Comments on: Obama and the new template https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/ A blog about political change, among other things Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:04:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: tehag https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-130270 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:04:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-130270 “FDR created the modern US conservative movement… via his pushy policies”

How many more presidents with pushy policies will be needed before conservatives win? Hasn’t happened yet. It’s 70 years of progressive triumphs (with small set backs like Reagan, who ruined their source of inspiration, but left their control of America intact). At this rate conservatives might be able to undo the damage of FDR, LBJ, and OBH by… 2200.

]]> By: amr https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119668 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:39:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119668 I too am coming to the conclusion that President Obama is out to destroy the America of 233 years to replace it with something that we would see has more commonality with Chavez’s rule in Venezuela.

On July 2nd across the country we 912ers and TEA Partiers picketed congressional district offices. There are 661,000 912ers and only 535 members of Congress. CA Senator Boxer has 6 district officers and TX Senator Cornyn has 7 district offices. Representatives have a fewer. So with the high of 7 district offices that comes out to 176 912ers to each office. If a permit to picket will allow 4 people (I was only allowed 1 person in Annapolis, MD) we would only need 24 people for a 6 day picket line.

We are now also protesting the Obama policies with our Corner Club where we place signs and people on each corner of the busiest intersection in town nearest the politicians office. We do this between 5:30 and 7:30 pm when those who work can participate and there is considerable traffic. Being retired I can picket during the day light hours.

Our TEA Parties haven’t stop this juggernaut of spending and now taxing with Cap and Trade and ObamaCare. We need to show we mean business. Come on people, if it was good enough for early union organizing and MLK, why isn’t peaceful picketing and protesting good enough for us today!

]]> By: Thalpy https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119651 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:31:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119651 As has been suggested, this doesn’t make sense unless we see it for what it is. This IS the implementation of all the radical dreams of the 1960s beginning perhaps with the Port Huron Statement. Many of President Obama’s associations have strong connections to that radicalism; some of his associations are the authors of that radicalism. They have had over one generation to further damage our most important institutions and beliefs.

Wolla Dalbo’s assessment is correct. We are terribly damaged and it’s from within. Obama is simply a charismatic mouthpiece for whoever.

]]> By: br549 https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119643 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:52:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119643 JDM, a good way to implement what you are suggesting is to head for all book stores with spray paint and a magic marker.

Go to the Alinsky aisle, spray over ‘radicals” and pencil in “republicans”.

]]> By: This Is Disconcerting « The Reluctant Optimist https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119638 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 12:49:08 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119638 […] Obama and the new template. I have been arguing here that most of us in the U.S. are applying the old, traditional, and fatally wrong template, the calculus of the usual and the expected, of our past history, the calculus that just assumes a President’s good faith, respect for and adherence to Democracy and the Constitution to Obama and his presidency–and, by doing so, can make little sense of his startling and rapid actions—and that to really understand his actions, we need to apply a new template, one that, unfortunately for us, fits much better, the template of Tyranny, of Dictatorship and of Socialism, Fascism or Marxism for, if we do this, Obama’s actions then become all too understandable, and very ominous; a reality calling for a totally different response from us than usual. […]

]]> By: Maggie's Farm https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119632 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 09:59:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119632 A few Sunday links…

The coming boom in tax shelters
What is wrong with AARP?
Southern Baptists take on New England
Does the O represent a new template? neoneo
It is intended to be stimulating
Why no medical tort reform?
What’s up with all the czars? h/t, Doug…

]]> By: grackle https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119594 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:31:01 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119594 What I would do if I were Obama is to withhold the long form just for the sheer pleasure of watching the birthers foam at the mouth. What great fun it must be to see your opponents wasting all that time and energy.

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119577 Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:09:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119577 Darrell: That’s my leading theory, that there’s something embarrassing but not illegal on the long form. Something about a parent’s religion or perhaps whether his parents were actually married or not. Something along those lines, anyway.

]]> By: rickl https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119571 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:58:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119571 Richard Aubrey Says:
August 1st, 2009 at 4:59 pm

Observations:
Blue-state escapees are reputed to go to red states and, brainlessly, vote for the same things that ruined the states from which they came. I expect the same will be true of immigrants.
In addition to institutionalized election fraud, there are still enormous numbers of people in this country who think voting themselves other people’s money is dandy and has no downside.

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!

That’s exactly what many blue state refugees do when they move to red states. That is one way the leftist infection keeps spreading. I see no reason to expect any different from Third World immigrants.

A hundred years ago it was different. We did not have a welfare state, and self-reliant immigrants fled oppression to make a new life for themselves in the wide-open capitalist economy of America. That kind of move was not for the faint of heart.

With our modern welfare state, I think there are many immigrants today who come here in the hope that they can get more free stuff here than they could in the old country.

]]> By: JDM https://thenewneo.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119570 Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:57:40 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/31/obama-and-the-new-template/#comment-119570 I also believe Obama is evil rather than simply misguided. IMHO, the biggest problem with a democracy is that when the people are too stupid and/or too complacent there is really no focal point to attack to disrupt the system. (Aside from the fact that certain actions would be considered treason and not morally defensible. )

Instead, what is needed is what I would call “hacking the system”. Hacking in this sense refers to a broad range of actions by a coordinated group of people to frustrate attempts by the government to seize more control. Some of these actions may be illegal but most are simply dubious or even totally legal. They might include simple things like not using the IRS provided envelope when paying taxes so it isn’t as efficient to process them and/or “flash mobs” who show up en masse unannounced at certain locations to peacefully protest.

It would also social/cultural “hacking” by packaging of “the revolution” to encourage followers as well as things like the spray painting of certain logos and other messages on freeway overpasses and other public locations.

None of this is really new, these are methods mastered by the left long ago.

We need to wake up and do something besides hoping and praying that our votes will be counted. We need actions that are coordinated and fearless without being scandalous or resorting to violence. There needs to be a way to connect and coordinate these kinds of things over the web in a manner that is decentralized enough to prevent disruption but cohesive enough to be effective.

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