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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120617</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Check out this horrifying summary of the contents of the Health Care Bill that somebody has put up on Twitter (http://tinyurl.com/m29z46).  

To make sure the bill contains what this blogger says it contains, you can read the cited pages.  I know legislative language can be pretty daunting, but persevere.

This posting must have hurt, &#039;cause various opponents of people knowing what is in this bill have apparently already dredged around and found and divulged his personal information on Twitter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this horrifying summary of the contents of the Health Care Bill that somebody has put up on Twitter (<a href="http://tinyurl.com/m29z46" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/m29z46</a>).  </p>
<p>To make sure the bill contains what this blogger says it contains, you can read the cited pages.  I know legislative language can be pretty daunting, but persevere.</p>
<p>This posting must have hurt, &#8217;cause various opponents of people knowing what is in this bill have apparently already dredged around and found and divulged his personal information on Twitter.</p>
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		By: Thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120531</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Occam&#039;s Beard Says: 

&quot;Union guys are often pretty sensitive to that sort of thing, even though they may in fact be exempted.&quot;

Yeah... same as Canada. The politicians and wealthy don&#039;t use the crap public system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam&#8217;s Beard Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;Union guys are often pretty sensitive to that sort of thing, even though they may in fact be exempted.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah&#8230; same as Canada. The politicians and wealthy don&#8217;t use the crap public system.</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One day you have a deal with Obama, and the next day you don&#039;t. It is very clear that all of Obama&#039;s statements come with an expiration date.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One day you have a deal with Obama, and the next day you don&#8217;t. It is very clear that all of Obama&#8217;s statements come with an expiration date.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120504</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We might also shoot for the populist angle: &quot;Cadillac care for the bosses, veterinary care (or &quot;euthanasia&quot;) for the workers.&quot;

Union guys are often pretty sensitive to that sort of thing, even though they may in fact be exempted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We might also shoot for the populist angle: &#8220;Cadillac care for the bosses, veterinary care (or &#8220;euthanasia&#8221;) for the workers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Union guys are often pretty sensitive to that sort of thing, even though they may in fact be exempted.</p>
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		By: Thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120485</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Occam&#039;s Beard Says: 

&quot;We need to tax the Reds with this.&quot;

On another level, a chant for the rallies should be to tell the union guys &#039;we will put you on public healthcare with us... next time we win... stop it now&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam&#8217;s Beard Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;We need to tax the Reds with this.&#8221;</p>
<p>On another level, a chant for the rallies should be to tell the union guys &#8216;we will put you on public healthcare with us&#8230; next time we win&#8230; stop it now&#8217;</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120479</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We need to tax the Reds with this. Their Messiah cut a backroom deal with those evil capitalists and their running dog lobbyists. Perhaps we can generate some nice fraticidal red-on-red internecine bloodletting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to tax the Reds with this. Their Messiah cut a backroom deal with those evil capitalists and their running dog lobbyists. Perhaps we can generate some nice fraticidal red-on-red internecine bloodletting.</p>
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		By: Vieux Charles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120473</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vieux Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David L. Says: 
August 8th, 2009 at 12:43 pm

&quot;Once an office holder has established a reputation for untrustworthiness and untruthfulness, for making deals, breaking them, and denying they were ever made in the first place, parties will shy away from entering into discussions with that figure or those representing him.&quot;


Obama&#039;s reputation &quot;for untrustworthiness and untruthfulness, for making deals, breaking them, and denying they were ever made in the first place&quot; began on the national scene sometime around &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2185753/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; February 2008&lt;/a&gt;. Some how this guy remains unscathed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David L. Says:<br />
August 8th, 2009 at 12:43 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;Once an office holder has established a reputation for untrustworthiness and untruthfulness, for making deals, breaking them, and denying they were ever made in the first place, parties will shy away from entering into discussions with that figure or those representing him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s reputation &#8220;for untrustworthiness and untruthfulness, for making deals, breaking them, and denying they were ever made in the first place&#8221; began on the national scene sometime around <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2185753/" rel="nofollow"> February 2008</a>. Some how this guy remains unscathed.</p>
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		By: Vieux Charles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120471</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vieux Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article was actually featured on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/white-house-confirms-deal_n_254408.html?page=52&#038;show_comment_id=28582278#comment_28582278&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; The Huffingont Post &lt;/a&gt; last night. To which I made the following comment:

Vieux Charles
I&#039;d like to take this opportunity to thank the members of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America for their skill, dedication, innovation and determination in creating the pharmacuticals and techniques that have saved and improved millions and millions of lives in the United States and throughout the world.
Posted 10:08 PM on 08/07/2009

I know it&#039;s sad. I need to get a life, but I just love messing with these clowns. The responses I got were pathetic. Personally, I&#039;d recommend everyone here get an account, mess with these guys, then boycott their sponsors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article was actually featured on <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/07/white-house-confirms-deal_n_254408.html?page=52&amp;show_comment_id=28582278#comment_28582278" rel="nofollow"> The Huffingont Post </a> last night. To which I made the following comment:</p>
<p>Vieux Charles<br />
I&#8217;d like to take this opportunity to thank the members of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America for their skill, dedication, innovation and determination in creating the pharmacuticals and techniques that have saved and improved millions and millions of lives in the United States and throughout the world.<br />
Posted 10:08 PM on 08/07/2009</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s sad. I need to get a life, but I just love messing with these clowns. The responses I got were pathetic. Personally, I&#8217;d recommend everyone here get an account, mess with these guys, then boycott their sponsors.</p>
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		By: Thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120470</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David L. Says: 

&quot;Neo: The “Politico” and NYT stories to which you linked were yesterday’s stories. As soon as they came out our “progressives” began to protest, and as of this morning the Obama administration has backed away from the “$80 billion cap” deal with big pharma, in fact to insist that there never was a deal in the first place:&quot;

Too funny. :) I stuck up for the Whitehouse a tiny bit by saying this was a pragmatic move on the Obama admin&#039;s part that might not destroy the pharm industry compared to what the idiot progressives might do... and he backs down to the base / idiot progressives the next day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David L. Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;Neo: The “Politico” and NYT stories to which you linked were yesterday’s stories. As soon as they came out our “progressives” began to protest, and as of this morning the Obama administration has backed away from the “$80 billion cap” deal with big pharma, in fact to insist that there never was a deal in the first place:&#8221;</p>
<p>Too funny. 🙂 I stuck up for the Whitehouse a tiny bit by saying this was a pragmatic move on the Obama admin&#8217;s part that might not destroy the pharm industry compared to what the idiot progressives might do&#8230; and he backs down to the base / idiot progressives the next day.</p>
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		By: Thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/08/08/obama-and-the-drug-lobbyists/#comment-120468</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beverly Says: 

&quot;They’ve all already cut their backroom deals with Emir Hussein. Bastards.

We’re screwed, folks. Like, totally.&quot;

I&#039;m hearing some of them are backing out. They made the deals under duress and now that they see the polls.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beverly Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;They’ve all already cut their backroom deals with Emir Hussein. Bastards.</p>
<p>We’re screwed, folks. Like, totally.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hearing some of them are backing out. They made the deals under duress and now that they see the polls&#8230;..</p>
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