners of ACORN,&#039;Yo?

The man is a smarmy, aloof, lying, neo-Marxist-Alinskyite ponzi schemer(see Steve&#039;s fine post above). A lying liar who lies.

Any questions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to excerpts of The Messiah&#8217;s comments today on the 1-Year Adversity of the awful Porkulous Bill. It was nearly a trillion dollars of NOTHING and he claims there was no pork included. Proud he is of that alleged factoid. Anyone remember the $4.5-billion slotted for the honorable stand-up &#8216;Ho Runners of ACORN,&#8217;Yo?</p>
<p>The man is a smarmy, aloof, lying, neo-Marxist-Alinskyite ponzi schemer(see Steve&#8217;s fine post above). A lying liar who lies.</p>
<p>Any questions?</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoConScum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 00:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daniel...I LOVE that quote ! Perfecto. Entirely descriptive of His Majesty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel&#8230;I LOVE that quote ! Perfecto. Entirely descriptive of His Majesty.</p>
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		By: Steve G		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/16/obama-and-controlling-that-all-important-narrative/#comment-146183</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The John Drew interview on Breitbart linked to above is very illuminating and raises a slew of questions.  Drew states that he was a committed communist at Occidental College where he met Obama.  At that time Obama was a very, very committed Marxist-Leninist, to an extent that Drew found unusual for one so young.  Drew also indicated that such rising stars of the left were most often surrounded by followers.  Obama was able to draw on the wealth of a friend while at Occidental to live a rather lavish life but, when the friend graduated, he moved on to Columbia as that life style was coming to an end.  Because he knew no one willing to support this high end life style at Columbia he led a very withdrawn existence.  Almost no one in his class at Columbia remembers him.  However, when he finally got to Chicago, his friends and mentors, such as Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers, were (not surprisingly) also committed Marxists, even though he later lied about the closeness of these relationships.  (The ease with which he was able to lie without further inquiry may be one of many reasons he holds us yokels in such contempt.)  That is the kind of people who he palled around with and who he felt (and still feels) comfortable being with.  And, since these relationships still exist, if not so openly, one can reasonably conclude that Obama is still the Marxist-Leninist he always was.

So, he gets to Chicago and meets a group of progressives who ultimately support his running for office.  (I am skipping stuff here to get to my point.)   He is introduced to the people who now make up the Chicago Obami in the White House.  But, if he never gave up his childhood radical politics, one has to question whether any one in this White House crew has any influence with him or whether he seeks more radical advice (and, if so, from whom)?  (In fact, does he view his Obami as nothing more than &quot;useful idiots&quot;?)  Jonah Goldberg had a very funny piece on NRO on the new narrative strategy calling it more cowbell.  

But, something horrible is happening.  As Obama loses public support he does not seek competent and helpful advisors form the DNC.  Rather, he goes more heavily into campaign mode.  Is anyone running the country?  Is there ONE ADULT who he can turn to for good advice?

Obama has still not left NYC off the &quot;terrorist trial hook&quot;.  He is still pushing his healthcare bill (and he still does not even have a healthcare bill of his own to push).   All the polls are screaming that Obama should now be focusing on jobs and the economy.  But he dithers.  

For whatever bad reason, Obama is not doing the politically astute thing to do.  This is not how a typical Democrat would deal with this situation.  (My view is that Democrats want power because they think they are smarter than Republicans and know how to use it.  That is, until they get it.)  This dithering (almost a refusal to address the real issues at hand) puts at risk not only the power of the Democrat party to control Congress (and the legislative agenda and federal budget), but his own power as well.  If he is throwing the Democrat party to the wolves in order to make a Clinton-like comeback, he does not seem capable of actually governing from the center, as he said he would do in his campaign.  Otherwise, he would be doing that now.

My sense is that he cares no more for the Democrat party than for the Republican.  He is still a dedicated Marxist-Leninist at heart and will use any means, democratic or otherwise, to maintain his power.  If the Democrats fail, so be it.  He can do a lot of damage through the regulatory process and who knows what else he has in mind.  So long as Nancy Pelosi (the epitomy of aggressive political stupidity but a genius at manipulating people) remains the Leader of the House, it will not be likely that Congress will pass overriding legislation with veto-proof majorities.  

We may have a rocky year ahead of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The John Drew interview on Breitbart linked to above is very illuminating and raises a slew of questions.  Drew states that he was a committed communist at Occidental College where he met Obama.  At that time Obama was a very, very committed Marxist-Leninist, to an extent that Drew found unusual for one so young.  Drew also indicated that such rising stars of the left were most often surrounded by followers.  Obama was able to draw on the wealth of a friend while at Occidental to live a rather lavish life but, when the friend graduated, he moved on to Columbia as that life style was coming to an end.  Because he knew no one willing to support this high end life style at Columbia he led a very withdrawn existence.  Almost no one in his class at Columbia remembers him.  However, when he finally got to Chicago, his friends and mentors, such as Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers, were (not surprisingly) also committed Marxists, even though he later lied about the closeness of these relationships.  (The ease with which he was able to lie without further inquiry may be one of many reasons he holds us yokels in such contempt.)  That is the kind of people who he palled around with and who he felt (and still feels) comfortable being with.  And, since these relationships still exist, if not so openly, one can reasonably conclude that Obama is still the Marxist-Leninist he always was.</p>
<p>So, he gets to Chicago and meets a group of progressives who ultimately support his running for office.  (I am skipping stuff here to get to my point.)   He is introduced to the people who now make up the Chicago Obami in the White House.  But, if he never gave up his childhood radical politics, one has to question whether any one in this White House crew has any influence with him or whether he seeks more radical advice (and, if so, from whom)?  (In fact, does he view his Obami as nothing more than &#8220;useful idiots&#8221;?)  Jonah Goldberg had a very funny piece on NRO on the new narrative strategy calling it more cowbell.  </p>
<p>But, something horrible is happening.  As Obama loses public support he does not seek competent and helpful advisors form the DNC.  Rather, he goes more heavily into campaign mode.  Is anyone running the country?  Is there ONE ADULT who he can turn to for good advice?</p>
<p>Obama has still not left NYC off the &#8220;terrorist trial hook&#8221;.  He is still pushing his healthcare bill (and he still does not even have a healthcare bill of his own to push).   All the polls are screaming that Obama should now be focusing on jobs and the economy.  But he dithers.  </p>
<p>For whatever bad reason, Obama is not doing the politically astute thing to do.  This is not how a typical Democrat would deal with this situation.  (My view is that Democrats want power because they think they are smarter than Republicans and know how to use it.  That is, until they get it.)  This dithering (almost a refusal to address the real issues at hand) puts at risk not only the power of the Democrat party to control Congress (and the legislative agenda and federal budget), but his own power as well.  If he is throwing the Democrat party to the wolves in order to make a Clinton-like comeback, he does not seem capable of actually governing from the center, as he said he would do in his campaign.  Otherwise, he would be doing that now.</p>
<p>My sense is that he cares no more for the Democrat party than for the Republican.  He is still a dedicated Marxist-Leninist at heart and will use any means, democratic or otherwise, to maintain his power.  If the Democrats fail, so be it.  He can do a lot of damage through the regulatory process and who knows what else he has in mind.  So long as Nancy Pelosi (the epitomy of aggressive political stupidity but a genius at manipulating people) remains the Leader of the House, it will not be likely that Congress will pass overriding legislation with veto-proof majorities.  </p>
<p>We may have a rocky year ahead of us.</p>
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		By: Daniel in Brookline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel in Brookline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NeoConScum:

I&#039;m reminded of Abraham Lincoln, saying about a political opponent (perhaps Stephen Douglas, although I&#039;m not sure):

&quot;He can compress more words into a smaller idea than any other man I ever met.&quot;


CV: I agree.  President Obama knows he is in trouble, and so he&#039;s falling back on his strength, the technique that&#039;s always helped him in the past: blame other people and talk, talk, talk.  (He doesn&#039;t seem to know that this accounts for a lot of the trouble he&#039;s in; he may not even realize that he&#039;s doubling down on a failed strategy.)

He will no doubt continue to try to control the narrative.  But the narrative is beyond his control; we have other sources than him and his trained lapdogs, and we&#039;ve been using them.

He may yet find the day when he gives a major policy speech, and discovers, to his dismay, that he&#039;s orating to an empty hall.

respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeoConScum:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of Abraham Lincoln, saying about a political opponent (perhaps Stephen Douglas, although I&#8217;m not sure):</p>
<p>&#8220;He can compress more words into a smaller idea than any other man I ever met.&#8221;</p>
<p>CV: I agree.  President Obama knows he is in trouble, and so he&#8217;s falling back on his strength, the technique that&#8217;s always helped him in the past: blame other people and talk, talk, talk.  (He doesn&#8217;t seem to know that this accounts for a lot of the trouble he&#8217;s in; he may not even realize that he&#8217;s doubling down on a failed strategy.)</p>
<p>He will no doubt continue to try to control the narrative.  But the narrative is beyond his control; we have other sources than him and his trained lapdogs, and we&#8217;ve been using them.</p>
<p>He may yet find the day when he gives a major policy speech, and discovers, to his dismay, that he&#8217;s orating to an empty hall.</p>
<p>respectfully,<br />
Daniel in Brookline</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama has gone from messiah to pariah in one year. Never again can we say he doesn&#039;t have noteworthy accomplishments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has gone from messiah to pariah in one year. Never again can we say he doesn&#8217;t have noteworthy accomplishments.</p>
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		By: Roy Lofquist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Lofquist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Famous last words of the VP, Marketing at Ford:

&quot;Maybe if we put a little more chrome on the bumper the Edsel will sell&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Famous last words of the VP, Marketing at Ford:</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe if we put a little more chrome on the bumper the Edsel will sell&#8221;.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoConScum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What America needs is to hear more from Bammy &#038; Co. They haven&#039;t communicated to us rubes enuf--ya know, in the gab we unnerstan&#039;--and we MUST have more.

Has any president in American history blathered, addressed, interviewed(controlled)and generally filled the air with more words than this one? I think not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What America needs is to hear more from Bammy &amp; Co. They haven&#8217;t communicated to us rubes enuf&#8211;ya know, in the gab we unnerstan&#8217;&#8211;and we MUST have more.</p>
<p>Has any president in American history blathered, addressed, interviewed(controlled)and generally filled the air with more words than this one? I think not.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Neo,

This could actually be a big change for Obama, though I doubt it.

Obama&#039;s tactic for the first year was to let Congress write all the bills, and then pretend that they were his.  This meant that Barak&#039;s speeches never really defended the actual laws which were being written, see he didn&#039;t write them.  He just spoke in platitudes to support someone else&#039;s legislation.  This was designed to protect him to some extent, because he was not directly responsible for the bills which were written.  This was somewhat dishonest, in that his staff was directly involved in writing the bills, but that was hidden.

If the White House staff is going to write new proposed legislation directly, that will be a change.  But I doubt it will increase his popularity any.  It will probably decrease it.

James]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neo,</p>
<p>This could actually be a big change for Obama, though I doubt it.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s tactic for the first year was to let Congress write all the bills, and then pretend that they were his.  This meant that Barak&#8217;s speeches never really defended the actual laws which were being written, see he didn&#8217;t write them.  He just spoke in platitudes to support someone else&#8217;s legislation.  This was designed to protect him to some extent, because he was not directly responsible for the bills which were written.  This was somewhat dishonest, in that his staff was directly involved in writing the bills, but that was hidden.</p>
<p>If the White House staff is going to write new proposed legislation directly, that will be a change.  But I doubt it will increase his popularity any.  It will probably decrease it.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 05:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pissed ? :)

It looked more like the classic school teacher&#039;s &quot;I&#039;ll wait until you are done goofing off&quot; look. 

Every school teacher had that trick in their bag of tricks when I was growing up. It worked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pissed ? 🙂</p>
<p>It looked more like the classic school teacher&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8217;ll wait until you are done goofing off&#8221; look. </p>
<p>Every school teacher had that trick in their bag of tricks when I was growing up. It worked.</p>
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