no problem… please share what you find.

i dont know everything despite what the snarky trolls might say..

just remember that different sources leave out different little things..

[the link has a period on the end which stops it from working]

if you want to have a good start… go to the FBI… they have lots of these files up for you to read and learn from…

whats amazing is following the different forms along the lines of the different groups.

like images of stars… you can only get a good clear one from adding up many images so that the disturbances cancel out… 🙂

Thanks for the education.

Thanks.

thats not the origin…

the origin happened after McCArthy accused a man named lattimore that he was a spy. lattimore wrote a book about it, and coined the term to smear McCarthy.

it didnt ORIGINALLY MEAN anything.. any more than using FASCIST today means anything.

Owen Lattimore (July 29, 1900 — May 31, 1989) was an American author, educator, and influential scholar of Central Asia, especially Mongolia. In the 1930s he was editor of Pacific Affairs, a journal published by the Institute of Pacific Relations, and then taught at Johns Hopkins University from 1938 to 1963. During World War II he was advisor to Chiang Kai-shek and the American government and contributed extensively to the public debate.[1] In the early post-war period of McCarthyism and the Red Scare, American wartime China Hands were accused of being agents of the Soviet Union or under the influence of Marxism. Senator Joseph McCarthy accused Lattimore in particular of being “the top Russian espionage agent in the United States.”[1] The accusations led to years of Congressional hearings which did not substantiate the charge that Lattimore had been one (nor did wartime intercepted Venona cables refer to him as one). The hearings did document Lattimore’s sympathetic statements about Stalin and the Soviet Union, however. Although charges of perjury were dismissed, the controversy put an end to Lattimore’s role as a consultant of the United States State Department and eventually to his career in American academic life.

Lattimore’s “lifetime intellectual project,” notes one recent scholar, was to “develop a ‘scientific’ model of the way human societies form, evolve, grow, decline, mutate and interact with one another along ‘frontiers.’” He eclectically absorbed and often abandoned influential theories of his day which dealt with the great themes of history. These included the ecological determinism of Ellsworth Huntington; biological racism, though only to the extent of seeing characteristics which grew out of ecology; the economic geography and location theory; and some aspects of Marxist modes of production and stages of history, especially through the influence of Karl August Wittfogel. The most important and lasting theorist, however, was Arnold J. Toynbee and his treatment of the great civilizations as organic wholes which were born, matured, grew old, and died.[2]

depending on whether you read the now revisionist wiki, or other sources… you will read that mccarthy had no evidence.

this was not true… like the terrorist stuff today, the best evidence cant be revealed inside a court till years later when its no longer relevent or dangerous to do so.

In 1952, after 17 months of study and hearing, involving 66 witnesses and thousands of documents, the McCarran Committee issued its 226-page, unanimous final report. This report stated that ‘Owen Lattimore was, from some time beginning in the 1930s, a conscious articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy’, and that on ‘at least five separate matters’, Lattimore had not told the whole truth. One example: ‘The evidence… shows conclusively that Lattimore knew Frederick V. Field to be a Communist; that he collaborated with Field after he possessed this knowledge; and that he did not tell the truth before the subcommittee about this association with Field….'[18]

and in that book, Ordeal by Slander, he INVENTS the FALSE TERM, to slander McCarthy… and the left being a collective took the collective position to create the big lie. (and perhaps resurect lattimores extensive works. just as they are trying to white wash heideckers nazi love).

it was YEARS later that Venona transcripts were released..

most on the left try to hid this by linking what mccarthy had with the list of 109, or his 81 cases.. but the reality is different… it doesnt create the false story that mccarthy didnt know…

read the list and they conviently leave out lattimore!!!!!!! http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page62.html

this is when knowing lots of history is important, because reality is concordant…

From the earliest years of the New Deal until the late 1940’s the government was deeply infiltrated with Communists and their supporters. There was no shortage of either messages to the President or evidence to support such infiltration. Yet, Roosevelt then Truman chose to ignore such evidence.

In 1946 Hoover again went to the White House, this time providing Harry Truman with a list of known Communists and sympathizers still in the government. Truman’s response was: “What am I going to do? Give those @#%&* Republicans up on the Hill something to bash me with.”

the meanign is artificially constructed so that we live in a world where spies dont exist, and those who believe they do, and believe in subversion, and rotting from inside, are deemed tin hat.

but then again, they dont read the histories, they dont read the reams and reams of archive information… to START would be to admit they are ignorant, and thats the LAST thing they would do, cause that makes them believe they are massively not equal.

McCarthy’s detractors, Communists, and Soviet sympathizers never anticipated two things: One, the Venona intercepts and their subsequent release; Two, the collapse of Communism and the opening of Soviet files.

i am still waiting for the results of the opening of the CPUSA files over at NYU… i dont think i will ever see them though.

From 1943 until 1980, unbeknownst to virtually everyone, the National Security Agency intercepted every Soviet message going from or to the United States. It was not until 1994 that their existence was even acknowledged, and 1995 when the first 1,400 of 240,000 intercepts were released to the public. Their content was damning and supportive of the contentions of not only McCarthy but Whittaker Chambers, Elizabeth Bentley, Hoover, and others.

Was Robert Oppenheimer, the Director of the Atom Bomb Project at Los Alamos, New Mexico, a member of the Communist Party? Quite emphatically, no! His wife was. His brother was. His mistress was. As were many of his closest associates at the University of California. In addition, Oppenheimer was one of those scientists in the 40’s who thought that all scientific information should be shared universally for the good of mankind.

and NONE of them were on his list..

Just how many did McCarthy catch? Darn few. Of the 10,000 government employees who were exposed as Communists, security risks, or of questionable loyalty and lost their jobs, at the least, only forty can be attributed to McCarthy.

think of that… ALL the reputation of mccarthy is for catching 40 spies.. out of mroe than 10,000…

does that sound like a wild goose chase?

Any of the major players? None, as most had either been moved laterally by Truman or snared by the FBI.

There was only one problem in all of this for Lattimore: Hoover had given Lattimore’s FBI file to McCarthy and McCarthy had Louis Budenz as a witness, a former Communist, who’d worked with Lattimore. McCarthy carried the day but was forever stuck with the sobriquet “McCarthyism”.

given that Mccarthy had his file, and all the information…

it was not what you said it was.

it was NEVER what you said it was..

it was only that if you absorbed the information and never knew the whole real story.

like most

http://www.openmarket.org/2009/11/10/unemployment-skyrockets-us-now-beating-european-unemployment-rates/

Non-stimulous countries did better than big spending countries. Imagine that.

Walpin.

http://www.sacbee.com/breaking/story/2317047.html

From Wikipedia (I know, I know):

On Sunday, October 11, 2009, she appeared on CNN’s Reliable Sources and was asked to clarify a statement she made to Time Magazine regarding Fox News, “it’s opinion journalism masquerading as news.”[7] She responded by saying, “if you were a Fox News viewer in the fall election, what you would have seen would have been that the biggest stories and biggest threats facing America were a guy named Bill Ayers and something called ACORN. The reality of it is that Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party.”[8]