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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/12/08/a-peek-at-how-agw-data-is-adjusted/#comment-136822</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rickl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gray, I think you absolutely nailed it with your 12:46 am comment.

Yes, it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; chilling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray, I think you absolutely nailed it with your 12:46 am comment.</p>
<p>Yes, it <i>is</i> chilling.</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/12/08/a-peek-at-how-agw-data-is-adjusted/#comment-136744</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WSJ calls the warmists deniers

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704342404574576683216723794.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WSJ calls the warmists deniers</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704342404574576683216723794.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704342404574576683216723794.html</a></p>
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		By: waltj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[waltj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’m sure that Global Warmism has the same sound principles as phrenology and Lamarckism….&quot;

Don&#039;t forget Lysenkoism, which is essentially a form of Lamarckism, but backed by the power of a totalitarian state.  In fact, it&#039;s pretty obvious to me that this is what many of the AGW charlatans hope for--that the secret police will come and take away the dissenters, leaving no one to dispute their dubious claims.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m sure that Global Warmism has the same sound principles as phrenology and Lamarckism….&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget Lysenkoism, which is essentially a form of Lamarckism, but backed by the power of a totalitarian state.  In fact, it&#8217;s pretty obvious to me that this is what many of the AGW charlatans hope for&#8211;that the secret police will come and take away the dissenters, leaving no one to dispute their dubious claims.</p>
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		By: betsybounds		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/12/08/a-peek-at-how-agw-data-is-adjusted/#comment-136733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[betsybounds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well I must say that in my wilder moments (some would say that&#039;s just about all the time lately) I&#039;ve wondered whether these guys might hope at some point to use the recent EPA move designating CO2 an environmental pollutant to enforce mandatory population control measures.  You know, since we humans exhale the stuff as part of our respiration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I must say that in my wilder moments (some would say that&#8217;s just about all the time lately) I&#8217;ve wondered whether these guys might hope at some point to use the recent EPA move designating CO2 an environmental pollutant to enforce mandatory population control measures.  You know, since we humans exhale the stuff as part of our respiration.</p>
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		By: Wandriaan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/12/08/a-peek-at-how-agw-data-is-adjusted/#comment-136732</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wandriaan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is so horrendously chilling about the AGW Left is its anti-human drive. There has never been in history something like this. The Nazi’s were anti-Jew, anti-Gypsy, anti-Catholic  etc, the Communists were anti-capitalist, anti-religious etc, but this is something new altogether! Here you have a bunch of humans talking with contempt about humanity and human beings as such!
They are calling themselves by their own words the enemies of mankind. Why do we, the despised rest, even take this garbage! Why don’t we rise up against these people who start by calling themselves our enemies. Look at how they despise our children! 
To set up humanity against itself is evidently the worst thing you can do. It is spiritual poison of the darkest kind. In order to survive spiritually and bodily we have to fight this poison with everything we have.
Look at the many speeches of lord Monckton at You Tube. He makes it as clear as day that AGW is a communist fraud to push for leftist dictatorial global government.
To me it is the exact opposite of true Christianity. True Christians are ready to, if necessary, give their own lives in order that their loved ones might live. AGW fanatics want us to die in order that they have power. 
Don&#039;t think it can happen. For 40 years DDT was banned at the instigation of the world Left. Approximately 40 million people (mostly children) died as a result of this a terrible death of malaria needlesly. Only when the criminals who instituted this madness either retired or died the ban could be lifted.
How many will have to die as a result of the AGW madness before todays fraudsters have either died or retired?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is so horrendously chilling about the AGW Left is its anti-human drive. There has never been in history something like this. The Nazi’s were anti-Jew, anti-Gypsy, anti-Catholic  etc, the Communists were anti-capitalist, anti-religious etc, but this is something new altogether! Here you have a bunch of humans talking with contempt about humanity and human beings as such!<br />
They are calling themselves by their own words the enemies of mankind. Why do we, the despised rest, even take this garbage! Why don’t we rise up against these people who start by calling themselves our enemies. Look at how they despise our children!<br />
To set up humanity against itself is evidently the worst thing you can do. It is spiritual poison of the darkest kind. In order to survive spiritually and bodily we have to fight this poison with everything we have.<br />
Look at the many speeches of lord Monckton at You Tube. He makes it as clear as day that AGW is a communist fraud to push for leftist dictatorial global government.<br />
To me it is the exact opposite of true Christianity. True Christians are ready to, if necessary, give their own lives in order that their loved ones might live. AGW fanatics want us to die in order that they have power.<br />
Don&#8217;t think it can happen. For 40 years DDT was banned at the instigation of the world Left. Approximately 40 million people (mostly children) died as a result of this a terrible death of malaria needlesly. Only when the criminals who instituted this madness either retired or died the ban could be lifted.<br />
How many will have to die as a result of the AGW madness before todays fraudsters have either died or retired?</p>
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		By: PatientObserver		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PatientObserver]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JoNova fills in more details on Darwin here: 

http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/smoking-guns-across-australia-wheres-the-warming/

It includes maps, graphs and concludes with a question:

&quot;I generated these graphs using the Bureau of Meteorology website, and there are more sites there to look at. Perhaps you can find the missing warming locations across the vast north that would bring the average up? Is there any way the official calculated averages for northern Australia could reflect the data we have on the ground?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoNova fills in more details on Darwin here: </p>
<p><a href="http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/smoking-guns-across-australia-wheres-the-warming/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/smoking-guns-across-australia-wheres-the-warming/</a></p>
<p>It includes maps, graphs and concludes with a question:</p>
<p>&#8220;I generated these graphs using the Bureau of Meteorology website, and there are more sites there to look at. Perhaps you can find the missing warming locations across the vast north that would bring the average up? Is there any way the official calculated averages for northern Australia could reflect the data we have on the ground?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 13:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gray, your 12:46 comment is chilling. This may not end well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray, your 12:46 comment is chilling. This may not end well.</p>
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		By: camojack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[camojack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;true believers&quot; will keep on believing, regardless of the facts...by definition. It&#039;s simple faith in their &quot;religion&quot;... :shock:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;true believers&#8221; will keep on believing, regardless of the facts&#8230;by definition. It&#8217;s simple faith in their &#8220;religion&#8221;&#8230; 😯</p>
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		By: Gray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/12/07/science/07climateg.html

See that great variability that suddenly becomes &#039;homogeneous&#039; and concerted at about, oh, 1900?  Notice how instead of some (any) variability past 1900, the different sources actually become &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; homogenenous as we move to the recent temperature measurements?

Bulllllllllllll&lt;i&gt;shit&lt;/i&gt;!

That.  Does.  Not.  Happen. In any natural system.  Hell, even if the warming was true, measurement variability would show more noise than that.

That data is obviously, and amaturishly cooked.  If someone where I worked showed that to me as a graph of temperatures &lt;i&gt;of anything&lt;/i&gt; I would say:  &quot;You did something wrong.  Nothing behaves like that.  Nothing.&quot;

Then I would ridicule them saying:

&quot;Oh, I see how the Vietnam War led to a great agreement in your disparate data sources.  I mean, I can see how all those napalmed kids heated The Earf, but I cannot see how that event would cause your indirect measurements to agree more than any time in history!&quot;

(I&#039;m kinda an a-hole to work with.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/12/07/science/07climateg.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2009/12/07/science/07climateg.html</a></p>
<p>See that great variability that suddenly becomes &#8216;homogeneous&#8217; and concerted at about, oh, 1900?  Notice how instead of some (any) variability past 1900, the different sources actually become <i>more</i> homogenenous as we move to the recent temperature measurements?</p>
<p>Bulllllllllllll<i>shit</i>!</p>
<p>That.  Does.  Not.  Happen. In any natural system.  Hell, even if the warming was true, measurement variability would show more noise than that.</p>
<p>That data is obviously, and amaturishly cooked.  If someone where I worked showed that to me as a graph of temperatures <i>of anything</i> I would say:  &#8220;You did something wrong.  Nothing behaves like that.  Nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then I would ridicule them saying:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, I see how the Vietnam War led to a great agreement in your disparate data sources.  I mean, I can see how all those napalmed kids heated The Earf, but I cannot see how that event would cause your indirect measurements to agree more than any time in history!&#8221;</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m kinda an a-hole to work with.)</p>
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		By: Gray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 05:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There were a great, great many PhD scientists from the famous old universities who were brilliant and well read and became &quot;racial theorists&quot; for the Turd Reich.

Priests bugger kids, Tiger cheats on a supermodel, and scientists lie about data....

It is the way of this fallen world.

(Really, I should start calling the current anti-human, anti-toilet paper Warmzi Regime the &quot;Turd Reich&quot;.  It is more fitting.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were a great, great many PhD scientists from the famous old universities who were brilliant and well read and became &#8220;racial theorists&#8221; for the Turd Reich.</p>
<p>Priests bugger kids, Tiger cheats on a supermodel, and scientists lie about data&#8230;.</p>
<p>It is the way of this fallen world.</p>
<p>(Really, I should start calling the current anti-human, anti-toilet paper Warmzi Regime the &#8220;Turd Reich&#8221;.  It is more fitting.)</p>
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