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		By: sergey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The quality of a person&#039;s humor is rightly viewed both by general public and mental health proffesionals as the best indicator of sanity and personal integrity. Is it appropriate in tone or fit the situation? Is it magnanimous or bitter? In Obama case, everything indicate latent anger, existential frustration, lack of moral certainty and tone-deafness up to autism. Ominous signs, I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The quality of a person&#8217;s humor is rightly viewed both by general public and mental health proffesionals as the best indicator of sanity and personal integrity. Is it appropriate in tone or fit the situation? Is it magnanimous or bitter? In Obama case, everything indicate latent anger, existential frustration, lack of moral certainty and tone-deafness up to autism. Ominous signs, I think.</p>
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		By: Drew		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105225</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://perfectlyhuman.multiply.com/video/item/8

Watch it and weep!]]></description>
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<p>Watch it and weep!</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105195</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One last thought on the polls -- in the past week Obama resumed campaigning mode with three television appearances. I was wondering whether they would give Obama a bounce in the polls, as they have in the past.

No, nada, nothing -- no bounce.

This is serious. If Obama has lost his mojo with the American public, he&#039;s done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last thought on the polls &#8212; in the past week Obama resumed campaigning mode with three television appearances. I was wondering whether they would give Obama a bounce in the polls, as they have in the past.</p>
<p>No, nada, nothing &#8212; no bounce.</p>
<p>This is serious. If Obama has lost his mojo with the American public, he&#8217;s done.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105194</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As to the teleprompter -- unless I&#039;ve been misled, Obama uses the teleprompter more than previous presidents. I&#039;m not sure how dependent he is upon it. 

He certainly has said some ill-considered things without the teleprompter, and his constant umming and ahhing do not inspire me with confidence in his intelligence and articulateness.

When I analyze what Obama says, my impression is that he is even more accomplished than most politician in speaking at length without saying anything.  See my earlier comment http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/26/obama-artfully-dishonest/#comment-104995]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the teleprompter &#8212; unless I&#8217;ve been misled, Obama uses the teleprompter more than previous presidents. I&#8217;m not sure how dependent he is upon it. </p>
<p>He certainly has said some ill-considered things without the teleprompter, and his constant umming and ahhing do not inspire me with confidence in his intelligence and articulateness.</p>
<p>When I analyze what Obama says, my impression is that he is even more accomplished than most politician in speaking at length without saying anything.  See my earlier comment <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/26/obama-artfully-dishonest/#comment-104995" rel="nofollow ugc">http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/26/obama-artfully-dishonest/#comment-104995</a></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105193</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;What you are saying would mean something if there had been a ‘collapse’ in Obama’s support.&lt;/i&gt;

kamper -- As you know, I didn&#039;t say a collapse in support, I said a collapse in the narrative. It stands to reason that that will start with the people who pay most attention to these matters -- pundits, bloggers, interested observers such as commenters on this blog -- before radiating out into the general world.

As to polls -- Obama is doing less well than Bush was doing at this point in 2001, even though Obama was elected by a larger margin and without the acrimony that surrounded the 2000 election results.

Furthermore, the trend lines in the poll link you provide show a steady erosion of approval as disapproval strengthens. That forecasts, if continued, a collapse in Obama&#039;s support by the end of the summer.

If the economy recovers significantly in that time, Obama will recover, but if not, I think it&#039;s possible Obama will be a lame duck by the end of the year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What you are saying would mean something if there had been a ‘collapse’ in Obama’s support.</i></p>
<p>kamper &#8212; As you know, I didn&#8217;t say a collapse in support, I said a collapse in the narrative. It stands to reason that that will start with the people who pay most attention to these matters &#8212; pundits, bloggers, interested observers such as commenters on this blog &#8212; before radiating out into the general world.</p>
<p>As to polls &#8212; Obama is doing less well than Bush was doing at this point in 2001, even though Obama was elected by a larger margin and without the acrimony that surrounded the 2000 election results.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the trend lines in the poll link you provide show a steady erosion of approval as disapproval strengthens. That forecasts, if continued, a collapse in Obama&#8217;s support by the end of the summer.</p>
<p>If the economy recovers significantly in that time, Obama will recover, but if not, I think it&#8217;s possible Obama will be a lame duck by the end of the year.</p>
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		By: kamper		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105191</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[huxley,

What you are saying would mean something if there had been a &#039;collapse&#039; in Obama&#039;s support. But there hasn&#039;t been.  

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php

The strange thing about the right at the point in time is how strange and desperate the memes are becoming.

One very odd example is the &#039;Obama is addicted to the teleprompter&#039; narrative. All anyone has to do is watch one of his news conferences to observe with their own eyes that the guy can talk intelligently at length on nearly any topic. Whether you agree or not is another issue, but it&#039;s a a little surreal to argue that he can&#039;t talk off-script. It only makes sense from a Rovian standpoint of attacking your enemy where they are strongest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley,</p>
<p>What you are saying would mean something if there had been a &#8216;collapse&#8217; in Obama&#8217;s support. But there hasn&#8217;t been.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php</a></p>
<p>The strange thing about the right at the point in time is how strange and desperate the memes are becoming.</p>
<p>One very odd example is the &#8216;Obama is addicted to the teleprompter&#8217; narrative. All anyone has to do is watch one of his news conferences to observe with their own eyes that the guy can talk intelligently at length on nearly any topic. Whether you agree or not is another issue, but it&#8217;s a a little surreal to argue that he can&#8217;t talk off-script. It only makes sense from a Rovian standpoint of attacking your enemy where they are strongest.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another pundit coming out of the Obama trance: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/opinion/26collins.html?_r=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gail Collins&lt;/a&gt;, who last November was calling for Bush to ignore the Constitution and step down early so the Obama team could start their administration immediately. Now she is openly ridiculing Obama and his administration

&lt;i&gt; Barack Obama – Kinda boring. Did you see the news conference? Same thing over and over again. Not that we mind. In these troubled times, we like stability. Thank God we didn’t elect somebody who was all charisma and exciting speeches.

...

In summary, there appear to be only two constants in our ever-changing world. One is that Barack Obama is going to be on television every day forever. No venue is too strange. Soon, he’ll be on “Dancing With the Stars” (“And now, doing the Health Care, Energy and Education tango ...”) or delivering the weather report. (“Here we see a wave of systemic change, moving across the nation ...”) ...&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another pundit coming out of the Obama trance: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/opinion/26collins.html?_r=2" rel="nofollow">Gail Collins</a>, who last November was calling for Bush to ignore the Constitution and step down early so the Obama team could start their administration immediately. Now she is openly ridiculing Obama and his administration</p>
<p><i> Barack Obama – Kinda boring. Did you see the news conference? Same thing over and over again. Not that we mind. In these troubled times, we like stability. Thank God we didn’t elect somebody who was all charisma and exciting speeches.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>In summary, there appear to be only two constants in our ever-changing world. One is that Barack Obama is going to be on television every day forever. No venue is too strange. Soon, he’ll be on “Dancing With the Stars” (“And now, doing the Health Care, Energy and Education tango &#8230;”) or delivering the weather report. (“Here we see a wave of systemic change, moving across the nation &#8230;”) &#8230;</i></p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kamper -- What neo said and ...

Objectively speaking, Barack Obama is the least experienced and least accomplished person to become president in a century. Maybe ever. That&#039;s notable in itself.

Obama was elected on the basis of his charisma, his speechmaking, and his ability, as he explained in his memoir,  to “serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.&quot;

So the left and the liberals saw Obama as on the left and the liberal plus many people from the center and even the right convinced themselves that Obama was a smart, pragmatic centrist who would govern the nation with a gracious bipartisanship.

We are now witnessing the collapse of that latter narrative, and to those of us who didn&#039;t believe it in the first place, it&#039;s a fascinating story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kamper &#8212; What neo said and &#8230;</p>
<p>Objectively speaking, Barack Obama is the least experienced and least accomplished person to become president in a century. Maybe ever. That&#8217;s notable in itself.</p>
<p>Obama was elected on the basis of his charisma, his speechmaking, and his ability, as he explained in his memoir,  to “serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the left and the liberals saw Obama as on the left and the liberal plus many people from the center and even the right convinced themselves that Obama was a smart, pragmatic centrist who would govern the nation with a gracious bipartisanship.</p>
<p>We are now witnessing the collapse of that latter narrative, and to those of us who didn&#8217;t believe it in the first place, it&#8217;s a fascinating story.</p>
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		By: Hong		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/03/26/is-obama-getting-too-arrogant-even-for-andrew-sullivan/#comment-105130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 01:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really though who cares what that imbecile Sullivan thinks? He has always been a loose screw even when defending our beliefs early in the Bush Presidency. The low hanging &#039;intellectual&#039; fruit are easily discarded. I&#039;ll wait for criticism from more middle brow figures in the media before I can truly believe this empty suit is in permanent decline. I still believe it&#039;ll take a few years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really though who cares what that imbecile Sullivan thinks? He has always been a loose screw even when defending our beliefs early in the Bush Presidency. The low hanging &#8216;intellectual&#8217; fruit are easily discarded. I&#8217;ll wait for criticism from more middle brow figures in the media before I can truly believe this empty suit is in permanent decline. I still believe it&#8217;ll take a few years.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kamper: Not for a moment do I think these people are &quot;turning&quot; on Obama, at least not in any meaningful way.  What I am pointing out is the first chink in the armor, the first slight questioning of someone about whom they showed a remarkable lack of curiosity or doubt before, despite reams of evidence.  Now is just the beginning of a reasonable evaluation of the man by may of his admirers.

In contrast, the opposition to Bush was over-exaggerated rather than under, particularly in the press.  Almost exactly the opposite of the Obama situation.  Plus, many Republicans were very critical of Bush, from start to finish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kamper: Not for a moment do I think these people are &#8220;turning&#8221; on Obama, at least not in any meaningful way.  What I am pointing out is the first chink in the armor, the first slight questioning of someone about whom they showed a remarkable lack of curiosity or doubt before, despite reams of evidence.  Now is just the beginning of a reasonable evaluation of the man by may of his admirers.</p>
<p>In contrast, the opposition to Bush was over-exaggerated rather than under, particularly in the press.  Almost exactly the opposite of the Obama situation.  Plus, many Republicans were very critical of Bush, from start to finish.</p>
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