David’s 43,000 shares of stock in Freddie Mac had dropped in value from $395,000 down to $30,000. If we look back at 1929 and the years of the great depression, many people who lost fortunes in the stock market committed suicide.

I have personally lost my business, my wife divorced me and I have left with nothing more than a suitcase of clothes and started all over again. Not once, but three times.

Each time, years later, after the ex-wife had spent all the money, they have wanted to come back, but I have continued forward on my own.

I could relate to David Kellerman’s suicide if this had been the situation in his life, but it doesn’t appear that he had any problems with his wife.

There has to be something that pushed him over the edge and I believe it was something financial and he must have felt ruined as many who lost money in the stock market during the great depression.

It’s only money. You can always earn more money. You may have to do work at minimum wage, but you can find your way back to the top, one small step at a time.

If David Kellerman asked for security guards at his home, it had to be for a reason. He felt threatened and probably for good cause, we just don’t know all the details yet.

if requested i will hunt down the study (if i can), but the results were that given a situation in which tthere is angst and lots of anxiety in a holding pattern. people woudl select the worst option that was earlier than the later option that was better just to get the emotional situation over with.

this included suicide.

so rather than go to the canned bad lines of the lefts defintions of suicide which really dont match waht you see (women try more, men succeed more, but they are equally competent?)

yeah there is depressive suicide… and all kinds, but what you dont hear much about (because it woudl put men in a sad but positive light and so its not allowed since they are an oppressor group), is that there is also sacrificial suicide, and resoluition sucide.

i believe that he had both of these and none of the other. in one fail swoop, he saves his family and resolves the crisis he cant resolve witout going through it all.

no depression necessary. just a calcluated pragmatic situation.

my dad is kind of doing this now. he can retire, but he wont. he is working night shift as a line worker in a factory even though he is a engineer and artist. he plans to work till he drops to make sure my mom is ok since my family is long lived and we are all gone (i knew my greatgrandparents into my teens, and my last grandparent died in my 40s. my son is 21 and has spend his childhood with his great grandmother almost to adult hood).

so what is he doing? he is committing slow suicide as a sacrifice. what can we do about it? nothing unless someone licenses the tech they just stole from me, or i hit lotto and he knows or belives his wife will be ok. good thing insurance doesnt pay off on suicide, or else it would be a done deal.

yes he is in therapy, but there is really nothing to be said when pragmatism is this big. he is not mental. he is not selfish.

so i believe that he did it to save his family, preserve their money, eradicate the danger to them, remove the thing bringignd such danger to them, and relive the ambiguity of the outcome early.

in those cases this was the result of a rational calculating individual whose life was devoted to sacrifice for his families well being.

a father like mine and me cut from the old cloth.
unlike the ladies, the men really do live everthing for their family and take little for themselves. which is why malls are more than 3/4 women oriented as well as tv and such, even though men supposedly earn more.

like obama is teaching us that the feminists untaught us.

its not who earns the money with their labor who is the powerful one in the relatioships.

its the one who spends your labor that has power.

[so much for family dissolution being normallized and normal sacrifive and great selflessness becomes abnormal]

[do note that sociopathy could easily explain why blagovitch dont care, and this mand did. having no sense of guilt or fealty means that in our sociopathic piss cake new society, this dad was weak]
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on another note… the creepy aspect just went up… one is one thing, but they are starting to drop.

Apparent suicide at US Embassy in Berlin news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090424/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_us_embassy_suicide

and because of the CFO sucide, the original well connected prior person running freddie will be put back in place as a consultant.. (i wuold have been happier with a new person. its less creepy)

another femal in military commited suicide too (its high there for the ladies, they cant cope, but no one will admit that. in fact they will argue against it. but if you take the time to read the reports that are not news.. you will find out things like their breaking down and crying so bad they cant drive the truck and ahve to be replaced. their inability to carry enough reduces effectiveness, and they are bigger targets since injuring them is a means of getting all the men who will fulfill their biological imperiative that women are mroe important than they are (so feminsits are wrong we are not the same by a logn shot).

in fact suicides are at record level. between women who cant take it, adn men who are losing their families as divorces are now high and they cant go home (So the women are cleaning them out. big problem but you dont hear much about it).

and so much more going on too

Yeah, I know just what you mean: I’m sure if I just received an $800,000 bonus, I’d at least be considering seppuku.

…for the appalling shame of my success.

/sarc

Early on Wednesday, Mr. Kellermann went to the basement of his brick home and hanged himself…

I appreicate Neo’s unwillingness to speculate about the causes of Kellerman’s suicide, but I find this passage from the NY Times article persuasive that current pressures from the economic crisis were instrumental in his decision to commit suicide at this time.

One hangs himself and the other wants to do the talk show circuit. This seems like Darwin turned on its head.

My guess is this will be the case for quite some time – even if everything had gone swimmingly, both the left and right adored him, and he ended with 95% approval rating I bet this would have been the case. I never really could grasp why Bush Jr even ran for president – he never seemed to be comfortable with the power, comfortable with the pomp, comfortable with the position as a whole. Bush has even gone so far as to request his staff to stay low key.

I doubted Clinton would ever willingly release the spotlight and was right there too (indeed, he still grabs it with everything he has when the opportunity arises). Clinton loved the spotlight and the power and reveled in it, he never really seemed to like using it, just having it (Hillary, OTOH, seems to love using it).

As of right now I think Obama will too, I rather suspect that no matter how bad he does he will drone on endlessly to the next president how to do it. He is similar to Clinton in that I think he likes the trapping of celebrity and power more than using it, unlike Clinton I think he really doesn’t mind others using that power through him.

To bring this back around to the original post – that would also make pleasing the govt officials *really* hard as they do not even remotely have a coherent agenda you can try and achieve. Whomever has that position will never be successful simply because there is no path that leads to success. Obama’s administration is pushing the path of whoever the politician is who happens to have left his office last.

It’s strange how she dropped out of the race, disappeared for a while and came up as secretary of state instead of VP. I would love to have been a fly on the wall during those discussions.

Lot’s of strange things going on. Haven’t heard a word out of Bush since he hopped on the chopper and headed west. He has, literally, disappeared.