Comments on: More brutality in Iran

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:50:04 +0000

and any one paying attention to ALBA?

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:02:13 +0000

I was amazed that it was forgotten again…

with all that is happening in that region, no one thought a good tie in would be that date?

tv news aint worth the paper its printed on. 🙂

By: armchair pessimist

armchair pessimist — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:24:13 +0000

Maybe. And maybe not.

It’s been 20 years since Tiniman (Spelling?) Square and by all accounts the young Chinese are proud of and satisfied with their country and their government. So the clock is not necessarily ticking against the Mullah regime.

I’m not even certain that the sense of liberty is hard-wired into Americans, let alone in people who have never experienced it. Maybe somebody here knows the details of it, but there’s a creepy story coming out of Maine about a Christian Group being slapped with a hefty fine from the state because of its public warnings about domestic Islamic terrorism. 1st Amendment? Whazzat?

By: Oblio

Oblio — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:29:16 +0000

Me, too, Art. It’s still not over.

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:12:25 +0000

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov made clear that Russia was not prepared to sign up to a G8 statement condemning Iran’s handling of the election.

“No one is willing to condemn the election process, because it’s an exercise in democracy,” Lavrov told reporters.

sounds like someone else that was here recently… guess they got their angles from the party

By: Occam's Beard

Occam's Beard — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:00:34 +0000

LOL!

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:40:03 +0000

occam… no fair. i knew you would know 🙂

By: Occam's Beard

Occam's Beard — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:51:16 +0000

Yup.

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:37:40 +0000

june 25th… 1950… ring any bells?

By: LittleRed1

LittleRed1 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:01:14 +0000

Apparently there are also some growing theological challenges to the Khomeni-ist understanding of Islamic revolution, coming from within and without Iran. Shiia Islam has a strong history of non-participation in worldly government because all Earthy governments are illegitimate. Apparently Ayatollah Sistani has been arguing strongly that mullahs need to be spiritual, not political leaders, and more and more Iranians are sending him their zakat, instead of paying it to the mullahs from Qom.
I don’t think that this round of revolution will succeed. However, people have very, very long memories, especially a people with a tradition of honoring martyrdom and sacrifice. And perhaps the US did instigate the current Iranian crisis, by showing that free, peaceful and legitimate elections can be held and the people can choose their own leaders. Remember the purple-finger salute?