You can’t pin any primary responsibility for what happened on the Russians, it was the Muslim terrorists who initiated and were responsible for this whole incident; that the Russians, in trying to respond, didn’t do a particularly good job is irrelevent.

Hostage negotiation does not involve giving them anythin but in rescuing hostages. Has been done on numerous occasions.

Finally, be warned: every time I am reminded about the Libyan released in Scotland I shall remind you guys of the numerous IRA terrorists that were NOT extradited to the UK from the USA; of the many hundreds of thousands of pounds collected for those IRA terrorists to murder and maim people; and of President Clinton hosting two mass murderers in the White House – Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness (though, funnily enough the picture of them all grinning on the front lawn is no longer available on the internet).

Back to Beslan: nothing I said exonerates the Islamists but you need to look at the behaviour of the Russian security forces as well. Life is cheap for all as somebody said above.

Yes, it’s a good day. Hit it,
Peggy!

Didn’t ya’ll get the memo?

Anyone who questions Obama being a Christian (or naturalized citizen, for that matter) is clearly supposed to be standing underneath a tinfoil hat somewhere, and wearing a straitjacket!

Or at least, so I’ve been told several times by folks professing to know better than me…..

http://www.pjtv.com/video/Afterburner_with_Bill_Whittle/____Bill_Maher%2C_Barack_Obama_and_the_Truth_About_American_Exceptionalism/2378/

Inspiring!

I might also point out that the Muslim doctrines of Takiyya (dissimulation i.e. lying) and Kitman (mental reservation) originated out of the warfare between the majority Sunni and minority Shi’ite sect in Islam as a religiously sanctified way for Shi’ite Muslims to say they weren’t Shi’ites if they were questioned by their enemies the Sunnis. Later, this practice spread to encompass the religiously sanctioned policy for all Muslims–Sunni and Shi’ite–of allowing, even making lying to unbelievers a duty, if it will safeguard or advance the cause of an individual Muslim or of Islam. Thus, from the Muslim point of view, it would be perfectly all right for Obama the Muslim to lie his head off and pretend to be a Christian. To quote Ibn Kathir on Takiyya, “We smile in the face of some people, though our hearts curse them”

At his Ramadan dinner of yesterday, that included a large whose who of Muslims in the U.S. and the Muslim diplomatic corps, including the representative of the PLO, Obama praised the first two Muslim members of Congress Keith Ellison (D-Trojan horse) and Andre Carson (D-Trojan horse). Ellison, you may remember, insisted on swearing his oath of office on the Qur’an, and the media played up the fact that he finessed objections to this by swearing his oath on Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Qur’an on loan from the Library of Congress–as if that made every thing all right. This is a case study in Takiyya and Kitman for, while Ellison swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, he did so on the Qur’an which says that there should be no other God but Allah and no other government but Islam and Shari’a law, and from which springs the idea that all other governments are illegitimate and, indeed, blasphemous and must be destroyed, as must freedom and individual choice, to be replaced by obedience to Allah and Shari’a.

In a delicious twist in which I am sure Ellison and all Muslims reveled and which was not, of course, reported by the MSM at the time of Ellison’s use of Jefferson’s Qur’an, Jefferson–as, first, Minister to France and, then, President during the time in the late 1780s through the early 1800s, when the Muslim Barbary Pirates were attacking and seizing U.S. commercial ships that the newly formed U.S. absolutely needed to survive as a nation, and the newly formed U.S. Congress was paying up to $80,000 dollars in gold per year–20% of the entire U.S. budget over a 10 year period–as Jizya i.e. protection money to the Muslim Barbary Pirates so that they would not attack and board our ships, seize the cargoes and sell all the crew and passengers into slavery, Jefferson had this to say about the reason why:

“Jefferson and John Adams when they went to call on Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress” (http://www.slate.com/id/2157314/):

“The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”

Today, Communism has put on a ‘friendlier’ more ‘human’ face, by a theatrical display of democratism. China for instance, has moved toward an open market economy that is strongly overseen by the CPC (Communist Party of China). This approach was initiated in the post Chairman Mao era and its success is indisputable .

The innate industriousness, creativity and competence of China’s population was unshackled and the West, hoping and trusting in China’s ‘progressive’, measured approach towards ultimate democracy, invested heavily and imparted its precious technological knowledge liberally, thus making that country into the industrial powerhouse it is today. America’s reflexive economic optimism blinds her to the truth about the unbending ideological resolve behind ‘communism with a smile’. And so, today, the tables are turned and the Western powers are financially and industrially dependent on China and facing a very serious and dangerous situation indeed.

The above situation could never have evolved without a masterful and concurrent KGB (Secret Service of the USSR) deception. The West was duped into believing that Stalinist Marxism had died when the Soviet Union disintegrated and collapsed. This was a cleverly instilled belief.

The West concluded that Russia was steadily evolving, moving along the inevitable path towards full democracy. A dangerous pipe dream, as it turned out. The SPECTER of global communism never did die!

The breakdown of the Soviet Union was a staged event, the brainchild of Yuri Andropov, Chairman of the KGB and Gorbachev, his hand-picked successor. Andropov died in 1984, but his puppeteers’ hands reached far into future events because of his mastery of long term strategic thinking and planning. Out of conviction and necessity, the KGB decided to discard the ossified ideological brutality of the Leninist-Stalinist view of Marxism, imposed for decades by the survivors of deadly intrigues and purges, old ruthless men all.

Andropov chose another, more flexible but no less brutal path towards communist world domination: A formula conceived by Antonio Gramsci (l891-1937), the founder of the Italian Communist Party who died imprisoned by Mussolini. Granmsci believed that the Marxist Revolution could succeed by peaceful means. He proposed a subtle, deceptive and manipulative approach, using infiltration by cooperation-blackmail, bribe dispensing and waging psychological warfare through the media. He believed that the Christian religion had to be secularised and culture and morals thoroughly corrupted in order to destabilize Western society and make it ripe for a peaceful power takeover by the ballot box. And so, the grip of the USSR on Eastern Europe was thrown into the fire, as was the old structure of its ruling party, along with its calcified leadership.

This deceptive operation was spearheaded by a group of dissidents, many of whom were top KGB agents and Western organizations of the ‘Godless Collective’; infiltrated religious groups of all denominations, moral and ethical movements of every stripe, (Moral ReArmament was granted repeated close and secret touch with the dissidents), all these were in the grip of clever KGB operatives. Their efforts were the priceless and indispensable smokescreen for what became in effect a ‘coup d’état’. It was a total success and the subterfuge absolutely believable. The West never realized that it was the looser in this UPSIDE-DOWN revolution, as Western capital flowed into Russia and technical know-how was freely dispensed.

The new Russian industrial giant emerged, as it healed its wounds. But it was led, discreetly at the beginning but openly in the present, by the iron-fisted KGB which fills 80% of all government positions with former or active KGB officers. Prime Minister Putin, himself a retired KGB man, is regaining the influence lost by the USSR, by attacking Georgia and by turning off the spigots of the Russian gas pipelines repeatedly. The discomfort in Europe is powerfully felt. In the Western hemisphere, the Gramsci brand of communism, covertly propelled by the KGB and Cuba, has won election after election. In nearly all the countries of South and Central America a form of Marxist socialism has been embraced. President Lula of Brazil, co-founder of the Foro de Sao Paolo, an organization that groups all the Marxist-socialist countries of the world, is its leader.

A global dictatorship is undoubtedly developing before our eyes and the USA is the last man standing in its way. With President Obama in the White House and the financial crisis raging unabated, it is a very wobbly stand indeed!