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		By: fivefingers		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/walpingate-and-the-sound-of-crickets/#comment-247444</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fivefingers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 18:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should take part in a contest for one of the best blogs on the web.I will recommend this site!</p>
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		By: common tater		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/walpingate-and-the-sound-of-crickets/#comment-221035</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common tater]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Crickets, alright: from you, about the latest development, in which an appeals court rejected Walpin&#039;s claims.  http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/common/opinions/201101/10-5221-1286007.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crickets, alright: from you, about the latest development, in which an appeals court rejected Walpin&#8217;s claims.  <a href="http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/common/opinions/201101/10-5221-1286007.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://pacer.cadc.uscourts.gov/common/opinions/201101/10-5221-1286007.pdf</a></p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/walpingate-and-the-sound-of-crickets/#comment-119709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assistant Village Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: neo to &quot;me&quot; - precisely.  We are not discussing Walpin as a general case, as few of us know anything except what we can get from standard sources, but the behavior of the WH on this specific incident.  

&lt;i&gt;Whenever,&lt;/i&gt; under any administration, there is an attempt to paint the opposition as a bad guy, rather than prove one&#039;s own actions as correct, suspect smoke and mirrors.  The right wing does it as well (as do the libertarians, communitarians, and Greens) - because it works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: neo to &#8220;me&#8221; &#8211; precisely.  We are not discussing Walpin as a general case, as few of us know anything except what we can get from standard sources, but the behavior of the WH on this specific incident.  </p>
<p><i>Whenever,</i> under any administration, there is an attempt to paint the opposition as a bad guy, rather than prove one&#8217;s own actions as correct, suspect smoke and mirrors.  The right wing does it as well (as do the libertarians, communitarians, and Greens) &#8211; because it works.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/walpingate-and-the-sound-of-crickets/#comment-119684</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This idea of the media &quot;kissing up&quot; to President Bush when he was popular ignores facts and events that I remember well. When CNN and the New York Times had sent reporters to count all the Florida ballots after the post election campaign in 2000, they found that George Bush of Texas had, indeed, won the election. Nevertheless, the media continued to repeat the party line that Bush had somehow stolen the election. They tainted the Bush presidency with an odor of illegitimacy from December 2000 forward. This has had the further effect of blunting complaints about voter fraud and manipulation ever since then. This flagrant dishonesty is poisoning our political discourse, as it was intended to do. However, it has lost the Democrats at least two chronic voters, me and my wife.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idea of the media &#8220;kissing up&#8221; to President Bush when he was popular ignores facts and events that I remember well. When CNN and the New York Times had sent reporters to count all the Florida ballots after the post election campaign in 2000, they found that George Bush of Texas had, indeed, won the election. Nevertheless, the media continued to repeat the party line that Bush had somehow stolen the election. They tainted the Bush presidency with an odor of illegitimacy from December 2000 forward. This has had the further effect of blunting complaints about voter fraud and manipulation ever since then. This flagrant dishonesty is poisoning our political discourse, as it was intended to do. However, it has lost the Democrats at least two chronic voters, me and my wife.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/walpingate-and-the-sound-of-crickets/#comment-119679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[me: I saw that list of documents back when they were released and skimmed some of them.  So far, I agree with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/10/stonewalling-on-walpin-gate/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this assessment&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;i&gt;Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican, first wrote the White House on June 15 asking for &quot;a full and complete explanation of whom the White House consulted in order to evaluate the performance of Mr. Walpin,&quot; among a number of other requests. Sen. Charles E. Grassley, Iowa Republican, wrote the White House on June 17 with similar specific requests, after first raising questions about the firing on June 12. Mr. Issa wrote Corporation for National and Community Service Acting Chief Executive Officer Nicola Goren on June 26 to ask again for the information.

Neither the White House nor Ms. Goren complied with those requests in anything approaching a timely manner. Lawrence G. Brown, the acting U.S. attorney in Sacramento who filed a factually inaccurate ethics complaint about Mr. Walpin, has not responded to Mr. Issa&#039;s letter asking if the White House prompted his ethics complaint.

On the other hand, when The Post filed an official Freedom of Information Act request with the corporation on June 29 at 5:19 p.m., the corporation counsel&#039;s office complied that same evening with a selective spate of documents somewhat favorable to the White House story line -- but still without information responsive to a host of the questions from Mr. Grassley and Mr. Issa.

Then the stonewalling got worse. On June 30, White House counsel Gregory B. Craig warned Mr. Grassley, &quot;These questions implicate core executive branch confidentiality interests.&quot; On July 6, corporation general counsel Frank R. Trinity repeatedly refused to answer congressional investigators&#039; questions about the White House&#039;s communications with his office regarding any review of Mr. Walpin&#039;s performance.

&quot;It&#039;s a White House prerogative,&quot; Mr. Trinity told staff members, according to multiple sources. Asked if he was somehow asserting &quot;executive privilege&quot; -- a privilege not his to claim -- Mr. Trinity repeated his &quot;White House prerogative&quot; line. Told that no such prerogative exists in law, Mr. Trinity still declined to answer. Both he and the White House continue to withhold requested, relevant documents. &lt;/i&gt;

My main concerns are the manner in which Walpin was fired, the varying stories told about the firing by the White House, and the refusal to clarify matters on the part of the White House.  These things have yet to be clarified, and the White House has been singularly uncooperative and non-transparent.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me: I saw that list of documents back when they were released and skimmed some of them.  So far, I agree with <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/10/stonewalling-on-walpin-gate/" rel="nofollow">this assessment</a>:</p>
<p><i>Rep. Darrell Issa, California Republican, first wrote the White House on June 15 asking for &#8220;a full and complete explanation of whom the White House consulted in order to evaluate the performance of Mr. Walpin,&#8221; among a number of other requests. Sen. Charles E. Grassley, Iowa Republican, wrote the White House on June 17 with similar specific requests, after first raising questions about the firing on June 12. Mr. Issa wrote Corporation for National and Community Service Acting Chief Executive Officer Nicola Goren on June 26 to ask again for the information.</p>
<p>Neither the White House nor Ms. Goren complied with those requests in anything approaching a timely manner. Lawrence G. Brown, the acting U.S. attorney in Sacramento who filed a factually inaccurate ethics complaint about Mr. Walpin, has not responded to Mr. Issa&#8217;s letter asking if the White House prompted his ethics complaint.</p>
<p>On the other hand, when The Post filed an official Freedom of Information Act request with the corporation on June 29 at 5:19 p.m., the corporation counsel&#8217;s office complied that same evening with a selective spate of documents somewhat favorable to the White House story line &#8212; but still without information responsive to a host of the questions from Mr. Grassley and Mr. Issa.</p>
<p>Then the stonewalling got worse. On June 30, White House counsel Gregory B. Craig warned Mr. Grassley, &#8220;These questions implicate core executive branch confidentiality interests.&#8221; On July 6, corporation general counsel Frank R. Trinity repeatedly refused to answer congressional investigators&#8217; questions about the White House&#8217;s communications with his office regarding any review of Mr. Walpin&#8217;s performance.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a White House prerogative,&#8221; Mr. Trinity told staff members, according to multiple sources. Asked if he was somehow asserting &#8220;executive privilege&#8221; &#8212; a privilege not his to claim &#8212; Mr. Trinity repeated his &#8220;White House prerogative&#8221; line. Told that no such prerogative exists in law, Mr. Trinity still declined to answer. Both he and the White House continue to withhold requested, relevant documents. </i></p>
<p>My main concerns are the manner in which Walpin was fired, the varying stories told about the firing by the White House, and the refusal to clarify matters on the part of the White House.  These things have yet to be clarified, and the White House has been singularly uncooperative and non-transparent.  </p>
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		By: me		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/walpingate-and-the-sound-of-crickets/#comment-119678</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The full set of Walpin docs is at &lt;a href=&quot;http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/07/gerald_walpin_documents.html#more&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/07/gerald_walpin_documents.html#more&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The full set of Walpin docs is at <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/07/gerald_walpin_documents.html#more" rel="nofollow">http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2009/07/gerald_walpin_documents.html#more</a>.</p>
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		By: me		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/walpingate-and-the-sound-of-crickets/#comment-119677</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe the reason you haven&#039;t heard anything about it lately is twofold: there&#039;s nothing new to tell, and you (and the estimable Byron York) were never paying much attention to begin with.

The Washington Post made &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politicss/documents/brown_integrity_committee.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a boatload of documents&lt;/a&gt; available a month ago, and the picture they paint of Walpin is devastating.  

He lied in a memo to the CNCS board chairman about the General Counsel&#039;s views on a disputed legal question, a falsehood the GC rebutted in writing.

Even more telling is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politicss/documents/brown_integrity_committee.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the letter from the US Attorney&#039;s Office&lt;/a&gt; describing Walpin&#039;s serious and repeated misconduct, which included a) mouthing off in the press about an ongoing investigation, even after the USAO had expressly directed him not to do so, and b) withholding crucial information that cast serious doubt on the allegations in his criminal referral.  (See page 3, where the Acting US Attorney points out that Walpin&#039;s referral claimed that &quot;AmeriCorps members Performed No Tutoring&quot; [for local schools], when in fact Walpin&#039;s office had contrary evidence &lt;b&gt;which it withheld in the criminal referral&lt;/b&gt;.)  Note also that although the US Attorney&#039;s letter is from 2009, the relevant events took place in August and September 2008; for instance, it was the previous US Attorney -- appointed by Bush, not Obama -- who told Walpin on 9/26/08 to stop running his mouth in the media on the ongoing investigation.

Funny how Byron York manages to gloss over all this, eh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the reason you haven&#8217;t heard anything about it lately is twofold: there&#8217;s nothing new to tell, and you (and the estimable Byron York) were never paying much attention to begin with.</p>
<p>The Washington Post made <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politicss/documents/brown_integrity_committee.pdf" rel="nofollow">a boatload of documents</a> available a month ago, and the picture they paint of Walpin is devastating.  </p>
<p>He lied in a memo to the CNCS board chairman about the General Counsel&#8217;s views on a disputed legal question, a falsehood the GC rebutted in writing.</p>
<p>Even more telling is <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politicss/documents/brown_integrity_committee.pdf" rel="nofollow">the letter from the US Attorney&#8217;s Office</a> describing Walpin&#8217;s serious and repeated misconduct, which included a) mouthing off in the press about an ongoing investigation, even after the USAO had expressly directed him not to do so, and b) withholding crucial information that cast serious doubt on the allegations in his criminal referral.  (See page 3, where the Acting US Attorney points out that Walpin&#8217;s referral claimed that &#8220;AmeriCorps members Performed No Tutoring&#8221; [for local schools], when in fact Walpin&#8217;s office had contrary evidence <b>which it withheld in the criminal referral</b>.)  Note also that although the US Attorney&#8217;s letter is from 2009, the relevant events took place in August and September 2008; for instance, it was the previous US Attorney &#8212; appointed by Bush, not Obama &#8212; who told Walpin on 9/26/08 to stop running his mouth in the media on the ongoing investigation.</p>
<p>Funny how Byron York manages to gloss over all this, eh?</p>
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		By: Vieux Charles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/walpingate-and-the-sound-of-crickets/#comment-119675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vieux Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And what else has dropped off the radar screen?
The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/us/politics/30jefferson.html?em&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;William Jefferson Trial&lt;/a&gt;?
How about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/31/obamas-aunt-resurfaces-boston-public-housing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Obama&#039;s Aunt&lt;/a&gt;? In public housing no less.
And my favorite &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/05/07/2009-05-07_edwards_exlover_is_testy.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; the results of John Edwards paternity test&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what else has dropped off the radar screen?<br />
The <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/us/politics/30jefferson.html?em" rel="nofollow">William Jefferson Trial</a>?<br />
How about <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/31/obamas-aunt-resurfaces-boston-public-housing/" rel="nofollow"> Obama&#8217;s Aunt</a>? In public housing no less.<br />
And my favorite <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/05/07/2009-05-07_edwards_exlover_is_testy.html" rel="nofollow"> the results of John Edwards paternity test</a>.</p>
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		By: Holmes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, but what about Sarah Palin&#039;s baby?? Oh, and having a beer in the backyard with a citizen cop villified for political gain? Those things are important too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but what about Sarah Palin&#8217;s baby?? Oh, and having a beer in the backyard with a citizen cop villified for political gain? Those things are important too.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assistant Village Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[an aggregator site keeping up with the inspector general controversy.  I have no idea if it is balanced.

http://ig-gate.blogspot.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an aggregator site keeping up with the inspector general controversy.  I have no idea if it is balanced.</p>
<p><a href="http://ig-gate.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ig-gate.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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