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		By: Karl the Krud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl the Krud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s socialism cannot be sustained while the US military is strong, complex, and at the world&#039;s hot-spots. European socialists, and others, have lived off the American taxpayers&#039; support for our military, and once that military is defunded, a process forced by competition for ever scarcer resources with the welfare dependent, non-taxpaying Democrat-voting mob, the world no longer has Uncle Sam to contend with; which makes things much safer for tyrants, tin-pot potentates, and anyone else in our fractious world who desires a big piece of everyone else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s socialism cannot be sustained while the US military is strong, complex, and at the world&#8217;s hot-spots. European socialists, and others, have lived off the American taxpayers&#8217; support for our military, and once that military is defunded, a process forced by competition for ever scarcer resources with the welfare dependent, non-taxpaying Democrat-voting mob, the world no longer has Uncle Sam to contend with; which makes things much safer for tyrants, tin-pot potentates, and anyone else in our fractious world who desires a big piece of everyone else.</p>
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		By: Oblio		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oblio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Soros&#039; particular genius is in his understanding of &lt;i&gt;leverage&lt;/i&gt;, or how to understand when a system becomes so unbalanced that a smallish effort can create a wildly disproportionate result.  He wrote a piece in one of the financial publications (WSJ or Forbes, or perhaps NYT) that was the best analysis I have seen on the inherent structural asymmetries in Credit Default Swaps.  I would not be at all surprised if he traded to take advantage of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soros&#8217; particular genius is in his understanding of <i>leverage</i>, or how to understand when a system becomes so unbalanced that a smallish effort can create a wildly disproportionate result.  He wrote a piece in one of the financial publications (WSJ or Forbes, or perhaps NYT) that was the best analysis I have seen on the inherent structural asymmetries in Credit Default Swaps.  I would not be at all surprised if he traded to take advantage of them.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/06/03/the-disconnect-obamas-polls-and-the-economy/#comment-111573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and our leaders people just leaked nuclear information.]]></description>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/06/03/the-disconnect-obamas-polls-and-the-economy/#comment-111572</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I hadn’t realized that the Ford Foundation was leftist-infested. How did that come about?&lt;/i&gt;

long story made short... the organization was infiltrated as per orders of a certain organization along with womens groups and race groups. the idea was to take over the band leaders position and lead the followers (a la 1941 parade scene). 

there is a famous letter from ford when they manipulated him and his son out of the organization (so this situation is actually not the fords creation). 

&lt;i&gt;Established in 1936 by Henry Ford, who founded Ford Motor Company in 1903, and his son, Edsel Ford. The late Henry Ford II (d. 1987), chairman of Ford Motor Company and a son of Edsel Ford, served on the foundation&#039;s board from 1943 until 1976. Under his tenure, the foundation evolved from a Michigan charity into a worldwide institutional philanthropy. Today, the foundation has no official ties to the Ford family or the Ford Motor Company. &lt;/i&gt;

write up on ford foundation
www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5176

&lt;b&gt;Because Ford&#039;s leading officials pursued an ever-more leftist orientation politically and ideologically, the Foundation naturally began to direct its funding disproportionately toward donees of similar leanings. When Henry Ford II eventually resigned from the Foundation&#039;s Board of Trustees in 1977, he expressed his profound disgust with how the institution and most of its trustees had drifted so radically to the political left over time. Lamenting the Foundation&#039;s rejection of the economic system that had made its very existence possible, Mr. Ford  wrote in his resignation letter: &quot;In effect, the Foundation is a creature of capitalism, a statement that, I&#039;m sure, would be shocking to many professional staff people in the field of philanthropy. It is hard to discern recognition of this fact in anything the Foundation does. It is even more difficult to find an understanding of this in many of the institutions, particularly the universities, that are the beneficiaries of the Foundation&#039;s grant programs.&quot; 
&lt;/b&gt;

city journal article: The Billions of Dollars That Made Things Worse
www.city-journal.org/html/6_4_a1.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I hadn’t realized that the Ford Foundation was leftist-infested. How did that come about?</i></p>
<p>long story made short&#8230; the organization was infiltrated as per orders of a certain organization along with womens groups and race groups. the idea was to take over the band leaders position and lead the followers (a la 1941 parade scene). </p>
<p>there is a famous letter from ford when they manipulated him and his son out of the organization (so this situation is actually not the fords creation). </p>
<p><i>Established in 1936 by Henry Ford, who founded Ford Motor Company in 1903, and his son, Edsel Ford. The late Henry Ford II (d. 1987), chairman of Ford Motor Company and a son of Edsel Ford, served on the foundation&#8217;s board from 1943 until 1976. Under his tenure, the foundation evolved from a Michigan charity into a worldwide institutional philanthropy. Today, the foundation has no official ties to the Ford family or the Ford Motor Company. </i></p>
<p>write up on ford foundation<br />
<a href="http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5176" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderProfile.asp?fndid=5176</a></p>
<p><b>Because Ford&#8217;s leading officials pursued an ever-more leftist orientation politically and ideologically, the Foundation naturally began to direct its funding disproportionately toward donees of similar leanings. When Henry Ford II eventually resigned from the Foundation&#8217;s Board of Trustees in 1977, he expressed his profound disgust with how the institution and most of its trustees had drifted so radically to the political left over time. Lamenting the Foundation&#8217;s rejection of the economic system that had made its very existence possible, Mr. Ford  wrote in his resignation letter: &#8220;In effect, the Foundation is a creature of capitalism, a statement that, I&#8217;m sure, would be shocking to many professional staff people in the field of philanthropy. It is hard to discern recognition of this fact in anything the Foundation does. It is even more difficult to find an understanding of this in many of the institutions, particularly the universities, that are the beneficiaries of the Foundation&#8217;s grant programs.&#8221;<br />
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<p>city journal article: The Billions of Dollars That Made Things Worse<br />
<a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/6_4_a1.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.city-journal.org/html/6_4_a1.html</a></p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/06/03/the-disconnect-obamas-polls-and-the-economy/#comment-111569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Obama has been groomed for this position from the get go. But once again the question is, by whom? And tp what purpose?&lt;/i&gt;

i will give you a hint. who can facilitate a membership in the CFR?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama has been groomed for this position from the get go. But once again the question is, by whom? And tp what purpose?</i></p>
<p>i will give you a hint. who can facilitate a membership in the CFR?</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/06/03/the-disconnect-obamas-polls-and-the-economy/#comment-111568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[occam,
 &lt;i&gt;Is it possible Obama was selected for just this purpose, to be the guy to implement socialism, immunized by his race from criticism until it’s too late, and then to take the fall for its shortcomings, while leaving the socialist policies intact?

Too convoluted and conspiratorial (especially for someone with my handle!), but I can’t shake the impression that his whole career trajectory was …orchestrated. By whom? To what purpose? That’s what I’m trying to figure out.

&lt;/i&gt;

its possible that he was selected for this purpose and groomed.  

and it all hinges on whether he knows or not. that is if he knows, then he doesnt think this is a sacrifice, but that he has all kinds of things behind him to support him and he will pull it off. 

if he doesnt know, then he is just a person all full up with the right education and attitude whose path through the world was made easy in the direction they wanted him to go.   

that is, once prepared as young with the right attitudes, and history. anyone ever thought that the magazine he claims to have seen that doesnt exist could have been a fake put on the table for him to read?   no one could have thought that that plant would have become a story that he would use. such a thing would make all parts line up neatly and he wouldnt have been a liar or made it up. but if you were trying to form a viewpoint in a person, and controlled what they read, and never knew there would be an internet and a way to check things instantly and so thoroughly, some fake papers are easy. 

of course there are other just as valid ways to look at it. 

but what makes it all stink to me like nothing else i have seen is the ambiguity. its the secret curtain that i have brought up more than once. 

if you were a cat and you wanted to sneak up on your prey, you would want to be silent and slow, and so forth. 

when your human and your operating against people in front of them, how do you hide it so you can move in silent and slow?   ambiguity. 

it allows and creates doubt and lack of sureness. this causes lack of action for fear of the consequences if your wrong. even worse, those will be the consequences if you act since you cant prove the end result to show that you acted correctly. you have to ride it out. 

there is only one defense and its why you dont give up opportunity and such and forgoe money and success. mobility. 

he could very well be what you say, there is nothing to show that it isnt that way and a lot of ambiguityand games all around. 

such a person not knowing and getting where he has gotten but without trying will give him a self confidence that would be frightning. if he knew he would have to act, if he didnt, the easy path would reinforce his sense of self. the symptom of that i would say would be how he has gotten this far but does not know real basic facts. that he didnt earn his path and so makes mistakes would be the product of it. did it really matter whether he knew X if not knowing it wouldnt mean anything to his progress? 

ah well.. maybe if things work out well, he is out of office, and there is time. you and i can put a bunch of ideas together and team up with an author i know, who will make a book and farm it out through his agent.  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>occam,<br />
 <i>Is it possible Obama was selected for just this purpose, to be the guy to implement socialism, immunized by his race from criticism until it’s too late, and then to take the fall for its shortcomings, while leaving the socialist policies intact?</p>
<p>Too convoluted and conspiratorial (especially for someone with my handle!), but I can’t shake the impression that his whole career trajectory was …orchestrated. By whom? To what purpose? That’s what I’m trying to figure out.</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>its possible that he was selected for this purpose and groomed.  </p>
<p>and it all hinges on whether he knows or not. that is if he knows, then he doesnt think this is a sacrifice, but that he has all kinds of things behind him to support him and he will pull it off. </p>
<p>if he doesnt know, then he is just a person all full up with the right education and attitude whose path through the world was made easy in the direction they wanted him to go.   </p>
<p>that is, once prepared as young with the right attitudes, and history. anyone ever thought that the magazine he claims to have seen that doesnt exist could have been a fake put on the table for him to read?   no one could have thought that that plant would have become a story that he would use. such a thing would make all parts line up neatly and he wouldnt have been a liar or made it up. but if you were trying to form a viewpoint in a person, and controlled what they read, and never knew there would be an internet and a way to check things instantly and so thoroughly, some fake papers are easy. </p>
<p>of course there are other just as valid ways to look at it. </p>
<p>but what makes it all stink to me like nothing else i have seen is the ambiguity. its the secret curtain that i have brought up more than once. </p>
<p>if you were a cat and you wanted to sneak up on your prey, you would want to be silent and slow, and so forth. </p>
<p>when your human and your operating against people in front of them, how do you hide it so you can move in silent and slow?   ambiguity. </p>
<p>it allows and creates doubt and lack of sureness. this causes lack of action for fear of the consequences if your wrong. even worse, those will be the consequences if you act since you cant prove the end result to show that you acted correctly. you have to ride it out. </p>
<p>there is only one defense and its why you dont give up opportunity and such and forgoe money and success. mobility. </p>
<p>he could very well be what you say, there is nothing to show that it isnt that way and a lot of ambiguityand games all around. </p>
<p>such a person not knowing and getting where he has gotten but without trying will give him a self confidence that would be frightning. if he knew he would have to act, if he didnt, the easy path would reinforce his sense of self. the symptom of that i would say would be how he has gotten this far but does not know real basic facts. that he didnt earn his path and so makes mistakes would be the product of it. did it really matter whether he knew X if not knowing it wouldnt mean anything to his progress? </p>
<p>ah well.. maybe if things work out well, he is out of office, and there is time. you and i can put a bunch of ideas together and team up with an author i know, who will make a book and farm it out through his agent.  🙂</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amused Observer, 
 
i am broad and vertically educated (mostly self)

the word your looking for is vertically educated. the education is specialized. (and they feel that the higher they go the base is widening, but its not). 

as far as smart people being dumb, einstein nearly killed in germany ends up writing a paper in favor of socilaism when he gets here.   

but he was a house slave, not the common man who is a field slave. what was the worst was to think that the reason for the things that happened were a product of a sick mind and not the instructions of an ideology.  (conflagration is the world engels used, holocaust had not yet been invented to insure separation of ideology from action). 

so many famous people were taken in on it and some were very very deep in things before they woke up. you can read some of their works online (if ya did you would be one of the only people who have looked and read when i suggested these). 
search for bella dodd school of darkness for one read.  

the transformation that neo and others go through is a common trip that is seldom shared so they dont realize that there are over 100 years of such stories of discovery and for many extreme pain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amused Observer, </p>
<p>i am broad and vertically educated (mostly self)</p>
<p>the word your looking for is vertically educated. the education is specialized. (and they feel that the higher they go the base is widening, but its not). </p>
<p>as far as smart people being dumb, einstein nearly killed in germany ends up writing a paper in favor of socilaism when he gets here.   </p>
<p>but he was a house slave, not the common man who is a field slave. what was the worst was to think that the reason for the things that happened were a product of a sick mind and not the instructions of an ideology.  (conflagration is the world engels used, holocaust had not yet been invented to insure separation of ideology from action). </p>
<p>so many famous people were taken in on it and some were very very deep in things before they woke up. you can read some of their works online (if ya did you would be one of the only people who have looked and read when i suggested these).<br />
search for bella dodd school of darkness for one read.  </p>
<p>the transformation that neo and others go through is a common trip that is seldom shared so they dont realize that there are over 100 years of such stories of discovery and for many extreme pain.</p>
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		By: Scottie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scottie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Occam&#039;s Beard,

Thanks much! I knew he had something to do with Brit currency but wasn&#039;t sure what it was.

Thailand&#039;s currency, on the other hand, I had no idea of.

But it does go to prove my earlier point - at a certain level it&#039;s no longer about making more money, it&#039;s about power and exercising it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam&#8217;s Beard,</p>
<p>Thanks much! I knew he had something to do with Brit currency but wasn&#8217;t sure what it was.</p>
<p>Thailand&#8217;s currency, on the other hand, I had no idea of.</p>
<p>But it does go to prove my earlier point &#8211; at a certain level it&#8217;s no longer about making more money, it&#8217;s about power and exercising it.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Seems I recall something about him being behind the undermining of British currency? If anyone knows details it may be enlightening to see if he’s pulling/pulled the same trick with the US dollar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That’s exactly what he did. IIRC, the UK was involved in the exchange rate mechanism at what Soros (who was ultimately proven correct) believed was an unsustainable exchange rate. The sterling exchange rate swung violently between $1.96 and $1.06 as Soros shorted sterling, and the Bank of England tried to support it. Eventually the Bank of England ran out of reserves, the UK left the ERM, and Soros covered his short position.

He did the same thing to Thailand, grinding a Third World country under foot, and into greater poverty, to enrich himself. So much for the great humanitarian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seems I recall something about him being behind the undermining of British currency? If anyone knows details it may be enlightening to see if he’s pulling/pulled the same trick with the US dollar.</p></blockquote>
<p>That’s exactly what he did. IIRC, the UK was involved in the exchange rate mechanism at what Soros (who was ultimately proven correct) believed was an unsustainable exchange rate. The sterling exchange rate swung violently between $1.96 and $1.06 as Soros shorted sterling, and the Bank of England tried to support it. Eventually the Bank of England ran out of reserves, the UK left the ERM, and Soros covered his short position.</p>
<p>He did the same thing to Thailand, grinding a Third World country under foot, and into greater poverty, to enrich himself. So much for the great humanitarian.</p>
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		By: Webutante		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Webutante]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agreed Scottie.

But bottom line politically right now imo:

Strong dollar=2 term for BHO
Weak dollar=1 term

My recommendation:  pray for weak dollar and buy SLV,  DBC, UCO, then give some capital gains to conservative candidate for POTUS....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Scottie.</p>
<p>But bottom line politically right now imo:</p>
<p>Strong dollar=2 term for BHO<br />
Weak dollar=1 term</p>
<p>My recommendation:  pray for weak dollar and buy SLV,  DBC, UCO, then give some capital gains to conservative candidate for POTUS&#8230;.</p>
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