Comments on: The Lancet gives truth the shaft https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/ A blog about political change, among other things Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:21:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: Baklava https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100962 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:21:45 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100962 Why would Robert Shone have any competence to assess the Association for Public Opinion Resarch?

That’s a bit like a commoner examining a neurosurgeon’s competence….

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100941 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:17:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100941 Robert Shone – they are assessing his adherence to ethics. They’re pretty good at that.

]]> By: Robert Shone https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100937 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:26:35 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100937 Why would an Association for Public Opinion Research have any competence to assess an epidemiological study?

That’s a bit like getting an economist to examine your dental x-rays.

]]> By: Steven Stotsky https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100893 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:46:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100893 The Lancet and the British Medical Journal have also both published pieces critical of Israel that read like propaganda and contained inaccurate claims and wild accusations.

If you have a mind for statistics and possess a little common sense you probably knew right away that the Lancet study on Iraqi civilian casualties was way exaggerated.

]]> By: D. B. Light https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100883 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:51:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100883 The fake autism study is not news. Anthony Daniels wrote about it back in 2007. I discussed the whole problem of scientific credibility in this post way back in 2005:

http://lightseekinglight.blogspot.com/2005/12/crisis-of-scientific-authority.html

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100864 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:47:48 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100864 Dan – People move on to advocacy when they get tired of the hard work of actually doing good for others.

]]> By: Dan https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100862 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:32:20 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100862 The Lancet is on the same road that the venerable JAMA is taking: unapologetic left wing propaganda organ. JAMA is edited by Dr. Catherine DeAngelis, a public health physician who uses her bully pulpit to scold and broadcast her agenda. Last year nearly an entire issue was devoted to flogging Merck for fudging data on its lab studies that put its product in a bad light. All well and good, except that nothing new was reported, just a rehash of facts that had been pounded into the public consciousness by trial attorneys and the MSM. JAMA used to be about publishing scientific research, not health care advocacy.

]]> By: What Would We Catholics Ever Do [Dan Collins] https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100858 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:03:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100858 […] Neo-Neo on the Lancet. Posted by Dan Collins @ 9:44 am | Trackback SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: “What Would We Catholics Ever Do [Dan Collins]”, url: “http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=14289” });   […]

]]> By: Brad https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100857 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:59:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100857 “Could it be that the periodical is more interested in circulation and stirring up controversy than promoting proper science?”

More than likely it is the political bent of the editors and reviewers, at least in the case of the Iraq casualty paper. And of course the guy won’t cooperate: he “knows” that he’s right about the war, just as Hansen knows that he is right about global warming. And they both know that they are right about society and economics and social justice, etc.

Also, these sorts of studies are more closely related to social science-type research than they are to bench top or field research. That is, they compile numbers and then crunch them to fit what they know to be the correct answer. Same as those studies that show that women are routinely denied opportunities in academia, even though the opposite is the reality, or the studies that show that the perceived criminality in the black community is due to structural racism, not criminal behavior. Then the MSM highlights the claims and it becomes “common knowledge” for the purpose of debate or discussion, and, ultimately, policy.

]]> By: Baklava https://thenewneo.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100856 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:59:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/09/the-lancet-gives-truth-the-shaft/#comment-100856 It almost seems that the left politicizes EVERYTHING lately.

If data doesn’t match their interest they are interested in changing the data.

1) Census
2) Post August 1981 tax rate reduction data
3) Minnesota ballots
4) Climate data
5) Deaths in Iraq
6) The amount of increases in spending called “cuts” (they’ve done this for decades)

Anything sacred???

Heck, when Bill Cosby talks about out of wedlock births he the messenger is talked bad about.

Dear Liberals,

The hardest thing in life to do is accept what is. Please accept data as is.

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