Comments on: The return of the lost: Jaycee Lee Dugard https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/ A blog about political change, among other things Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:26:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: grackle https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-123133 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:26:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-123133 I looked over the pdf entitled, “Myths and Facts About Sex Offenders.” It is interesting and informing about some subjects but in regards to the discussion here it seems to have limited value.

The document admits that many(just how many is impossible to know for certain) sex offenses go unreported. It also informs us that …

The low rate of reporting leads to the conclusion that the approximate 265,000 convicted sex offenders under the authority of corrections agencies in the United States … represent less than 10% of all sex offenders living in communities nationwide … Only a fraction of those who commit sexual assault
are apprehended and convicted for their crimes.

So only a “fraction” of sex offenses are reported and only a “fraction” of THOSE are ever convicted. Furthermore, the subject of the pdf is sex offenders in general. This would include adult-on-adult and minor-on-minor offenses.

The discussion here is more about pedophilia, adult-on-child crime, and of those more about the more horrendous examples. To sum up: Interesting but not very valuable to the post and comment.

]]> By: ABC https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-123109 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:58:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-123109 For those who have given opinions about recidivism etc. regarding sex offenders, here is some research on the topic.
http://ccoso.org/library%20articles/mythsfacts.pdf California Coalition on Sexual Offending: Myths and facts. Good short introduction.
http://ccoso.org/library_articles.php#Recidivism
California Coalition on Sexual Offending. Extensive library on recidivism and other topics related to sex offenders

]]> By: grackle https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-123091 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:06:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-123091 Agreed. Pedophiles are common. Unfortunately. Pedophiles who abduct and brainwash 11 year-old girls to live in backyard compounds for 18 years are not.

Probably not common, yes. But probably more common that the inadequate statistics indicate. I would bet, if there were any way to confirm it one way or another, that most instances of pedophilia never reach the statistics.

Elizabeth Smart was somewhat lucky. She could be dead or still in the clutches of the creatures that abducted her. Jaycee was not as lucky. More probably have no luck at all. We must remember also that many pedophiles prefer to kill their abducted victims. The dead can’t testify in court, can’t point them out to the police, can’t personally tug the heartstrings of a jury. And murder sometimes seems to be part of the thrill, part of satisfying the monstrous appetite.

My policy would be ONE strike and you are out. Lock them up and never let them out.

I don’t favor of money being spent to house these monsters.

After diligent due process has ran it’s course execution is almost a necessity.

Yes, my thought too. It’s a lifelong compulsion and that fact is used by some to excuse them. They can’t HELP themselves, poor dears. For me it only demonstrates society’s right, nay, DUTY, to rid itself of these fiends. Vampires DO exist, they prey on innocence itself, suck out from their victims any chance for a normal life and frequently murder their prey.

A fair system with many safeguards should be employed. Perhaps a panel of psychologists and psychiatrists? However, it should be swifter than death sentences are now dealt out. And there ARE gray areas. There are many variations of sex between adults and the underage — I don’t believe all of them should qualify for a death sentence.

]]> By: Amused Observer https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-123024 Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:24:01 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-123024 Different people have different values and people also differ in their ability to do the hard things that are sometimes called for. There is a very real need for both society and future potential victims to be protected from people whose behavier is so far beyond the pale. After diligent due process has ran it’s course execution is almost a necessity. A hard and harsh view perhaps, but somethings in this world do not have pleasant solutions.

]]> By: SAB https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122950 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:50:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122950 I read a sentimental quote somewhere that I agree with, it goes something like this: “When a woman decides to have a child, she must from that moment on live with the fact that her heart will forever roam outside her own body.”

]]> By: Dennis https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122946 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:12:31 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122946 Why is no one addressing the wife’s part in this? She let this go on for years and did nothing to help this child. For me she is more evil than her husband because she had it within her power to put an end to it.
Am I missing something here?

]]> By: dane https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122940 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:26:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122940 One other thing. In reading what Garrido said in an interview about “turning his life around and that everyone will be totally surprised to learn the real truth” I was totally reminded of Charles Manson in his interviews before his trial. The tone is eerily the same.

]]> By: dane https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122939 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 16:18:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122939 Looking back at the time this happened there wasn’t near the level of technology we have available today. Still this does not excuse the police for screwing this up so badly. Unfortunately in a lot of cases like this the police have a tendency to focus on family members first to the exclusion of anyone else – while the trail grows cold.

But in this case the description of the car was spot on and it was parked on the property of a know sexual offender who had kidnapped someone before. There is just no excuse for the police not figuring this out. Like the “purloined letter” – the evidence was hidden in plain sight – but unlike the letter it wasn’t done by someone brilliant. I am happy the girl was finally found – saddened by what she went through.

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122934 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:30:34 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122934 The problem with pedophilia is that it is linked into one of the most basic and powerful human drives: sex.

It isn’t solved by punishment or therapy. The most promising approaches, short of life imprisonment or the death penalty, seem to be reducing testosterone, i.e. castration or drugs. Those aren’t 100% either.

]]> By: huxley https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122931 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:11:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/28/the-return-of-the-lost-jaycee-lee-dugard/#comment-122931 grackle: Agreed. Pedophiles are common. Unfortunately.

Pedophiles who abduct and brainwash 11 year-old girls to live in backyard compounds for 18 years are not.

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