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		By: Mark @ Israel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/01/11/democrats-forever/#comment-141459</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would also agree with Neo and disagree with Gaskin. It&#039;s not over yet for America. Whatever the Dems may be doing just to get their way won&#039;t last forever. Americans are not fools who can be lead like sheep to the slaugher. There&#039;s always that innate desire to resist and to fight for what is right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also agree with Neo and disagree with Gaskin. It&#8217;s not over yet for America. Whatever the Dems may be doing just to get their way won&#8217;t last forever. Americans are not fools who can be lead like sheep to the slaugher. There&#8217;s always that innate desire to resist and to fight for what is right.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/01/11/democrats-forever/#comment-140939</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Unlike the Civil War, there’s not equal numbers of guns nor troops in this situation: any party idiots planning something like this really, really haven’t thought it through at all.&lt;/i&gt;

au contraire mon frere.. they HAVE thought it out.. the problem is that you cant conceive of it, so you assert that it isnt. 

how much military studies have you had (self study counts). how much history? how much of the darker back history we dont talk about?  how abotu just the histories of coupes? this is the reason for relativism and the self confidence movement... to give a person the hubris to act as if they know everything even though they havent spent much time at all studying or reading about the subject. 

they have something that the socialists call special knowing.   its how feminists knew before medicine what we would find biologically (ok they are completely wrong, but hey! truth isnt real or matters, its how good it SOUNDS to your FEELNGS that counts in the hall of ideas).  

we have an open border with mexico that one can bring nuclear weapons through a tunnel and you think that over the past 40 years people havent been moving material and disbursing it around the country? 

&lt;i&gt;Notes in the Archive describe extensive preparations for large-scale sabotage operations against the United States, Canada, and Europe in the event of war, although &lt;b&gt;none were recorded as having been actually carried out beyond creating weapons and explosives caches in assorted foreign countries.&lt;/b&gt; This information has been corroborated in general by GRU defectors, Victor Suvorov[54] and Stanislav Lunev. These operations included the following:

A plan for sabotage of Hungry Horse Dam in Montana.

A detailed plan to destroy the port of New York (target GRANIT). The most vulnerable points of the port were determined and recorded on maps.

&lt;b&gt;Large arms caches were hidden in many countries to support these planned terrorism acts. Some were booby-trapped with &quot;Lightning&quot; explosive devices. One such cache, identified by Mitrokhin, exploded when Swiss authorities tried to remove it from the woods near Berne. Several other caches (probably not equipped with &quot;Lightnings&quot;) were removed successfully.[57]&lt;/b&gt; 

FSLN leader Carlos Fonseca Amador was described as &quot;a trusted agent&quot; in KGB files. &quot;Sandinista guerrillas formed the basis for a KGB sabotage and intelligence group established in 1966 on the Mexican US border&quot;.[58] 

Disruption of the power supply across New York State by KGB sabotage teams, which were to be based along the Delaware river, in Big Spring Park.[56]  &lt;b&gt;An &quot;immensely detailed&quot; plan to destroy &quot;oil refineries and oil and gas pipelines across Canada from British Columbia to Montreal&quot; (operation &quot;Cedar&quot;) was prepared; the work took twelve years to complete.[59] &lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;

by the way, how many operatives do you think can be stationed in the US given our canadian border, and mexico border?  10, 100, 1000, 10,000?  if they moves 1000 a year in, they would ahve more than 40,000 people in the US... and some of them are multigenerational... that is their children are also part of it. 
how many do we have stationed in their closed countries that are still totalitarian and dont have open borders?

by the way, Sejna said that they moved the suitcase nukes into the US. there are also stores of biological weapons they have smuggled in. the nukes they planted in europe were removed!!!  [and you can see fotos of the nuclear points along the borders that the west has to keep the other military out!]


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuke

most of our focus is on Strategic nuclear weapons...however most of the big problems are not with strategic weapons (ie ballistic missiles with high yeilds).. the big problem for globalists, is TACTICAL nuclear weapons. and russia has a huge amount of those!!!! 

&lt;i&gt;Thus far, only the United States and the Soviet Union/Russian Federation are known [1][by whom?] to have possessed nuclear weapons programs developed and funded well enough to manufacture miniaturized nuclear weapons.[2] Both the United States and the Soviet Union have acknowledged producing nuclear weapons small enough to be carried in specially-designed backpacks during the Cold War, but neither have ever made public the existence or development of weapons small enough to fit into a normal-sized suitcase or briefcase.&lt;/i&gt;

ah... but if you take a look at a picture of little boy, you realize that they could put it on a cart, and wheel it through a tunnel from mexico to the US.. .or they could bring them in over alaska border by submarine drop off... move through canada.. then into the US over open borders. despite the subject its not nuclear science. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Unlike the Civil War, there’s not equal numbers of guns nor troops in this situation: any party idiots planning something like this really, really haven’t thought it through at all.</i></p>
<p>au contraire mon frere.. they HAVE thought it out.. the problem is that you cant conceive of it, so you assert that it isnt. </p>
<p>how much military studies have you had (self study counts). how much history? how much of the darker back history we dont talk about?  how abotu just the histories of coupes? this is the reason for relativism and the self confidence movement&#8230; to give a person the hubris to act as if they know everything even though they havent spent much time at all studying or reading about the subject. </p>
<p>they have something that the socialists call special knowing.   its how feminists knew before medicine what we would find biologically (ok they are completely wrong, but hey! truth isnt real or matters, its how good it SOUNDS to your FEELNGS that counts in the hall of ideas).  </p>
<p>we have an open border with mexico that one can bring nuclear weapons through a tunnel and you think that over the past 40 years people havent been moving material and disbursing it around the country? </p>
<p><i>Notes in the Archive describe extensive preparations for large-scale sabotage operations against the United States, Canada, and Europe in the event of war, although <b>none were recorded as having been actually carried out beyond creating weapons and explosives caches in assorted foreign countries.</b> This information has been corroborated in general by GRU defectors, Victor Suvorov[54] and Stanislav Lunev. These operations included the following:</p>
<p>A plan for sabotage of Hungry Horse Dam in Montana.</p>
<p>A detailed plan to destroy the port of New York (target GRANIT). The most vulnerable points of the port were determined and recorded on maps.</p>
<p><b>Large arms caches were hidden in many countries to support these planned terrorism acts. Some were booby-trapped with &#8220;Lightning&#8221; explosive devices. One such cache, identified by Mitrokhin, exploded when Swiss authorities tried to remove it from the woods near Berne. Several other caches (probably not equipped with &#8220;Lightnings&#8221;) were removed successfully.[57]</b> </p>
<p>FSLN leader Carlos Fonseca Amador was described as &#8220;a trusted agent&#8221; in KGB files. &#8220;Sandinista guerrillas formed the basis for a KGB sabotage and intelligence group established in 1966 on the Mexican US border&#8221;.[58] </p>
<p>Disruption of the power supply across New York State by KGB sabotage teams, which were to be based along the Delaware river, in Big Spring Park.[56]  <b>An &#8220;immensely detailed&#8221; plan to destroy &#8220;oil refineries and oil and gas pipelines across Canada from British Columbia to Montreal&#8221; (operation &#8220;Cedar&#8221;) was prepared; the work took twelve years to complete.[59] </b><br />
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<p>by the way, how many operatives do you think can be stationed in the US given our canadian border, and mexico border?  10, 100, 1000, 10,000?  if they moves 1000 a year in, they would ahve more than 40,000 people in the US&#8230; and some of them are multigenerational&#8230; that is their children are also part of it.<br />
how many do we have stationed in their closed countries that are still totalitarian and dont have open borders?</p>
<p>by the way, Sejna said that they moved the suitcase nukes into the US. there are also stores of biological weapons they have smuggled in. the nukes they planted in europe were removed!!!  [and you can see fotos of the nuclear points along the borders that the west has to keep the other military out!]</p>
<p>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_nuke</p>
<p>most of our focus is on Strategic nuclear weapons&#8230;however most of the big problems are not with strategic weapons (ie ballistic missiles with high yeilds).. the big problem for globalists, is TACTICAL nuclear weapons. and russia has a huge amount of those!!!! </p>
<p><i>Thus far, only the United States and the Soviet Union/Russian Federation are known [1][by whom?] to have possessed nuclear weapons programs developed and funded well enough to manufacture miniaturized nuclear weapons.[2] Both the United States and the Soviet Union have acknowledged producing nuclear weapons small enough to be carried in specially-designed backpacks during the Cold War, but neither have ever made public the existence or development of weapons small enough to fit into a normal-sized suitcase or briefcase.</i></p>
<p>ah&#8230; but if you take a look at a picture of little boy, you realize that they could put it on a cart, and wheel it through a tunnel from mexico to the US.. .or they could bring them in over alaska border by submarine drop off&#8230; move through canada.. then into the US over open borders. despite the subject its not nuclear science. </p>
<p>[edited for length by neo-neocon]</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/01/11/democrats-forever/#comment-140938</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Do the Dem’s seriously think they’re going to get the cooperation of the US military? Or any but the most corrupt police departments? 

Haw-haw-haw.
&lt;/i&gt;

interpol has complete immunity from american law..

&lt;i&gt;One week ago, President Obama quietly signed an executive order that makes an international police force immune from the restraints of American law.
&lt;/i&gt;

so i guess they did something you didnt think of, so your conclusions that you made the way you make them is an invalid process. 

that is, unless your better than them (in reality), not being able to think of a means, is not a testimony that there is no means. its only a testimony that to people of your ability, there is no means. 

this is the exact position a person playing a much better person at chess finds themselves.  they think they have the situation, then suddenly find themselves in checkmate trapped. 

why? 

because no matter how hard they looked they couldnt see the things that break their theory, but instead, using our neo modern methods, tend to only see confirmational information. 

while we all bias things, degree is key. 

being off by 1 mm at 100 yards is a bias, but your still a marxman... being 1 yard off at 100 yards is a bias, and you are quite the opposite of a marksman. 

&lt;b&gt;Interpol&#039;s property and assets are no longer subject to search and confiscation, and its archives are now considered inviolable. This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.
&lt;/b&gt;

what was it you said? 

oh yeah

Haw-haw-haw]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do the Dem’s seriously think they’re going to get the cooperation of the US military? Or any but the most corrupt police departments? </p>
<p>Haw-haw-haw.<br />
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<p>interpol has complete immunity from american law..</p>
<p><i>One week ago, President Obama quietly signed an executive order that makes an international police force immune from the restraints of American law.<br />
</i></p>
<p>so i guess they did something you didnt think of, so your conclusions that you made the way you make them is an invalid process. </p>
<p>that is, unless your better than them (in reality), not being able to think of a means, is not a testimony that there is no means. its only a testimony that to people of your ability, there is no means. </p>
<p>this is the exact position a person playing a much better person at chess finds themselves.  they think they have the situation, then suddenly find themselves in checkmate trapped. </p>
<p>why? </p>
<p>because no matter how hard they looked they couldnt see the things that break their theory, but instead, using our neo modern methods, tend to only see confirmational information. </p>
<p>while we all bias things, degree is key. </p>
<p>being off by 1 mm at 100 yards is a bias, but your still a marxman&#8230; being 1 yard off at 100 yards is a bias, and you are quite the opposite of a marksman. </p>
<p><b>Interpol&#8217;s property and assets are no longer subject to search and confiscation, and its archives are now considered inviolable. This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.<br />
</b></p>
<p>what was it you said? </p>
<p>oh yeah</p>
<p>Haw-haw-haw</p>
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		By: Texmom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/01/11/democrats-forever/#comment-140803</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some good thoughts here, but something has been left out of the equation. Dare I say &quot;God&quot;? There are those of us who still believe He is ultimately in charge and certainly has the power to see this turned around, if it is His will.
Nothing is ever a done deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good thoughts here, but something has been left out of the equation. Dare I say &#8220;God&#8221;? There are those of us who still believe He is ultimately in charge and certainly has the power to see this turned around, if it is His will.<br />
Nothing is ever a done deal.</p>
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		By: anon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/01/11/democrats-forever/#comment-140722</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And now we understand the genius of our founding fathers.  All these immigrants will pump up the votes in BLUE states.  Some D&#039;s who would have won by 2-3% will now win by 8-9%.   

It won&#039;t make a bit of difference out where most of the R&#039;s live.

Do you really think illegal immigrants will have a support system in
rural Iowa?  Or Montana?    NOPE.   So the pols in California will continue to bankrupt themselves while their taxpayers run for 
Arizona and Nevada.

Even the govinator will be left scratching his head.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now we understand the genius of our founding fathers.  All these immigrants will pump up the votes in BLUE states.  Some D&#8217;s who would have won by 2-3% will now win by 8-9%.   </p>
<p>It won&#8217;t make a bit of difference out where most of the R&#8217;s live.</p>
<p>Do you really think illegal immigrants will have a support system in<br />
rural Iowa?  Or Montana?    NOPE.   So the pols in California will continue to bankrupt themselves while their taxpayers run for<br />
Arizona and Nevada.</p>
<p>Even the govinator will be left scratching his head.</p>
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		By: Navigator		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/01/11/democrats-forever/#comment-140706</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have read and re-read this post and comments and have concluded that there is great hope and opportunity that lies ahead. 

The question is not what we can do... but what each of us is willing to do, willing to sacrifice and if it comes to it, for the sake of our families, will we be willing to risk our lives for freedom.

A time may come soon where we will be forced to make these decisions. And should that time come - will we stand behind our beliefs and words and accept our dates with destiny?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read and re-read this post and comments and have concluded that there is great hope and opportunity that lies ahead. </p>
<p>The question is not what we can do&#8230; but what each of us is willing to do, willing to sacrifice and if it comes to it, for the sake of our families, will we be willing to risk our lives for freedom.</p>
<p>A time may come soon where we will be forced to make these decisions. And should that time come &#8211; will we stand behind our beliefs and words and accept our dates with destiny?</p>
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		By: Steve G		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/01/11/democrats-forever/#comment-140695</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I have been concerned about the fascist directions to which the Obami have been intent on leading us, and the apparent lack of concern of the Obami with regard to the growing dissent as exemplified by the tea parties, I am coming to believe that this is a singularly insular group that is becoming more and more divorced from reality.  I strongly suspect that their news intake is limited to the old liberal media sources, such as CBS, NBC, ABC the NYTimes, the AP, and maybe a few other sources.  I don&#039;t think they have the time to go elsewhere for news.  Certainly not FOX.  They most likely view themselves as news makers and watch for their reflections in the MSM.  They appear on the usual Sunday news shows, like Meet The Press, which the rest of the world dismisses as irrelevant.  I wonder if any one of the Obami even reads the daily intelligence reports.

Only a few weeks ago Obama was (unbelievably) giving himself a B+ for his accomplishments in office and stating that this would rise to an A (or A-, I forget which) when the healthcare bill was passed into law.  The rest of us are debating whether he gets just an F or an F-.  There is a big disconnect here and is only explainable if the Obami had such a disdain for the rest of us that our opinions did not concern them in the least.  After all, haven&#039;t they already demonstrated that they are smarter than we and know what is best for us.

I will never be able to figure out why Obama allowed Reid and Pelosi to enact an economic stimulus bill that was devoid of any stimulus.  After all, the calendar runs for all of us and, at some point in time, you have to demonstrate results.  But, there is no embarrassment there.

By the way, given what has been coming out the last few days with regard to the offer by Obama to Hillary joining his team if she could only rein Bill&#039;s sexual appetites in, Bill threw the Democrat party a big Christmas kiss by advising to one and all that the backlash he faced in 1994 was because Hillary&#039;s healthcare bill did not pass.  It would go away, he advised, if the bill had passed.  So, the Dems have been even more eager to line up and vote for this terrible bill.  Only now are the consequences becoming apparent, as the party is quickly losing its grip on power.  And, Bill gets to rid himself of some of the Dems that lied to his face about supporting Hillary and secretly supported Obama, like Reid.   For all his faults, Bill grew in the office and even started to act presidential.  The Republican Congress helped. I don&#039;t think Obama can allow his ego to admit that he does not know it all so he is absolutely unable to learn anything (but golf).  I think he is exactly the same person we inaugurated last January, with the same agenda and the same silly ideas on how to abase our country in order to assure world peace.

On Sunday, for the first time in years, I flicked the remote through the various MSM shows and heard one of the liberal newsies assert that the Republicans today are just like that Hoover guy who never lifted a finger to stop the depression.  Obviously they don&#039;t know their history.  It was Coolidge that never lifted a finger and we all benefited as a result.  Hoover pushed for passage of and signed into law the Smoot Hawley Act after the 1929 crash, raised taxes on the wealthy, and otherwise did a lot of damage to the economy.  Roosevelt even ran as a free trader against Hoover, whose policies were already very unpopular, but then immediately adopted Hoover&#039;s policies.  Those Dems never tell the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have been concerned about the fascist directions to which the Obami have been intent on leading us, and the apparent lack of concern of the Obami with regard to the growing dissent as exemplified by the tea parties, I am coming to believe that this is a singularly insular group that is becoming more and more divorced from reality.  I strongly suspect that their news intake is limited to the old liberal media sources, such as CBS, NBC, ABC the NYTimes, the AP, and maybe a few other sources.  I don&#8217;t think they have the time to go elsewhere for news.  Certainly not FOX.  They most likely view themselves as news makers and watch for their reflections in the MSM.  They appear on the usual Sunday news shows, like Meet The Press, which the rest of the world dismisses as irrelevant.  I wonder if any one of the Obami even reads the daily intelligence reports.</p>
<p>Only a few weeks ago Obama was (unbelievably) giving himself a B+ for his accomplishments in office and stating that this would rise to an A (or A-, I forget which) when the healthcare bill was passed into law.  The rest of us are debating whether he gets just an F or an F-.  There is a big disconnect here and is only explainable if the Obami had such a disdain for the rest of us that our opinions did not concern them in the least.  After all, haven&#8217;t they already demonstrated that they are smarter than we and know what is best for us.</p>
<p>I will never be able to figure out why Obama allowed Reid and Pelosi to enact an economic stimulus bill that was devoid of any stimulus.  After all, the calendar runs for all of us and, at some point in time, you have to demonstrate results.  But, there is no embarrassment there.</p>
<p>By the way, given what has been coming out the last few days with regard to the offer by Obama to Hillary joining his team if she could only rein Bill&#8217;s sexual appetites in, Bill threw the Democrat party a big Christmas kiss by advising to one and all that the backlash he faced in 1994 was because Hillary&#8217;s healthcare bill did not pass.  It would go away, he advised, if the bill had passed.  So, the Dems have been even more eager to line up and vote for this terrible bill.  Only now are the consequences becoming apparent, as the party is quickly losing its grip on power.  And, Bill gets to rid himself of some of the Dems that lied to his face about supporting Hillary and secretly supported Obama, like Reid.   For all his faults, Bill grew in the office and even started to act presidential.  The Republican Congress helped. I don&#8217;t think Obama can allow his ego to admit that he does not know it all so he is absolutely unable to learn anything (but golf).  I think he is exactly the same person we inaugurated last January, with the same agenda and the same silly ideas on how to abase our country in order to assure world peace.</p>
<p>On Sunday, for the first time in years, I flicked the remote through the various MSM shows and heard one of the liberal newsies assert that the Republicans today are just like that Hoover guy who never lifted a finger to stop the depression.  Obviously they don&#8217;t know their history.  It was Coolidge that never lifted a finger and we all benefited as a result.  Hoover pushed for passage of and signed into law the Smoot Hawley Act after the 1929 crash, raised taxes on the wealthy, and otherwise did a lot of damage to the economy.  Roosevelt even ran as a free trader against Hoover, whose policies were already very unpopular, but then immediately adopted Hoover&#8217;s policies.  Those Dems never tell the truth.</p>
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		By: CV		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2010/01/11/democrats-forever/#comment-140676</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This author seems to think that the Dems can steal the elections that they need, but what if there is a massive slide back to the center/right with the upcoming elections, similar to what happened when voters rejected Carter for Reagan? 

They can&#039;t steal ALL of the elections...

I still think we&#039;ll be seeing a lot more damage in the months/years to come. Remember he has only been in office for one year. Sigh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This author seems to think that the Dems can steal the elections that they need, but what if there is a massive slide back to the center/right with the upcoming elections, similar to what happened when voters rejected Carter for Reagan? </p>
<p>They can&#8217;t steal ALL of the elections&#8230;</p>
<p>I still think we&#8217;ll be seeing a lot more damage in the months/years to come. Remember he has only been in office for one year. Sigh.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am not persuaded the US Military will come down on our side, should it come to that. The troops  probably would, but the commanders? Command is obviously critical.
I wish we could know what the Colonels and Generals in the Pentagon and elsewhere are saying in private.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not persuaded the US Military will come down on our side, should it come to that. The troops  probably would, but the commanders? Command is obviously critical.<br />
I wish we could know what the Colonels and Generals in the Pentagon and elsewhere are saying in private.</p>
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		By: Tatterdemalian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatterdemalian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I doubt that the Military and Police hold much affection for Progresives/Communists.&quot;

I think you underestimate how awesome it is to be a member of the police in a police state. All Communist revolutions had their military component, drawn from trained military and police officers drawn to the promise of being able to exert absolute power over a people they saw as lazy and corrupt, and not noticing or caring about how corrupt they were being in betraying the oath to serve the public rather than rule them. Dissatisfaction can take all variety of turns, and the only chance any side in a real civil war has is to get the majority of the trained fighters in the country working for them. The critical component of this, in turn, is to not be the ones who turn weapons against our fellow citizens first... then you go from &quot;decent person&quot; to &quot;murderous criminal&quot; in the eyes of the reliable soldiers who remember the oaths they took, and make it seem less of a no-brainer which side to join when the time comes.

Even another loss at the polls won&#039;t be a good time for civil war yet. It sounds callous, but many people will have to die of starvation and rationing and even police actions before it will be time to make war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I doubt that the Military and Police hold much affection for Progresives/Communists.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you underestimate how awesome it is to be a member of the police in a police state. All Communist revolutions had their military component, drawn from trained military and police officers drawn to the promise of being able to exert absolute power over a people they saw as lazy and corrupt, and not noticing or caring about how corrupt they were being in betraying the oath to serve the public rather than rule them. Dissatisfaction can take all variety of turns, and the only chance any side in a real civil war has is to get the majority of the trained fighters in the country working for them. The critical component of this, in turn, is to not be the ones who turn weapons against our fellow citizens first&#8230; then you go from &#8220;decent person&#8221; to &#8220;murderous criminal&#8221; in the eyes of the reliable soldiers who remember the oaths they took, and make it seem less of a no-brainer which side to join when the time comes.</p>
<p>Even another loss at the polls won&#8217;t be a good time for civil war yet. It sounds callous, but many people will have to die of starvation and rationing and even police actions before it will be time to make war.</p>
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