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		By: Mission Viejo water removal		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/09/10/listening-with-a-critical-ear/#comment-213972</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mission Viejo water removal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 02:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hello there, perhaps this post is really a bit off topic but the point is, I have been searching your web site and it looks truly tasteful..I&#039;m preparing a new blog and i will be hard-pressed to make the idea appear great, and supply high class content. I have learned plenty here and I anticipate more updates and could be returning.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello there, perhaps this post is really a bit off topic but the point is, I have been searching your web site and it looks truly tasteful..I&#8217;m preparing a new blog and i will be hard-pressed to make the idea appear great, and supply high class content. I have learned plenty here and I anticipate more updates and could be returning.</p>
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		By: CV		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/09/10/listening-with-a-critical-ear/#comment-124908</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Charles Krauthammer calls it &quot;Obamacare 2.0...the ultimate bait and switch,&quot; with rationing the inevitable and eventual end-result:

&quot;...Obamacare 2.0 -- promulgating draconian health-insurance regulation that prohibits (a) denying coverage for preexisting conditions, (b) dropping coverage if the client gets sick and (c) capping insurance company reimbursement. What&#039;s not to like? If you have insurance, you&#039;ll never lose it. Nor will your children ever be denied coverage for preexisting conditions. The regulated insurance companies will get two things in return.

&quot;Government will impose an individual mandate that will force the purchase of health insurance on the millions of healthy young people who today forgo it. And government will subsidize all the others who are too poor to buy health insurance. The result? Two enormous new revenue streams created by government for the insurance companies. 

&quot;And here&#039;s what makes it so politically seductive: The end result is the liberal dream of universal and guaranteed coverage -- but without overt nationalization. It is all done through private insurance companies. Ostensibly private. They will, in reality, have been turned into government utilities. No longer able to control whom they can enroll, whom they can drop and how much they can limit their own liability, they will live off government largess -- subsidized premiums from the poor; forced premiums from the young and healthy. 

&quot;It&#039;s the perfect finesse -- government health care by proxy. And because it&#039;s proxy, and because it will guarantee access to (supposedly) private health insurance -- something that enjoys considerable Republican support -- it will pass with wide bipartisan backing and give Obama a resounding political victory. 

&quot;Isn&#039;t there a catch? Of course there is. This scheme is the ultimate bait-and-switch. The pleasure comes now, the pain later. Government-subsidized universal and virtually unlimited coverage will vastly compound already out-of-control government spending on health care. The financial and budgetary consequences will be catastrophic. 

&quot;However, they will not appear immediately. And when they do, the only solution will be rationing. That&#039;s when the liberals will give the FCCCER regulatory power and give you end-of-life counseling. 

&quot;But by then, resistance will be feeble. Why? Because at that point the only remaining option will be to give up the benefits we will have become accustomed to. Once granted, guaranteed universal health care is not relinquished. Look at Canada. Look at Britain. They got hooked; now they ration. So will we....&quot; 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/27/AR2009082703262.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Krauthammer calls it &#8220;Obamacare 2.0&#8230;the ultimate bait and switch,&#8221; with rationing the inevitable and eventual end-result:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Obamacare 2.0 &#8212; promulgating draconian health-insurance regulation that prohibits (a) denying coverage for preexisting conditions, (b) dropping coverage if the client gets sick and (c) capping insurance company reimbursement. What&#8217;s not to like? If you have insurance, you&#8217;ll never lose it. Nor will your children ever be denied coverage for preexisting conditions. The regulated insurance companies will get two things in return.</p>
<p>&#8220;Government will impose an individual mandate that will force the purchase of health insurance on the millions of healthy young people who today forgo it. And government will subsidize all the others who are too poor to buy health insurance. The result? Two enormous new revenue streams created by government for the insurance companies. </p>
<p>&#8220;And here&#8217;s what makes it so politically seductive: The end result is the liberal dream of universal and guaranteed coverage &#8212; but without overt nationalization. It is all done through private insurance companies. Ostensibly private. They will, in reality, have been turned into government utilities. No longer able to control whom they can enroll, whom they can drop and how much they can limit their own liability, they will live off government largess &#8212; subsidized premiums from the poor; forced premiums from the young and healthy. </p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s the perfect finesse &#8212; government health care by proxy. And because it&#8217;s proxy, and because it will guarantee access to (supposedly) private health insurance &#8212; something that enjoys considerable Republican support &#8212; it will pass with wide bipartisan backing and give Obama a resounding political victory. </p>
<p>&#8220;Isn&#8217;t there a catch? Of course there is. This scheme is the ultimate bait-and-switch. The pleasure comes now, the pain later. Government-subsidized universal and virtually unlimited coverage will vastly compound already out-of-control government spending on health care. The financial and budgetary consequences will be catastrophic. </p>
<p>&#8220;However, they will not appear immediately. And when they do, the only solution will be rationing. That&#8217;s when the liberals will give the FCCCER regulatory power and give you end-of-life counseling. </p>
<p>&#8220;But by then, resistance will be feeble. Why? Because at that point the only remaining option will be to give up the benefits we will have become accustomed to. Once granted, guaranteed universal health care is not relinquished. Look at Canada. Look at Britain. They got hooked; now they ration. So will we&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/27/AR2009082703262.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/27/AR2009082703262.html</a></p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/09/10/listening-with-a-critical-ear/#comment-124778</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama is a shyster salesman. Its almost like half of America has no clue what that even means. As if they&#039;ve never experienced such patronising and insulting tactics before. I don&#039;t understand nievity and gullibility on such a level in adult people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is a shyster salesman. Its almost like half of America has no clue what that even means. As if they&#8217;ve never experienced such patronising and insulting tactics before. I don&#8217;t understand nievity and gullibility on such a level in adult people.</p>
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		By: waltj		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...Don’t these yahoos ever figure out that the more they say the less believable they become.&quot;

No.  

My experience with people like President Zero has been that they never seem to grasp that some of us just don&#039;t want what they&#039;re selling, no matter how many times they explain it.  We understand it perfectly, which is why we don&#039;t want it in the first place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;Don’t these yahoos ever figure out that the more they say the less believable they become.&#8221;</p>
<p>No.  </p>
<p>My experience with people like President Zero has been that they never seem to grasp that some of us just don&#8217;t want what they&#8217;re selling, no matter how many times they explain it.  We understand it perfectly, which is why we don&#8217;t want it in the first place.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/09/10/listening-with-a-critical-ear/#comment-124756</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;huxley: not all of Nixon’s practices were sophistical.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;

md: I didn&#039;t say they were. 

My implication, perhaps better made more explicit, was that while Nixon lied outright about Watergate, and one might disagree with him about his policies, he did not generally resort to sophistry as often and as nakedly as Obama.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>huxley: not all of Nixon’s practices were sophistical.</i><i></p>
<p>md: I didn&#8217;t say they were. </p>
<p>My implication, perhaps better made more explicit, was that while Nixon lied outright about Watergate, and one might disagree with him about his policies, he did not generally resort to sophistry as often and as nakedly as Obama.</i></p>
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		By: dane		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/09/10/listening-with-a-critical-ear/#comment-124748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Obama has been in office for about 8 months so in that approximately 240 days he has apparently given over 260 speeches.  I feel about him talking like I feel about the song Margaritaville.  I was okay with the first five-hundred times I heard it (it&#039;s not a bad song) but I have gotten to hate it - and living in a beach area of Florida if you go to any bar or restaurant (who thinks they will up the &quot;beach&quot; ambiance by hiring some idiot who knows four chords and can barely sing) it would be a good bet that the first line out of his mouth when he starts to sing is &quot;Nibblin&#039; on sponge cake&quot;.  It&#039;s the main reason I don&#039;t have a concealed carry permit - if I did the idiot would be nibblin&#039; on the end of my .45.

What I am trying to say is &quot;enough is enough&quot;.  Don&#039;t these yahoos ever figure out that the more they say the less believable they become.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Obama has been in office for about 8 months so in that approximately 240 days he has apparently given over 260 speeches.  I feel about him talking like I feel about the song Margaritaville.  I was okay with the first five-hundred times I heard it (it&#8217;s not a bad song) but I have gotten to hate it &#8211; and living in a beach area of Florida if you go to any bar or restaurant (who thinks they will up the &#8220;beach&#8221; ambiance by hiring some idiot who knows four chords and can barely sing) it would be a good bet that the first line out of his mouth when he starts to sing is &#8220;Nibblin&#8217; on sponge cake&#8221;.  It&#8217;s the main reason I don&#8217;t have a concealed carry permit &#8211; if I did the idiot would be nibblin&#8217; on the end of my .45.</p>
<p>What I am trying to say is &#8220;enough is enough&#8221;.  Don&#8217;t these yahoos ever figure out that the more they say the less believable they become.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/09/10/listening-with-a-critical-ear/#comment-124745</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[we were warned THAT far back... 

and yet we did NOTHING... 

and now we are asking what can we do?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we were warned THAT far back&#8230; </p>
<p>and yet we did NOTHING&#8230; </p>
<p>and now we are asking what can we do?</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[here is how good we listen.. 

Bella V. Dodd (1904—1969) was a member of the Communist Party of America (CPUSA) in the 1930s and 1940s.

On March 11, 1953, The New York Times ran a front page article entitled Bella Dodd Asserts Reds Got Presidential Advisory Posts reporting that she &quot;swore before the Senate Internal Security subcommittee today that Communists had got into many legislative offices of Congress and into a number of groups advising the President of the United States.&quot;[1] The New York Times reported on March 8, 1954 that Bella Dodd &quot;...warned yesterday that the &quot;materialistic philosophy,&quot; which she said was now guiding public education, would eventually demoralize the nation.&quot;[2]

In her book, School of Darkness (1954) she states that that Communist Party&#039;s structure &quot;was in reality a device to control the &#039;common man&#039;&quot;.[3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is how good we listen.. </p>
<p>Bella V. Dodd (1904—1969) was a member of the Communist Party of America (CPUSA) in the 1930s and 1940s.</p>
<p>On March 11, 1953, The New York Times ran a front page article entitled Bella Dodd Asserts Reds Got Presidential Advisory Posts reporting that she &#8220;swore before the Senate Internal Security subcommittee today that Communists had got into many legislative offices of Congress and into a number of groups advising the President of the United States.&#8221;[1] The New York Times reported on March 8, 1954 that Bella Dodd &#8220;&#8230;warned yesterday that the &#8220;materialistic philosophy,&#8221; which she said was now guiding public education, would eventually demoralize the nation.&#8221;[2]</p>
<p>In her book, School of Darkness (1954) she states that that Communist Party&#8217;s structure &#8220;was in reality a device to control the &#8216;common man'&#8221;.[3</p>
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		By: armchair pessimist		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The calculation was that Obama would sweet talk good enough for a bounce in the polls; this in turn would give Congress the courage to pass the bill.  Winner: Obama, the deus ex machina to descend and solve all.  Losers: A hapless and ineffectual Congress and, of course, the separation of powers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The calculation was that Obama would sweet talk good enough for a bounce in the polls; this in turn would give Congress the courage to pass the bill.  Winner: Obama, the deus ex machina to descend and solve all.  Losers: A hapless and ineffectual Congress and, of course, the separation of powers.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/09/10/listening-with-a-critical-ear/#comment-124721</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;The pampered elite understand neither the power of this love of freedom nor how deeply engrained it is in the American psyche&quot;&quot;
T

 I think they understand it in a morally inverse way. To them, the system of everyone being responsible for their own self interest is immoral.

  We&#039;re witnessing a liberal ideology so immersed in its self righteous dogma that the horrific harm it causes to human lives doesn&#039;t even get considered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;The pampered elite understand neither the power of this love of freedom nor how deeply engrained it is in the American psyche&#8221;&#8221;<br />
T</p>
<p> I think they understand it in a morally inverse way. To them, the system of everyone being responsible for their own self interest is immoral.</p>
<p>  We&#8217;re witnessing a liberal ideology so immersed in its self righteous dogma that the horrific harm it causes to human lives doesn&#8217;t even get considered.</p>
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