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		By: undertaken p		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[undertaken p]]></dc:creator>
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		By: Vieux Charles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vieux Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Anyone who isn’t a liberal by age 20 has no heart. Anyone who isn’t a conservative by age 40 has no brain.&quot; 
- often attributed to Winston Churchill 



George McGovern&#039;s personal growth would indicate that &quot;80&quot; is the new 40.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anyone who isn’t a liberal by age 20 has no heart. Anyone who isn’t a conservative by age 40 has no brain.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; often attributed to Winston Churchill </p>
<p>George McGovern&#8217;s personal growth would indicate that &#8220;80&#8221; is the new 40.</p>
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		By: Stan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[McGovern also made the comment that he had no idea while serving in the Senate how the govt regs impacted business.  It was a real eye-opener for him to get out in the real world and find out how many headaches govt creates.

Former Sen. Tsongas joined some corporate boards after cancer forced him to leave the senate and he made some similar comments. 

We don&#039;t need term limits.  We need politicians who actually live in the real world from time to time.  {not like Rahm and his millions for &quot;investment banking&quot; predicated on his political influence}]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McGovern also made the comment that he had no idea while serving in the Senate how the govt regs impacted business.  It was a real eye-opener for him to get out in the real world and find out how many headaches govt creates.</p>
<p>Former Sen. Tsongas joined some corporate boards after cancer forced him to leave the senate and he made some similar comments. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need term limits.  We need politicians who actually live in the real world from time to time.  {not like Rahm and his millions for &#8220;investment banking&#8221; predicated on his political influence}</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 11:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Theres something about Ford navigating through all this relatively unscathed that doesn&#039;t quite seem to fit. Could the ties to the ultra liberal Ford Foundation have anything to do with this? I&#039;m just sayin.....

 As for McGovern, hes a stark example of just how far left democrats have surged. While the media template is one of accusing conservatism of an evolving radicalness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theres something about Ford navigating through all this relatively unscathed that doesn&#8217;t quite seem to fit. Could the ties to the ultra liberal Ford Foundation have anything to do with this? I&#8217;m just sayin&#8230;..</p>
<p> As for McGovern, hes a stark example of just how far left democrats have surged. While the media template is one of accusing conservatism of an evolving radicalness.</p>
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		By: br549		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[br549]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 08:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Chrysler and GM dealings are theft.

&quot;Detroit&quot; has become a fiscal black hole. Although never a Ford man, it&#039;s the only American car maker whose lot I&#039;ll (at least) walk when it&#039;s time to look for a new vehicle. It will be interesting to see what Obama does to gain control over that company, too.
Back door, no doubt.

This will eventually involve the steel industry, and the numerous other companies that furnish the components to the car makers. Well, it already does, it just hasn&#039;t surfaced on the news yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chrysler and GM dealings are theft.</p>
<p>&#8220;Detroit&#8221; has become a fiscal black hole. Although never a Ford man, it&#8217;s the only American car maker whose lot I&#8217;ll (at least) walk when it&#8217;s time to look for a new vehicle. It will be interesting to see what Obama does to gain control over that company, too.<br />
Back door, no doubt.</p>
<p>This will eventually involve the steel industry, and the numerous other companies that furnish the components to the car makers. Well, it already does, it just hasn&#8217;t surfaced on the news yet.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 06:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;voting&quot; provisions of the EFCA are--or at least should be--offensive to Americans&#039; republican sensibilities, but the arbitration provisions are downright dangerous.  First, arbitration can compel a business owner to agree to something he would never agree to, thereby confiscating his property.  Secondly, if this works like it does in the public employee context (which it will) it will rachet up wages at an appalling and unsustainable rate.  The arbitrators will be in thrall to labor, because they want to get hired for future engagements, and labor will have NO incentive to bargain in good faith--because they can always get a better deal from the arbitrator.  The arbitration provision provides for mandatory arbitration if no agreement is reached in a relatively short period of time, EVEN IF the union did not bargain in good faith.  I predict that if this passes, the vast majority of negotiations will go to arbitration, and employees will get wages and benefits far above what the market will bear.  Bankruptcies and facility closings will inevitably follow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;voting&#8221; provisions of the EFCA are&#8211;or at least should be&#8211;offensive to Americans&#8217; republican sensibilities, but the arbitration provisions are downright dangerous.  First, arbitration can compel a business owner to agree to something he would never agree to, thereby confiscating his property.  Secondly, if this works like it does in the public employee context (which it will) it will rachet up wages at an appalling and unsustainable rate.  The arbitrators will be in thrall to labor, because they want to get hired for future engagements, and labor will have NO incentive to bargain in good faith&#8211;because they can always get a better deal from the arbitrator.  The arbitration provision provides for mandatory arbitration if no agreement is reached in a relatively short period of time, EVEN IF the union did not bargain in good faith.  I predict that if this passes, the vast majority of negotiations will go to arbitration, and employees will get wages and benefits far above what the market will bear.  Bankruptcies and facility closings will inevitably follow.</p>
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		By: Tim P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 00:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[stu,
I hadn&#039;t read about that. 
Contrast that to how Bush the Elder, who was also a bonified hero, was labelled a &#039;wimp&#039; by the MSM.
(By a callow george Will even)
You can read about Bush&#039;s experiences as well as about other topics &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Flyboys-Story-Courage-James-Bradley/dp/0316105848&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I highly recommend it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stu,<br />
I hadn&#8217;t read about that.<br />
Contrast that to how Bush the Elder, who was also a bonified hero, was labelled a &#8216;wimp&#8217; by the MSM.<br />
(By a callow george Will even)<br />
You can read about Bush&#8217;s experiences as well as about other topics <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Flyboys-Story-Courage-James-Bradley/dp/0316105848" rel="nofollow">here</a>. I highly recommend it.</p>
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		By: stu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 00:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the most compelling war stories about McGovern was his returning from a bombing run over a German target which may have been in Eastern Europe, and I believe because of flack damage he had lost virtually all of his fuel, could thus not return to base and managed to land the plane on a landing strip he spotted that was not nearly long enough, but thru his skill was able to save the lives of his entire crew.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most compelling war stories about McGovern was his returning from a bombing run over a German target which may have been in Eastern Europe, and I believe because of flack damage he had lost virtually all of his fuel, could thus not return to base and managed to land the plane on a landing strip he spotted that was not nearly long enough, but thru his skill was able to save the lives of his entire crew.</p>
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		By: Tim P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 23:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I too have to say, though I don&#039;t agree with McGovern&#039;s politics, I respect him for his honesty.

I could regail you with first hand and anecdotal experiences of union thuggery, but I think that &lt;a href=&quot;http://touchngo.com/sp/html/sp-5100.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; ought to suffice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have to say, though I don&#8217;t agree with McGovern&#8217;s politics, I respect him for his honesty.</p>
<p>I could regail you with first hand and anecdotal experiences of union thuggery, but I think that <a href="http://touchngo.com/sp/html/sp-5100.htm" rel="nofollow">this</a> ought to suffice.</p>
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		By: FredHjr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FredHjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 22:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I never hated George McGovern.  Sure, he was mistaken about a lot of things, but the story above lays out the fact that the man can learn from experience and draw the proper conclusion.

I knew back in the 1980&#039;s that the radicals were taking over the Democratic Party.  I knew a few people who were lower-level operatives in that party who were, secretly, Marxists.  However, quite deliberately they cultivated a different image for the public to see.  Magnify that by many thousands and you now get the picture.

McGovern was never a Communist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never hated George McGovern.  Sure, he was mistaken about a lot of things, but the story above lays out the fact that the man can learn from experience and draw the proper conclusion.</p>
<p>I knew back in the 1980&#8217;s that the radicals were taking over the Democratic Party.  I knew a few people who were lower-level operatives in that party who were, secretly, Marxists.  However, quite deliberately they cultivated a different image for the public to see.  Magnify that by many thousands and you now get the picture.</p>
<p>McGovern was never a Communist.</p>
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