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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read huge amounts and remember stuff very well in time...  and i have gone out in the world and crawled through its muck too... 

literature is a pale copy of life

life isnt like literature

the moon isnt always full in life. in life people go to the bathroom. in life the bad guys often win. most murders arent solved. most of the time in real life there is no cavalry. in life when people die, they never come back. real life has smells. 

no amount of reading is a substitute for real life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read huge amounts and remember stuff very well in time&#8230;  and i have gone out in the world and crawled through its muck too&#8230; </p>
<p>literature is a pale copy of life</p>
<p>life isnt like literature</p>
<p>the moon isnt always full in life. in life people go to the bathroom. in life the bad guys often win. most murders arent solved. most of the time in real life there is no cavalry. in life when people die, they never come back. real life has smells. </p>
<p>no amount of reading is a substitute for real life.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the reminder, T. About the value of good-great literature. Artfldgr...2:47pm: Um..You&#039;re serious ? Ya need to get away from your keyboard, Boyo, and read more. Trust me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the reminder, T. About the value of good-great literature. Artfldgr&#8230;2:47pm: Um..You&#8217;re serious ? Ya need to get away from your keyboard, Boyo, and read more. Trust me.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Life isnt at all like literature...]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am hardly a wide-eyed optimist, but I say &quot;Take heart!&quot;

We live in difficult times with an incompetent and mis-directed White House, and yet as Gandalf admonished Frodo, &quot;Even the very wise can not see all ends,&quot;

With each passing day I see the illusory moral high ground of the far left unraveling stitch by stitch.  This is evinced by the rapid swing in the polls of independents away from leftist and democratic ideals.  We may have to live through these difficult times just to see the permanent reduction of leftist and statist influence in our country.

Time will tell, but I see the the left hoisting itself by its own petard on a daily basis.  We can only hope, and we can only hope that there is something or someone worthwhile to take its place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hardly a wide-eyed optimist, but I say &#8220;Take heart!&#8221;</p>
<p>We live in difficult times with an incompetent and mis-directed White House, and yet as Gandalf admonished Frodo, &#8220;Even the very wise can not see all ends,&#8221;</p>
<p>With each passing day I see the illusory moral high ground of the far left unraveling stitch by stitch.  This is evinced by the rapid swing in the polls of independents away from leftist and democratic ideals.  We may have to live through these difficult times just to see the permanent reduction of leftist and statist influence in our country.</p>
<p>Time will tell, but I see the the left hoisting itself by its own petard on a daily basis.  We can only hope, and we can only hope that there is something or someone worthwhile to take its place.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The press for some strange reason does not remind him of these promises, instead Charlie Gibson says, &quot;oh god, your burden must be heavy.....&quot;]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From JFK:

&quot;The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie: deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth:  persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From JFK:</p>
<p>&#8220;The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie: deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth:  persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[if we are going to talk lies, how about the industry of lies? 

and hollyweird is still pushing the same socailist realism meme (french for idea), about how white men are the bad people of the world. &#039;

&lt;i&gt;Avatar is the corniest movie ever made about the white man’s need to lose his identity and assuage racial, political, sexual and historical guilt.&lt;/i&gt;

oh... a more expensive version of that other movie that starts with tying indians to horses (which came way after columbus), and telling us that it was white man that ruined america, claimed that vikings came to america to rape and steal indian women (from florida - notice spanish moss), put them in their deep draught galleons (what happened to long ships), and take them back (which would mean being nice to those peoples sicne they are now part indian, right?).. 

&lt;i&gt;Only children–including adult-children–will see Avatar as simply an adventure film; their own love of technology has co-opted their ability to comprehend narrative detail.&lt;/i&gt;

yeah.. like the man who wrote the golden compass is lamenting that people didnt want to see a story about the death of god and communism (but he now is worried that it was really killed by a cabal of christians and catholics causing a boycott...). he gets no hint from lion witch and wardrobe (which his is a very poor knockoff with the opposite messate), which grossed a lot, and people are waiting for the other ones. 

&lt;i&gt;Set in the near future, Avatar is a throwback to the hippie naiveté of Kevin Costner’s production Rapa Nui (directed by Kevin Reynolds). While prattling about man’s threat to environmental harmony, Cameron’s really into the powie-zowie factor: destructive combat and the deployment of technological force. &lt;/i&gt;

the next paragraph basically points out taht this big story has the same propaganda story as the movie i dont name above!  

&lt;i&gt;Here’s the hypocrisy: As Sully helps the beleaguered, virtuous aliens fight back and conquer the human invaders...&lt;/i&gt;

oh.. like the viking boy who wouldnt murder babies being left behind and becoming one with the indians, who are created and shown like fawns in paradise (including wariors playing pan flutes. what? do they think they are cultured like japanese samurai?). 

&lt;i&gt;Avatar puts forth a simple-minded anti-industrial critique. Despite Avatar’s 12-year gestation, Cameron’s obviously commenting on the Iraq War–though not like his hawkish Aliens. Appealing to Iraq War disenchantment, he evokes 9/11 when the military topples the Na’vi’s sacred, towering Tree of Souls. The imagery implies that the World Trade Center was also an altar (of U.S. capitalism), yet this berserk analogy exposes Cameron’s contradictory thinking. It triggers the offensive battle scenes where American soldiers get vengefully decimated–scored to the rousing clichés of Carmina Burana. 

&lt;/i&gt;

personally i like the Carmina Burana...  the poems of defrocked monks set to music... (and was great in excalibur!).  but, what they are doing is the old clockwork orange concept of aligning the epitome of human music, like chopin, with the epitome of human morality.   

&lt;b&gt;a kind of moral chiaraschuro...  in which the horrid drags down the sublime, while the sublime seems to elevate the sadistic, sociopathic, and morally incomprehensible, into a pallet for a real artist. &lt;/b&gt;

to show one how far back this goes, one can just boot up an old copy of: 
the incredible mr limpet. 

SAME story... the main character falls into the other world of animals and nature... then regrets being human... then gets us to imagine all humans gone

&lt;i&gt;Henry Limpet: Well, with the war in Europe and new weapons being invented all the time, why, what if men were actually foolish enough to destroy themselves completely? Then, you see, the fish in the ocean would develop into a new race of men, and, well, this time they might turn out better, you see? &lt;/i&gt;

ah... perhaps if we get wiped out they can make new socialist man.. 

but limpet also goes on in how can the lady fish love him as he used to be a monster (human). of course his fidelity to his human wife went right out the window...   despite her later showing such love and devotion as to want to remain in her marraige even if he is a fish. 

&lt;b&gt;Henry Limpet: What if I told you I used to be a human being?  Ladyfish: I dont care how terrible your past was, Limpet.&lt;/b&gt;

two birds in one stone... hate yourself, and dont use peoples pasts as a judgment. (hey ayers, lucky you).  

&lt;i&gt;Once again, villainous Americans exhibit no direct communication with ancestors. That’s Cameron’s fanboy zeal turned into fatuous politics. He misrepresents the facts of militarism, capitalism, imperialism–and their comforts. 
&lt;/i&gt;


i wrote this as i was noticing things across time. 

the droning of the big lie in front of you. 

anyone notice that there are TWO Versions of rudolf and the island of lost toys. there is the original with original values andsuch. then there is the new liberal one...  which regenerates the characters by computer. 

funny thing though.  it stars voices of people like Richard Dryfuss. but when you see the listing on cable, its completely devoid of any information that would clue a parent into the fact that they were putting their kid down in front of a different movie. 

so there is no rating.. not even a note saying not rated. there is no credits. not the director, not the big names stars.   nothing. 

if there was the parents would easily know that dryfuss is to young to ahve been a narrator on the show they remember, and they would then wonder where Rankin Bass was.. 

anyone want to guess as to the new message? 

unless you notice it, you would think someone nuts for saying it. 

&lt;b&gt;The recent release on DVD of Sesame Street volumes I and II contain a warning so risible as to be unbelieved if I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes: “These early ‘Sesame Street’ episodes are intended for grown-ups, and may not suit the needs of today’s preschool child.”&lt;/b&gt;

www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magazine/18wwln-medium-t.html?adxnnl=1&#038;adxnnlx=1195657220-oGTm9UtXP1DjGzI0P7zmsw

&lt;b&gt;At a recent all-ages home screening, a hush fell over the room. “What did they do to us?” asked one Gen-X mother of two, finally. The show rolled, and the sweet trauma came flooding back. What they did to us was hard-core. Man, was that scene rough. The masonry on the dingy brownstone at 123 Sesame Street, where the closeted Ernie and Bert shared a dismal basement apartment, was deteriorating. Cookie Monster was on a fast track to diabetes. Oscar’s depression was untreated. Prozacky Elmo didn’t exist.

Nothing in the children’s entertainment of today, candy-colored animation hopped up on computer tricks, can prepare young or old for this frightening glimpse of simpler times. Back then – as on the very first episode, which aired on PBS Nov. 10, 1969 – a pretty, lonely girl like Sally might find herself befriended by an older male stranger who held her hand and took her home. Granted, Gordon just wanted Sally to meet his wife and have some milk and cookies, but . . . well, he could have wanted anything. As it was, he fed her milk and cookies. The milk looks dangerously whole.

&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;So, what has parents recoiling in horror from these episodes? Let’s see. Cookie Monster smokes a pipe and later eats it; we won’t even begin to touch upon his cookie binging. Big Bird hallucinates big, fluffy elephants til apparently, folks were threatening to send him to rehab. Oscar the Grouch is… grouchy!! Heaven forfend. Let’s not even touch upon the dubious relationship between the curmudgeonly Burt and his dimwitted amant ami, Ernie.

My favorite reaction to this warning label comes from an incredibly eloquent man on LJ who also writes for DCist. In his reaction to all this idiocy (whose title, btw, comes closer to Avenue Q than Sesame Street, and more power to him for bucking the politically correct), he writes:

&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Or, for parents who’d rather not just let the TV teach their children, they could use it as an avenue towards teaching not just that smoking, gluttony and general bitchiness aren’t behaviors that kids should model, but also that used in the proper context, these things can be used to dramatic, comedic, and allegorical effect.

Then, maybe those kids won’t grow up into humorless and painfully literal adults who assume that no one under the age of 18 could possibly be capable of some guided critical thinking and the separation of what they see and how it impacts on how they act.

What saddens me the most is that we’re getting to a point where the show has been around long enough that a lot of the folks saying that Sesame Street of all things is a bad influence probably grew up with the show themselves. Or, maybe they didn’t, and that’s the problem.

&lt;/b&gt; from www.solomother.com/sesame-street-is-inappropriate-for-small-children-pause-huh/



submerged up to our neck in it as a form of social engineering (experimenting on people without permission from them), we dont see how pervasive it is. 


funny how the elite think themselves self actuated, but its the few self actuated that have such a different and profound view that can see taht this is a lot of thing,s but not the output of self actuated people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we are going to talk lies, how about the industry of lies? </p>
<p>and hollyweird is still pushing the same socailist realism meme (french for idea), about how white men are the bad people of the world. &#8216;</p>
<p><i>Avatar is the corniest movie ever made about the white man’s need to lose his identity and assuage racial, political, sexual and historical guilt.</i></p>
<p>oh&#8230; a more expensive version of that other movie that starts with tying indians to horses (which came way after columbus), and telling us that it was white man that ruined america, claimed that vikings came to america to rape and steal indian women (from florida &#8211; notice spanish moss), put them in their deep draught galleons (what happened to long ships), and take them back (which would mean being nice to those peoples sicne they are now part indian, right?).. </p>
<p><i>Only children–including adult-children–will see Avatar as simply an adventure film; their own love of technology has co-opted their ability to comprehend narrative detail.</i></p>
<p>yeah.. like the man who wrote the golden compass is lamenting that people didnt want to see a story about the death of god and communism (but he now is worried that it was really killed by a cabal of christians and catholics causing a boycott&#8230;). he gets no hint from lion witch and wardrobe (which his is a very poor knockoff with the opposite messate), which grossed a lot, and people are waiting for the other ones. </p>
<p><i>Set in the near future, Avatar is a throwback to the hippie naiveté of Kevin Costner’s production Rapa Nui (directed by Kevin Reynolds). While prattling about man’s threat to environmental harmony, Cameron’s really into the powie-zowie factor: destructive combat and the deployment of technological force. </i></p>
<p>the next paragraph basically points out taht this big story has the same propaganda story as the movie i dont name above!  </p>
<p><i>Here’s the hypocrisy: As Sully helps the beleaguered, virtuous aliens fight back and conquer the human invaders&#8230;</i></p>
<p>oh.. like the viking boy who wouldnt murder babies being left behind and becoming one with the indians, who are created and shown like fawns in paradise (including wariors playing pan flutes. what? do they think they are cultured like japanese samurai?). </p>
<p><i>Avatar puts forth a simple-minded anti-industrial critique. Despite Avatar’s 12-year gestation, Cameron’s obviously commenting on the Iraq War–though not like his hawkish Aliens. Appealing to Iraq War disenchantment, he evokes 9/11 when the military topples the Na’vi’s sacred, towering Tree of Souls. The imagery implies that the World Trade Center was also an altar (of U.S. capitalism), yet this berserk analogy exposes Cameron’s contradictory thinking. It triggers the offensive battle scenes where American soldiers get vengefully decimated–scored to the rousing clichés of Carmina Burana. </p>
<p></i></p>
<p>personally i like the Carmina Burana&#8230;  the poems of defrocked monks set to music&#8230; (and was great in excalibur!).  but, what they are doing is the old clockwork orange concept of aligning the epitome of human music, like chopin, with the epitome of human morality.   </p>
<p><b>a kind of moral chiaraschuro&#8230;  in which the horrid drags down the sublime, while the sublime seems to elevate the sadistic, sociopathic, and morally incomprehensible, into a pallet for a real artist. </b></p>
<p>to show one how far back this goes, one can just boot up an old copy of:<br />
the incredible mr limpet. </p>
<p>SAME story&#8230; the main character falls into the other world of animals and nature&#8230; then regrets being human&#8230; then gets us to imagine all humans gone</p>
<p><i>Henry Limpet: Well, with the war in Europe and new weapons being invented all the time, why, what if men were actually foolish enough to destroy themselves completely? Then, you see, the fish in the ocean would develop into a new race of men, and, well, this time they might turn out better, you see? </i></p>
<p>ah&#8230; perhaps if we get wiped out they can make new socialist man.. </p>
<p>but limpet also goes on in how can the lady fish love him as he used to be a monster (human). of course his fidelity to his human wife went right out the window&#8230;   despite her later showing such love and devotion as to want to remain in her marraige even if he is a fish. </p>
<p><b>Henry Limpet: What if I told you I used to be a human being?  Ladyfish: I dont care how terrible your past was, Limpet.</b></p>
<p>two birds in one stone&#8230; hate yourself, and dont use peoples pasts as a judgment. (hey ayers, lucky you).  </p>
<p><i>Once again, villainous Americans exhibit no direct communication with ancestors. That’s Cameron’s fanboy zeal turned into fatuous politics. He misrepresents the facts of militarism, capitalism, imperialism–and their comforts.<br />
</i></p>
<p>i wrote this as i was noticing things across time. </p>
<p>the droning of the big lie in front of you. </p>
<p>anyone notice that there are TWO Versions of rudolf and the island of lost toys. there is the original with original values andsuch. then there is the new liberal one&#8230;  which regenerates the characters by computer. </p>
<p>funny thing though.  it stars voices of people like Richard Dryfuss. but when you see the listing on cable, its completely devoid of any information that would clue a parent into the fact that they were putting their kid down in front of a different movie. </p>
<p>so there is no rating.. not even a note saying not rated. there is no credits. not the director, not the big names stars.   nothing. </p>
<p>if there was the parents would easily know that dryfuss is to young to ahve been a narrator on the show they remember, and they would then wonder where Rankin Bass was.. </p>
<p>anyone want to guess as to the new message? </p>
<p>unless you notice it, you would think someone nuts for saying it. </p>
<p><b>The recent release on DVD of Sesame Street volumes I and II contain a warning so risible as to be unbelieved if I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes: “These early ‘Sesame Street’ episodes are intended for grown-ups, and may not suit the needs of today’s preschool child.”</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magazine/18wwln-medium-t.html?adxnnl=1&#038;adxnnlx=1195657220-oGTm9UtXP1DjGzI0P7zmsw" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magazine/18wwln-medium-t.html?adxnnl=1&#038;adxnnlx=1195657220-oGTm9UtXP1DjGzI0P7zmsw</a></p>
<p><b>At a recent all-ages home screening, a hush fell over the room. “What did they do to us?” asked one Gen-X mother of two, finally. The show rolled, and the sweet trauma came flooding back. What they did to us was hard-core. Man, was that scene rough. The masonry on the dingy brownstone at 123 Sesame Street, where the closeted Ernie and Bert shared a dismal basement apartment, was deteriorating. Cookie Monster was on a fast track to diabetes. Oscar’s depression was untreated. Prozacky Elmo didn’t exist.</p>
<p>Nothing in the children’s entertainment of today, candy-colored animation hopped up on computer tricks, can prepare young or old for this frightening glimpse of simpler times. Back then – as on the very first episode, which aired on PBS Nov. 10, 1969 – a pretty, lonely girl like Sally might find herself befriended by an older male stranger who held her hand and took her home. Granted, Gordon just wanted Sally to meet his wife and have some milk and cookies, but . . . well, he could have wanted anything. As it was, he fed her milk and cookies. The milk looks dangerously whole.</p>
<p></b></p>
<p><i>So, what has parents recoiling in horror from these episodes? Let’s see. Cookie Monster smokes a pipe and later eats it; we won’t even begin to touch upon his cookie binging. Big Bird hallucinates big, fluffy elephants til apparently, folks were threatening to send him to rehab. Oscar the Grouch is… grouchy!! Heaven forfend. Let’s not even touch upon the dubious relationship between the curmudgeonly Burt and his dimwitted amant ami, Ernie.</p>
<p>My favorite reaction to this warning label comes from an incredibly eloquent man on LJ who also writes for DCist. In his reaction to all this idiocy (whose title, btw, comes closer to Avenue Q than Sesame Street, and more power to him for bucking the politically correct), he writes:</p>
<p></i></p>
<p><b>Or, for parents who’d rather not just let the TV teach their children, they could use it as an avenue towards teaching not just that smoking, gluttony and general bitchiness aren’t behaviors that kids should model, but also that used in the proper context, these things can be used to dramatic, comedic, and allegorical effect.</p>
<p>Then, maybe those kids won’t grow up into humorless and painfully literal adults who assume that no one under the age of 18 could possibly be capable of some guided critical thinking and the separation of what they see and how it impacts on how they act.</p>
<p>What saddens me the most is that we’re getting to a point where the show has been around long enough that a lot of the folks saying that Sesame Street of all things is a bad influence probably grew up with the show themselves. Or, maybe they didn’t, and that’s the problem.</p>
<p></b> from <a href="http://www.solomother.com/sesame-street-is-inappropriate-for-small-children-pause-huh/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.solomother.com/sesame-street-is-inappropriate-for-small-children-pause-huh/</a></p>
<p>submerged up to our neck in it as a form of social engineering (experimenting on people without permission from them), we dont see how pervasive it is. </p>
<p>funny how the elite think themselves self actuated, but its the few self actuated that have such a different and profound view that can see taht this is a lot of thing,s but not the output of self actuated people.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[hey! isnt that just how the supreme soviet worked? fancy that...  what a funny coincidence...   no mater how many times such things happen, they dont mean anything... 

let me know if this sounds familiar at all as to how things operate now:

&lt;b&gt;The soviets were largely rubber stamp institutions, approving decisions handed to them by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.&lt;/b&gt; wiki

that is, their job was not to craft legislation or even care whats in it, their job was to pass it. in this way, laws and changes suddenly appeared. huge voluminous and coordinated with other things yet to be handed over, or issues as yet to be revealed or constructed. 

in this case the council of ministers are the czars. but &lt;b&gt;how would any one recognize wht they were looking at in terms of what they dont know? &lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey! isnt that just how the supreme soviet worked? fancy that&#8230;  what a funny coincidence&#8230;   no mater how many times such things happen, they dont mean anything&#8230; </p>
<p>let me know if this sounds familiar at all as to how things operate now:</p>
<p><b>The soviets were largely rubber stamp institutions, approving decisions handed to them by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.</b> wiki</p>
<p>that is, their job was not to craft legislation or even care whats in it, their job was to pass it. in this way, laws and changes suddenly appeared. huge voluminous and coordinated with other things yet to be handed over, or issues as yet to be revealed or constructed. </p>
<p>in this case the council of ministers are the czars. but <b>how would any one recognize wht they were looking at in terms of what they dont know? </b></p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/12/16/obamas-transparent-lies/#comment-137581</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[‘And here’s the most outrageous part: at the end of this rush, they want us to vote on a bill that no one outside the Majority Leader’s conference room has even seen. That’s right. The final bill we’ll vote on isn’t even the one we’ve had on the floor. It’s the deal Democrat leaders have been trying to work out in private’]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘And here’s the most outrageous part: at the end of this rush, they want us to vote on a bill that no one outside the Majority Leader’s conference room has even seen. That’s right. The final bill we’ll vote on isn’t even the one we’ve had on the floor. It’s the deal Democrat leaders have been trying to work out in private’</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/12/16/obamas-transparent-lies/#comment-137575</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The targeting of Joe Lieberman&#039;s wife continues...

http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2009/12/15/the-shameless-targeting-of-hadassah-lieberman-continues/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The targeting of Joe Lieberman&#8217;s wife continues&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2009/12/15/the-shameless-targeting-of-hadassah-lieberman-continues/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2009/12/15/the-shameless-targeting-of-hadassah-lieberman-continues/</a></p>
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