Comments on: Palin: out with the “in”-crowd https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/ A blog about political change, among other things Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:57:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: nyomythus https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145969 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:57:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145969 ***********

…My weekend computer is restricted from posting on this blog, so my replies won’t be seen. This one will, not the others…

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]]> By: Immanuel Goldstein https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145716 Sun, 14 Feb 2010 06:44:54 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145716 What I find interesting about Palin Derangement syndrome is how phony and trumped up it is. If she had done everything exactly the same, but had been a democrat, they would be singing her praises, and call her the future of the party. But because she is from THAT OTHER PARTY, they feel fre we to destroy her politically, drive her into bankruptsy, destroy her marriage, destroy her family, destroy her family. If they thought that they could put a bullet in her brain, they would do that. And for good measure put a bullet in Trig’s brain too. Not let that poor child live to adulthood. Because they think of politics not as a disagreement over policy, but as total war. They are nothing more than party hacks. They practice Alinskyism on steroids. They posit ethical positions that nobody could live up to, but have no standards at all on their side. Democrats can rape, plunder, and kill and they will bless it. If a Republican so much as sneezes, they will scream ethical violations. They lack intellectual honesty, and are not worth debating, as you would with most normal people. These people are scum. They are only to be destroyed.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145687 Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:40:54 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145687 ConsideringTodd P’s work in in the oil biz, and the family-owned commercial fishing business, it would seem the Palins have more private sector experience than Obama and his cabinet combined.
And commercial fishing in that area requires both physical courage and financial courage.
I’d like to see the cabinet rustle up that amount of either, forgetting both, between them.

]]> By: Baklava https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145599 Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:23:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145599 This is what Nyo voted for

http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2010/02/12/test-of-anti-missile-airborne-laser-is-successful/

It’s a certain religion that Obama has. 🙂

]]> By: Baklava https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145598 Sat, 13 Feb 2010 07:04:57 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145598 Nyo and Neo,

Valid criticism is the key phrase.

We are realists when we say Palin had more experience than Obama – yet the supporters of Obama (like Nyo) un-abashedly hammered Palin for her experience.

It was sick.

I think ALL of us would like someone who has the temperament and experience and wisdom to make good decisions as president.

Obama had none. Palin had some.

Watch Meg Whitman (who is running for CA governor) get Palinized.

]]> By: rickl https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145561 Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:37:02 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145561 Some good comments on this thread. There’s not a whole lot I can add, except to point out that way back in mid-September 2008 I commented on another blog: “PDS has already gotten worse in two weeks than BDS did in eight years.”

As regards the Palin haters, I would just observe that anyone whose reaction to a fundamentally decent and wholesome person is blind sputtering rage has a real problem.

]]> By: Geoffrey Britain https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145524 Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:25:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145524 Probably every conservative, most independents and quite a few Democrats agree that the personal attacks on Palin are and have been completely disproportionate to anything she’s said or done.

Thus, all the talk about her accent, hunting, education, lack of experience, support for drilling, pro-life support, being a strong Christian and even her positions on the issues are but surface objections to her, all of the ‘reasons’ given are superfluous. For those ‘reasons’ are not proportional to any threat that “a soccer mom from Wasilla, AK” could conceivably represent.

They are simply cover, for a much deeper objection to Sarah Palin.

It’s not a conscious objection, as others have mentioned, the hate runs much deeper than that. It is something subconscious that they sense about her and it literally terrifies them. They sense extreme danger and a mortal threat.

It’s not Sarah Palin the individual that they hate, it’s what she represents; an existential threat to the supporting philosophical premises upon which feminism, liberalism and post-modernism rely and without which, they collapse.

Sarah Palin represents a mortal threat to the supporting core base for liberals, leftists and the ruling elite of the Democrat’s party.

Because that threat is so fundamental, it cannot be consciously faced by them because to do so would require examining their own premises, something we all know almost all liberals are unwilling to do because their premises cannot withstand rational scrutiny. Liberalism is all about feelings not rationality.

Thus they sense subconsciously the threat but lack the conscious analysis to squarely face the true nature of the threat Sarah Palin represents.

Accordingly, all that leaves them is surface complaints such as her accent and inexperience necessarily defined as stupidity because inexperience can lessen over time but ‘there’s no cure for stupidity’ which if accepted as true of Palin, eliminates the threat…

This is all about eliminating the threat, a mortal threat that cannot be consciously faced but is inescapably sensed subconsciously and thus the hate and abuse.

Exactly like how liberals perceived Reagan…because he was a mortal threat too.

]]> By: Sergey https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145501 Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:25:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145501 What I still cannot grasp is a wildly exagerrated, hysterical overreaction of the many pundits. Liberals behave as if sky is falling, imaging themselves as defendants of besieged castle. In reality they have all commanding heights at their disposal: both houses, presidency, MSM and academia. Why these cries “Barbarians at the gates!”? Why portray polite middle-class comers of Tea Parties as belligerent vigilanties? May be, they feel that their worldview is crumbling, due the mere fact of growing protest movement? But this movement is not wide enough even for direct political challenge, and nowhere close to mass rebellion.

]]> By: Tatyana https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145493 Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:10:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145493 Jamie and Beverly: thank you for your comments. Too true!

I, too, doubt that Mrs.Palin is a perfect choice as a Presidential candidate; she was, however, the only reason I voted in last election. (McCain wasn’t my choice; if it was up to me, I would keep Thompson in the race).
Still, she’s a sincere, genuine self-made quintessentially American woman – a rare bird in US politics. A few days ago I caught her talking on CSPAN (don’t remember on what occasion) – her accent sounded strange, but not illegible as liberals claim, and her ideas and delivery were superb.

The hatred she inspires in liberals is real and scary; I’ve seen my former boss, a partner of a successful mid-size architectural firm, an educated and normally restrained person, was getting red in the neck while spewing disgusting comments about her and her family.
But here’s my bit of caution: the same bonding mechanism that unites her haters might work on this side of the divide, transforming into unquestioning love for her – as a reaction to that hatred. And that might make her loose the criticism necessary for improvement. And she does needs to improve, if she has any aspirations for a high position in a future Administration (I’m not going to speculate on which position – it’s too prematurely).
I agree with *relieveddebtor’s post– btw, his opinion, of a priest and devout Christian (I am neither) should be interesting to most of the commentators here.

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145492 Fri, 12 Feb 2010 19:08:46 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/11/palin-out-with-the-in-crowd/#comment-145492 nyo, I think there is a fair bit of uncertainty and criticism of Palin, even among her general supporters. There’s no deification here. But when people decide someone’s a net positve, their evaluations tend to have a net positive tone.

I think the shoe is entirely on the other foot, that her critics can not even choke out polite, insincere praise for her accomplishments.

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