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		By: Nortius Maximus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102639</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nortius Maximus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see no &quot;Minimus&quot; here. Nonetheless, if the &lt;i&gt;sabot&lt;/i&gt; fits... :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no &#8220;Minimus&#8221; here. Nonetheless, if the <i>sabot</i> fits&#8230; 🙂</p>
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		By: Gaston Auguste Marquis de Gallifet		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102515</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gaston Auguste Marquis de Gallifet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tyrone has a fine point....Another insult Minimus, and 
I shall meet you on the commons. I will remove the tip from my rapier and you will feel my point! 
    Retract your black assertions Sir!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyrone has a fine point&#8230;.Another insult Minimus, and<br />
I shall meet you on the commons. I will remove the tip from my rapier and you will feel my point!<br />
    Retract your black assertions Sir!</p>
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		By: Nortius Maximus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102493</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nortius Maximus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a thing in systems control theory called &quot;bang-bang&quot; control. The inputs to (say) motors are thrown hard in one or the other direction, and the system functioning can be smoother than that, due to inertias and latencies in the system dampening things out.

There are a lot of &quot;bang-bang&quot; speakers in the world. There are a lot of outlets for them. Single-issue voters and &quot;litmus tests&quot; share some similarity.

It&#039;s not always clear (especially in cool media like blogs) what the payoffs and costs are. Bold speech makes an impression and can feel good, even righteous for the utterer. This has been humorously referred to as the &quot;Greater F***wad Theory&quot; (somewhat NSFW(language) origin: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ ). Clay Shirky and other researchers have observed similar things, though less colorfully.

There&#039;s a lot more to say about the usually unmentioned transition from viewpoints such as &quot;This policy will destroy (part of) this country that I love&quot; to expressions of the form &quot;This person/political figure wants to destroy the country...&quot;, but let&#039;s take that as read for now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a thing in systems control theory called &#8220;bang-bang&#8221; control. The inputs to (say) motors are thrown hard in one or the other direction, and the system functioning can be smoother than that, due to inertias and latencies in the system dampening things out.</p>
<p>There are a lot of &#8220;bang-bang&#8221; speakers in the world. There are a lot of outlets for them. Single-issue voters and &#8220;litmus tests&#8221; share some similarity.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not always clear (especially in cool media like blogs) what the payoffs and costs are. Bold speech makes an impression and can feel good, even righteous for the utterer. This has been humorously referred to as the &#8220;Greater F***wad Theory&#8221; (somewhat NSFW(language) origin: <a href="http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/</a> ). Clay Shirky and other researchers have observed similar things, though less colorfully.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot more to say about the usually unmentioned transition from viewpoints such as &#8220;This policy will destroy (part of) this country that I love&#8221; to expressions of the form &#8220;This person/political figure wants to destroy the country&#8230;&#8221;, but let&#8217;s take that as read for now.</p>
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		By: Tyrone Hegel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102447</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyrone Hegel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Try this, put one foot on a red-hot stove, the other one on a block of ice. They average out....right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this, put one foot on a red-hot stove, the other one on a block of ice. They average out&#8230;.right?</p>
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		By: Scottie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102436</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scottie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[greeneyeshade,

Not to get in the conversation between you and NM, but I would note that both left and right have their fringe elements.

Just as it&#039;s not correct to judge the policies of the left by the far left fringe, it&#039;s likewise not correct to judge the right by the far right fringe.

However, having said that I would note that accusations by the left that the far right fringe were taking over during Bush the Younger proved to be totally inaccurate.

While I don&#039;t necessarily agree with what the fringe right may say either, it&#039;s still perfectly reasonable to believe that the direction foreign, economic, and social policies are taking are wrong without likewise believing that it&#039;s all a conspiracy to create a one world government or something like that.

It&#039;s not any sort of derangement syndrome, it&#039;s enlightened self-interest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greeneyeshade,</p>
<p>Not to get in the conversation between you and NM, but I would note that both left and right have their fringe elements.</p>
<p>Just as it&#8217;s not correct to judge the policies of the left by the far left fringe, it&#8217;s likewise not correct to judge the right by the far right fringe.</p>
<p>However, having said that I would note that accusations by the left that the far right fringe were taking over during Bush the Younger proved to be totally inaccurate.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with what the fringe right may say either, it&#8217;s still perfectly reasonable to believe that the direction foreign, economic, and social policies are taking are wrong without likewise believing that it&#8217;s all a conspiracy to create a one world government or something like that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not any sort of derangement syndrome, it&#8217;s enlightened self-interest.</p>
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		By: greeneyeshade		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102424</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greeneyeshade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nortius Maximus, sorry to reply a bit late, but I am at odds with many, perhaps most, of my fellow Democrats on a number of issues. But I look at the comments here and elsewhere about one-world socialists (or Muslims, sometimes both at once) intending to destroy the country and I wonder whom the commenters are talking about. That make things any clearer?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nortius Maximus, sorry to reply a bit late, but I am at odds with many, perhaps most, of my fellow Democrats on a number of issues. But I look at the comments here and elsewhere about one-world socialists (or Muslims, sometimes both at once) intending to destroy the country and I wonder whom the commenters are talking about. That make things any clearer?</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102411</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rickl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; Baklava Says: 
Every policy enacted by this Congress and President are moving this country in the wrong direction.

I don’t ascribe motives to that. Some have said it’s intentional and that Obama wants to destroy this country. THAT IS ODS.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I respectfully disagree.  First of all, it isn&#039;t just Obama.  It is the radical Left which now almost totally controls our educational system and our entertainment industry, and comprises large swaths of Congress.  Young people are being marinated in a Left-dominated culture practically from the cradle.  It&#039;s no surprise that they vote the way they do.  It must seem as natural as breathing to them.

Secondly, try as I might, I can see only two possibilities for the policies of Obama and the Congressional Democrats:

1.  They are unbelievably stupid, and are utterly, utterly ignorant of 20th century history.
2.  They are doing it on purpose, with the intention of ruining the American economy and impoverishing the majority of the American people.  Why?  To gain power over us.

I just don&#039;t see the evidence that they are that stupid.

Furthermore, I&#039;ve believed for many years that in order to establish a world government, which I believe will be socialist in nature, two things first have to happen:

1.  The American economy must be weakened or destroyed.
2.  The American military must be weakened or destroyed.

Step 1 is happening right now.  For a further discussion of Step 2, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/02/26/the-last-valley/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; at Belmont Club.

Obama is a part of this process, but it isn&#039;t all about him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p> Baklava Says:<br />
Every policy enacted by this Congress and President are moving this country in the wrong direction.</p>
<p>I don’t ascribe motives to that. Some have said it’s intentional and that Obama wants to destroy this country. THAT IS ODS.</p></blockquote>
<p>I respectfully disagree.  First of all, it isn&#8217;t just Obama.  It is the radical Left which now almost totally controls our educational system and our entertainment industry, and comprises large swaths of Congress.  Young people are being marinated in a Left-dominated culture practically from the cradle.  It&#8217;s no surprise that they vote the way they do.  It must seem as natural as breathing to them.</p>
<p>Secondly, try as I might, I can see only two possibilities for the policies of Obama and the Congressional Democrats:</p>
<p>1.  They are unbelievably stupid, and are utterly, utterly ignorant of 20th century history.<br />
2.  They are doing it on purpose, with the intention of ruining the American economy and impoverishing the majority of the American people.  Why?  To gain power over us.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see the evidence that they are that stupid.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I&#8217;ve believed for many years that in order to establish a world government, which I believe will be socialist in nature, two things first have to happen:</p>
<p>1.  The American economy must be weakened or destroyed.<br />
2.  The American military must be weakened or destroyed.</p>
<p>Step 1 is happening right now.  For a further discussion of Step 2, see <a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/02/26/the-last-valley/" rel="nofollow">this post</a> at Belmont Club.</p>
<p>Obama is a part of this process, but it isn&#8217;t all about him.</p>
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		By: Lt. Colonel Jeff Cooper		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102400</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lt. Colonel Jeff Cooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of it&#039;s user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny.
In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized.&quot;

&quot;The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.&quot;

Semper Fi]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of it&#8217;s user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny.<br />
In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.&#8221;</p>
<p>Semper Fi</p>
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		By: Amused Cynic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama: Machiavellian, Moronic, or Madoff?		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102384</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amused Cynic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama: Machiavellian, Moronic, or Madoff?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] had a link to an interesting blog post here, which had its own genesis at yet another blog post, so I&#8217;ll just let you follow all the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] had a link to an interesting blog post here, which had its own genesis at yet another blog post, so I&#8217;ll just let you follow all the [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/25/worth-reading/#comment-102369</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Some have said it’s intentional and that Obama wants to destroy this country. THAT IS ODS.&quot;

Not really, it&#039;s clear as a bell that Obama and company are on a clear and rushed trajectory to radically change the direction of America&#039;s policies, foreign and domestic, and in such manner that the consequences will be quite staggering for those who are the victims, especially and immediately with the proposed confiscatory agenda. &quot;Transform&quot; might be a more appropriate term, &quot;Destroy&quot; may become significantly more relevant if the Iranian Shiite 12th Imam (Mahdi) movement become more empowered as Obama and company weaken America by various cuts in defense spending, especially Star Wars and other high tech programs.  Don&#039;t underestimate the long-term damage that incompetent left-wing ideologues can do to a country.  One only need look at Cuba, Russia, Communist China, North Korea, etc.  I&#039;m not engaging in some kind of thoughtless &quot;ODS&quot; by any stretch of the imagination.  People are simply not cognizant of the danger which is lurking with these people running things, and the short and long-term consequences.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Some have said it’s intentional and that Obama wants to destroy this country. THAT IS ODS.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not really, it&#8217;s clear as a bell that Obama and company are on a clear and rushed trajectory to radically change the direction of America&#8217;s policies, foreign and domestic, and in such manner that the consequences will be quite staggering for those who are the victims, especially and immediately with the proposed confiscatory agenda. &#8220;Transform&#8221; might be a more appropriate term, &#8220;Destroy&#8221; may become significantly more relevant if the Iranian Shiite 12th Imam (Mahdi) movement become more empowered as Obama and company weaken America by various cuts in defense spending, especially Star Wars and other high tech programs.  Don&#8217;t underestimate the long-term damage that incompetent left-wing ideologues can do to a country.  One only need look at Cuba, Russia, Communist China, North Korea, etc.  I&#8217;m not engaging in some kind of thoughtless &#8220;ODS&#8221; by any stretch of the imagination.  People are simply not cognizant of the danger which is lurking with these people running things, and the short and long-term consequences.</p>
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