Comments on: Is Holder about to be tossed? https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/ A blog about political change, among other things Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:26:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.1 By: RickZ https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-145038 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:26:07 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-145038 While I think Obama and Holder are on the same page ideologically, I also think Obama has no friends, not even Michelle, which is why Obama can and will throw Holder under that bus. I think Obama views everyone as a prop and how that prop will aid him in his goals (like having a black wife, whom he married in a black church, and where he had his two black daughters baptized). I’m not sure we’ve ever had a more mercenary president.

]]> By: Oh, bother https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144952 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:44:26 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144952 If (per huxley) the wheels are coming off this administration then the next guy to be thrown under the bus is gonna hurt. huxley, this opinion’s for you: If Holder’s next letter is as well-written and reasoned as was the letter he wrote Mitch McConnell, he’s going under the bus, and it’s gonna hurt.

]]> By: expat https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144904 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:01:45 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144904 VDH is calling for Brennan to go. That move could give Holder a bit of cover for a while. I personally would prefer to see that whole bunch go,

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWM3ZmFjNDFkNGY4MjY4MzE4MTZiOGIwN2U1OTZmZTY=

]]> By: Occam's Beard https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144888 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:47:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144888 Fair enough, Geoff. For my part, obviously I could be wrong. I’m staking out an extreme position based on my guess that the choice of the KSM venue will drive events, and will have to take place before the midterm elections.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how this plays out…

]]> By: Geoffrey Britain https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144869 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:47:02 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144869 You might be right Occam, I suspect we would all acknowledge that, it’s more a matter of assessing the odds with the understanding that external events could overturn the applecart and create a whole new paradigm.

If nothing untoward should happen, some of us assess Holder’s likelihood of surviving past the midterms as probable. Which is not to say that we don’t hope you’re right; I certainly do… Holder’s an affront to all that America’s best have aspired to…

]]> By: Occam's Beard https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144857 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:17:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144857 You’re the man for me, sir. No beating about the bush, right to the point.

Yeah, hux, I’m too stupid to equivocate. My reasoning is that Obama will have to make some decision by November, that that decision will entail moving the KSM trial back to Gitmo, and that that will necessitate that Holder take one for the team.

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144855 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:01:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144855 OK, I’ll nail my colors to the mast. Holder: an unemployment statistic by the midterm election.

Occam’s Beard: You’re the man for me, sir. No beating about the bush, right to the point. Let’s talk about the black bird, by all means.

Er… sorry … spaced out for a moment there.

But yes, I appreciate the straight talk and straight wagering.

I’ll dive in and say that Holder will survive ’til after the mid-terms.

But after that I think Obama may grow so desperate that anything could happen, even to his inner circle and Holder.

]]> By: Occam's Beard https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144851 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:55:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144851 I think they give Obama too much credit for being a hard-nosed politician.

Agreed, but it’s nothing to do with Obama. Soros will make a phone call. Holder will clean out his desk. Eight ball in the side pocket. Obama is only the cue ball, nothing more.

]]> By: Occam's Beard https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144848 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:38:11 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144848 Geoff, Napolitano and Jennings are indeed vulnerable, but Obama needs to keep them for a while as his rear guard (sorry) from the homosexuals, who are incensed by his dithering on don’t ask don’t tell.

Also they’re below the radar right now. Another terrrorist attack and Napolitano is toast, but failing that, she’s OK for the time being. If the media were to start actually doing their jobs, Jennings (and Napolitano, for that matter) would be toast, too, so he’s got little to worry about, unless Fox draws a bead on him (or her).

I think that, paradoxically, Holder’s race works against him, because Obama is insulated from charges of racism, but not from those of “homophobia.” It would take a lot to turn the brothers against Obama (cue Van Jones here), whereas homosexuals are already muttering about betrayal.

]]> By: betsybounds https://thenewneo.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144844 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:08:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2010/02/08/is-holder-about-to-be-tossed/#comment-144844 He will not be missed.

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