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		By: Helen		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/06/01/mr-president-goes-to-new-york/#comment-111265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Helen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[May I point out that it is not Nathan Detroit who takes his moll (the singer Miss Adelaide) to Havana but Sky Masterson who takes Miss Sarah Brown, the Salvation Army gal; not for a week-end, either, but just one afternoon and evening. They are back in time to see the Sally Army HQ being used for the floating crap game. I am shocked, shocked at the lack of classical knowledge on this forum.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I point out that it is not Nathan Detroit who takes his moll (the singer Miss Adelaide) to Havana but Sky Masterson who takes Miss Sarah Brown, the Salvation Army gal; not for a week-end, either, but just one afternoon and evening. They are back in time to see the Sally Army HQ being used for the floating crap game. I am shocked, shocked at the lack of classical knowledge on this forum.</p>
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		By: Tatyana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatyana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scottie: haha. My folks live in Detroit...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottie: haha. My folks live in Detroit&#8230;</p>
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		By: Scottie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scottie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tatyana,

Well, if factories started paying their workers off in goods rather than dollars that would provide at least one captive customer for Government Motors....

At least SOMEBODY would then be receiving government approved and oh so green vehicles.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tatyana,</p>
<p>Well, if factories started paying their workers off in goods rather than dollars that would provide at least one captive customer for Government Motors&#8230;.</p>
<p>At least SOMEBODY would then be receiving government approved and oh so green vehicles&#8230;..</p>
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		By: njcommuter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ironically, if we could get Obama and all his cabinet on these junkets 24/7 we might save the country billions or even trillions of dollars.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically, if we could get Obama and all his cabinet on these junkets 24/7 we might save the country billions or even trillions of dollars.</p>
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		By: Tatyana		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/06/01/mr-president-goes-to-new-york/#comment-111149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatyana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Scottie, that&#039;s what I suspected, too. 
When prices were dropping due to normal market fluctuation, there was no discussion in the media - it was just noted, as if it was a meteorological event, not related to functioning of markets. When the prices go up, though, the media is quick blaming the usual - Hollyburton, war in Iraq, greedy capitalist speculators on Wall street, etc - but never the real culprits, the government financial policy.
I know of a closer example of terrible escalating inflation - ex-SU in the 90&#039;s. Accounts of whole staff of huge factories, offices etc being paid in &lt;i&gt;products&lt;/i&gt; of manufacturing of those factories instead of money (since they were losing value quicker than payroll could process) - how would you like to be paid in tires or bottles of sunflower oil? Of the senior citizens (depending solely on their government pensions, since during their lifetime they didn&#039;t have legal means of investing privately), digging into garbage containers in search of stale crust of bread...
I agree with you - the nearest future does not allow for optimism; every day I feel we are sinking deeper and deeper.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Scottie, that&#8217;s what I suspected, too.<br />
When prices were dropping due to normal market fluctuation, there was no discussion in the media &#8211; it was just noted, as if it was a meteorological event, not related to functioning of markets. When the prices go up, though, the media is quick blaming the usual &#8211; Hollyburton, war in Iraq, greedy capitalist speculators on Wall street, etc &#8211; but never the real culprits, the government financial policy.<br />
I know of a closer example of terrible escalating inflation &#8211; ex-SU in the 90&#8217;s. Accounts of whole staff of huge factories, offices etc being paid in <i>products</i> of manufacturing of those factories instead of money (since they were losing value quicker than payroll could process) &#8211; how would you like to be paid in tires or bottles of sunflower oil? Of the senior citizens (depending solely on their government pensions, since during their lifetime they didn&#8217;t have legal means of investing privately), digging into garbage containers in search of stale crust of bread&#8230;<br />
I agree with you &#8211; the nearest future does not allow for optimism; every day I feel we are sinking deeper and deeper.</p>
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		By: Scottie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scottie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tatyana,

Yes gas prices were recently falling, which was due to lowered demand for oil which in turn was due to a slowing down economy.

The economy is still slow - and getting slower from the looks of it - but the gas prices rise.

The rise in gas prices is due to the rise in oil prices which in turn is due to the dollar not being worth as much.

It takes more dollars now to buy the same amount of oil on the international market.

Remember the old stories about Post WWI German money being so worthless it took a basket to buy one loaf of bread?

Same principle at work.

For why the dollar is not worth as much, consider the government budget we are going into this year. They are printing trillions of dollars in deficit spending.

We are also getting into the vacation season of course, but from all reports it seems a lot of folks are cutting wayyyyyy back on expensive and far flung vacations this year, and I was noticing the rising gas prices at least a month ago - well before the start of the traditional vacation season.

As for non-drivers not noticing an increase directly, I would suggest keeping an eye on the cost of basic goods and services (they&#039;ll increase) as well as the packaging of goods purchased (cereal boxes, for instance get smaller and use thinner cardboard) as companies attempt to maintain existing prices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tatyana,</p>
<p>Yes gas prices were recently falling, which was due to lowered demand for oil which in turn was due to a slowing down economy.</p>
<p>The economy is still slow &#8211; and getting slower from the looks of it &#8211; but the gas prices rise.</p>
<p>The rise in gas prices is due to the rise in oil prices which in turn is due to the dollar not being worth as much.</p>
<p>It takes more dollars now to buy the same amount of oil on the international market.</p>
<p>Remember the old stories about Post WWI German money being so worthless it took a basket to buy one loaf of bread?</p>
<p>Same principle at work.</p>
<p>For why the dollar is not worth as much, consider the government budget we are going into this year. They are printing trillions of dollars in deficit spending.</p>
<p>We are also getting into the vacation season of course, but from all reports it seems a lot of folks are cutting wayyyyyy back on expensive and far flung vacations this year, and I was noticing the rising gas prices at least a month ago &#8211; well before the start of the traditional vacation season.</p>
<p>As for non-drivers not noticing an increase directly, I would suggest keeping an eye on the cost of basic goods and services (they&#8217;ll increase) as well as the packaging of goods purchased (cereal boxes, for instance get smaller and use thinner cardboard) as companies attempt to maintain existing prices.</p>
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		By: Tatyana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tatyana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scottie - about gas prices.
I&#039;m not a driver and usually don&#039;t notice these things, but wasn&#039;t it only recently that the gas prices were actually falling?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottie &#8211; about gas prices.<br />
I&#8217;m not a driver and usually don&#8217;t notice these things, but wasn&#8217;t it only recently that the gas prices were actually falling?</p>
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		By: Scottie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scottie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FredHjr,

Much as I hate to contemplate it (after all, I DO have a wife and 2 young kids to provide for!), this thing IS going to hit the wall sooner and with more force than I imagined.

Already gas prices are not creeping up - they&#039;re flying up - and we haven&#039;t even really hit stride regarding what&#039;s coming down the road in the way of inflation as the effects of higher energy costs ripple out through an already weak economy.

It&#039;s happening sooner than I expected, and therefore I&#039;m concerned the effects will be worse than I expected.

In listening to NPR yesterday, they admitted that the gas prices were rising due to the devalued dollar.

The commentator had to toss in something to the effect &quot;gas prices go up no matter what you do&quot;.

Neither of the air heads had the nerve apparently to explain exactly WHY the dollar is dropping in value.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FredHjr,</p>
<p>Much as I hate to contemplate it (after all, I DO have a wife and 2 young kids to provide for!), this thing IS going to hit the wall sooner and with more force than I imagined.</p>
<p>Already gas prices are not creeping up &#8211; they&#8217;re flying up &#8211; and we haven&#8217;t even really hit stride regarding what&#8217;s coming down the road in the way of inflation as the effects of higher energy costs ripple out through an already weak economy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s happening sooner than I expected, and therefore I&#8217;m concerned the effects will be worse than I expected.</p>
<p>In listening to NPR yesterday, they admitted that the gas prices were rising due to the devalued dollar.</p>
<p>The commentator had to toss in something to the effect &#8220;gas prices go up no matter what you do&#8221;.</p>
<p>Neither of the air heads had the nerve apparently to explain exactly WHY the dollar is dropping in value&#8230;..</p>
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		By: dane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It occurs to me most of the people who I have heard say - oh that&#039;s so nice that he took his wife out are exactly the kind of people who would do exactly the same thing - have no compunction about spending the federal tax bill of about 20 (had to up my estimate after doing the math) hardworking families on a &quot;date night&quot; with his wife.

Oddly enough watching a bit of Greta last night I saw Rick Santorum and I thought he made a couple of good observations on this incident.  He said he thought that Obama being a role model for blacks it was a good thing he did these &quot;date nights&quot; with Michelle and projected good family values - especially when 72 percent of babies born to blacks are born out of wedlock.  But then he also noted it would have been a much better example if they had done something a majority of those people could emulate - such as getting some food and a bottle of wine and having night picnic down by the Potomac.  I think that scenario would have actually played better around the world as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It occurs to me most of the people who I have heard say &#8211; oh that&#8217;s so nice that he took his wife out are exactly the kind of people who would do exactly the same thing &#8211; have no compunction about spending the federal tax bill of about 20 (had to up my estimate after doing the math) hardworking families on a &#8220;date night&#8221; with his wife.</p>
<p>Oddly enough watching a bit of Greta last night I saw Rick Santorum and I thought he made a couple of good observations on this incident.  He said he thought that Obama being a role model for blacks it was a good thing he did these &#8220;date nights&#8221; with Michelle and projected good family values &#8211; especially when 72 percent of babies born to blacks are born out of wedlock.  But then he also noted it would have been a much better example if they had done something a majority of those people could emulate &#8211; such as getting some food and a bottle of wine and having night picnic down by the Potomac.  I think that scenario would have actually played better around the world as well.</p>
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		By: Dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It strikes me as ironic that a President who has been so concerned with symbolism would offer his opponents the chance to criticize his behavior regarding the NY &quot;date.&quot; Then again, BHO is as narcissistic as they come, and after all, he still has the press eating out of the palm of his hand. He seems to have pulled it off and his MSM minions are free to criticize those mean spirited, small minded conservatives who object to such profligate spending of tax payers money. Hell, he got the porkulus &quot;stimulus&quot; package passed; he is now the de facto CEO of GM. Hope and Change, indeed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me as ironic that a President who has been so concerned with symbolism would offer his opponents the chance to criticize his behavior regarding the NY &#8220;date.&#8221; Then again, BHO is as narcissistic as they come, and after all, he still has the press eating out of the palm of his hand. He seems to have pulled it off and his MSM minions are free to criticize those mean spirited, small minded conservatives who object to such profligate spending of tax payers money. Hell, he got the porkulus &#8220;stimulus&#8221; package passed; he is now the de facto CEO of GM. Hope and Change, indeed!</p>
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