I think not.

Our society is littered with the remains of failed relationships and marriages that were based on things that don’t last. Most of all, based upon the poor judgment of people who don’t know themselves or others.

FredHjr, why is it ‘primitive’ for scent to play a part in mating procedure? We are learning how very important issues of immune response are involved. We are physical beings. It is not primitive for that to matter. Now we learn that overriding such responses leads to more divorce. Clearly we are right to pay attention to such things.

I have seen situations change in ways that makes sense to that. but was i really seeing that? i dont know. the situations were; as long as what state she was in when they met things were good, but when that state changed, things went sour. was it the pill? seemed so with some.

except the pill issue is different than just MHC. it has to do with preferences for who is around the woman when she is pregnant or not. when pregnant she favors similar mhcs or family, when not pregnant, she favors dissimilar ones. given that the pregnant state is temporary it would reflect hanging out with her family more when she was pregnant… there have been other studies though i dont remeber their evolutionary conclusions.

and this article is interesting if only for darwinian angles (not to mention a fair easy take off point to families).

Chimpanzees exchange meat for sex
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7988169.stm

i read it a bit different… i would say that humans, who would visit prostitutes exchange for sex…

in my opinion, which we all know isnt worth diddly on the open market, they are describing offering meat for a relationship and time preference (which then leads to more sex).

even humans today buy gifts, or provide food.. (we still argue who pays first date, and the girls despite liberation want it paid for by the guy)

however. while sex may be what happens at the end, its not sex that is being exchanged (in most cases). its time, opportunity, the ability to be there when things are right. how he smells. how many other suitors there are.

humans are an interesting animal…

the math of beauty is interesting as well. twiggy and marilynn monroe had the same hip to waist ratio. so its not size, its proportion.. but on top of it, its about fertility. so its not men to blame for selecting what they like visually, which gives them mating cues.. just as scent gives the women hers.

[i would love to know if women can also smell testosterone level or some other indicator of winning. when you win, your testosterone goes up, when you lose it goes down (and i dont remember other responses). so besides mhc, does winning count too? i would guess so, as the attraction to the successful may be more than just greed. cause big fish in small ponds get too]

My wife does not perspire much, which is why in very hot weather we have to be very careful with her to make sure she drinks more water. When we’ve gone on trips to Hawai’i on the beach sometimes she will suffer heat exhaustion – because she just does not sweat much at all.

If these preliminary whiffs work out well, underwear and panties could be discreetly swapped(in air-tight packages) for the final sniff.

Then and only then do they meet for coffee at Starbucks. I offer this concept for free to any budding internet entrepreneur.

But I got ‘fixed’ between marriages so the 2nd wife had no need for the pill and thus my odor remained tantalizing to her. Gee, I’ve been wondering why it all worked out the way it did.