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		By: Jack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There have been cases of naturally concieved octuplets

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1129628/Doctors-ensure-octuplets-mother-avoided-risky-pregnancy.html

http://www3.telus.net/tyee/multiples/octuplets.html

Apprently there&#039;s been 4 to 5, and the chances of it happening have been estimated at 1 in a trillion. Sounds about right lol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been cases of naturally concieved octuplets</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1129628/Doctors-ensure-octuplets-mother-avoided-risky-pregnancy.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1129628/Doctors-ensure-octuplets-mother-avoided-risky-pregnancy.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www3.telus.net/tyee/multiples/octuplets.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www3.telus.net/tyee/multiples/octuplets.html</a></p>
<p>Apprently there&#8217;s been 4 to 5, and the chances of it happening have been estimated at 1 in a trillion. Sounds about right lol.</p>
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		By: FredHjr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FredHjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We now know that she&#039;s a Palestinian, 33 years old, and a graduate psychology student.  Her parents are bankrupt.  Now, in vitro fertilization is quite expensive, so I submit the 64K question:  Who financed this?  Follow the money and you&#039;ll know the reasons.

My guess is that it has finger prints all over it that point towards the benefactors being from the Hijaz.

Papa Suleman says that they are going to house her at a much bigger house at an undisclosed location.  Can&#039;t belong to him, since he&#039;s insolvent.  Who&#039;s been paying for the prior six kids?  Who is paying the hospital bills and who will be providing home and income for this 33 year old grad student?  No husband.  No boyfriend.

I&#039;m suspicious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now know that she&#8217;s a Palestinian, 33 years old, and a graduate psychology student.  Her parents are bankrupt.  Now, in vitro fertilization is quite expensive, so I submit the 64K question:  Who financed this?  Follow the money and you&#8217;ll know the reasons.</p>
<p>My guess is that it has finger prints all over it that point towards the benefactors being from the Hijaz.</p>
<p>Papa Suleman says that they are going to house her at a much bigger house at an undisclosed location.  Can&#8217;t belong to him, since he&#8217;s insolvent.  Who&#8217;s been paying for the prior six kids?  Who is paying the hospital bills and who will be providing home and income for this 33 year old grad student?  No husband.  No boyfriend.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m suspicious.</p>
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		By: dOLLY		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dOLLY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now that I know the truth - not married and obsessed with children!!! It makes me sick.   I worked for the state for a short while and saw all of these &quot;career welfare&quot; people.   The more kids the more money, more food, more free rent, more free medical - all on our tax dollars.  Many already had 3+ kids with different last names.  Many were unmarried with a live in boyfreind.  But yet they wore enough gold around their neck to buy a lexus for cash.  They almost all had blackberry  phones.  They had perfect veneer teeth.  They had perfectly manicured sculpted nails.  They drove late model vehicles.  I would hear them talking in the lobby about when they were going to plan their next child so that they wouldn&#039;t lose their benefits.    My husband hasn&#039;t worked in going on years because of serious illness and we are fighting for social security benefits - we finally had to ask for attorney assistance.    I am the working person in the family, which I don&#039;t mind, I love working.  But, when I lost my job last year I could get no public assistance in Florida.  Why? Because we have no children.  In Florida only those with children, those with disability, or those 65 or older are eligible for assistance.  Oh, I forgot, I do get less than $5 a day food stamps for myself and my husband- and that is only for three months.  I am being punished because I was unable to have children.  I did not choose to adopt.  I have nieces and nephews I love as my own.     Why is my financial situation any different than someone with children.  Job loss is job loss whether you have children or not.   We all pay federal taxes all of our lives, yet when we need help each state makes their own rules on where the federal funds should go.  Florida offers no help to those without children - and in today&#039;s economy there are many people who do not have children who are in diar straights because of job loss.  In Florida there is no help for them.   This woman is really selfish to bring more children into this world so that the rest of us can pay for her fine lifestyle c/o our taxes and our government.   Not to mention that she is teaching her children that you can sit on your rear and  government is going to always take care of you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I know the truth &#8211; not married and obsessed with children!!! It makes me sick.   I worked for the state for a short while and saw all of these &#8220;career welfare&#8221; people.   The more kids the more money, more food, more free rent, more free medical &#8211; all on our tax dollars.  Many already had 3+ kids with different last names.  Many were unmarried with a live in boyfreind.  But yet they wore enough gold around their neck to buy a lexus for cash.  They almost all had blackberry  phones.  They had perfect veneer teeth.  They had perfectly manicured sculpted nails.  They drove late model vehicles.  I would hear them talking in the lobby about when they were going to plan their next child so that they wouldn&#8217;t lose their benefits.    My husband hasn&#8217;t worked in going on years because of serious illness and we are fighting for social security benefits &#8211; we finally had to ask for attorney assistance.    I am the working person in the family, which I don&#8217;t mind, I love working.  But, when I lost my job last year I could get no public assistance in Florida.  Why? Because we have no children.  In Florida only those with children, those with disability, or those 65 or older are eligible for assistance.  Oh, I forgot, I do get less than $5 a day food stamps for myself and my husband- and that is only for three months.  I am being punished because I was unable to have children.  I did not choose to adopt.  I have nieces and nephews I love as my own.     Why is my financial situation any different than someone with children.  Job loss is job loss whether you have children or not.   We all pay federal taxes all of our lives, yet when we need help each state makes their own rules on where the federal funds should go.  Florida offers no help to those without children &#8211; and in today&#8217;s economy there are many people who do not have children who are in diar straights because of job loss.  In Florida there is no help for them.   This woman is really selfish to bring more children into this world so that the rest of us can pay for her fine lifestyle c/o our taxes and our government.   Not to mention that she is teaching her children that you can sit on your rear and  government is going to always take care of you.</p>
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		By: Oh, bother		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oh, bother]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She had the remaining eight zygotes implanted and the donor knows nothing of it? He&#039;s in for a shock....

I think she sounds seriously disturbed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She had the remaining eight zygotes implanted and the donor knows nothing of it? He&#8217;s in for a shock&#8230;.</p>
<p>I think she sounds seriously disturbed.</p>
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		By: Adagny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adagny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to a newly hired &quot;family spokesman&quot;-
SHE NEVER HAD SEX! Whew....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a newly hired &#8220;family spokesman&#8221;-<br />
SHE NEVER HAD SEX! Whew&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Therese		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Therese]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in California, although it&#039;s a good thing I don&#039;t live in Los Angeles County. This woman is both selfish and psychotic. She doesn&#039;t have a husband and her parents lost their residence as a result of helping their daughter.

I think this woman should be arrested. Her actions are criminal, in my opinion. If she wanted children so badly, she should have adopted (although, I think they would have found she is crazy--who, in their right mind, goes back to the sperm bank in order to have MORE kids?)

I&#039;m all for women having the choice to do what they want with their bodies and I love kids. However, I think this woman was selfish. It will be a miracle if these innocent eight babies survive and if they don&#039;t, who&#039;s to blame? This crazy lady! 

So what&#039;s going to happen? Like someone mentioned she&#039;s going to have a free ride with welfare and the people of Los Angeles County will be footing the bill. She can personally thank her fellow residents for supporting her because it will be their tax money supporting her kids. 

I think this woman has watched too many episodes of that idiotic show, Jon and Kate Plus Eight. I think this woman knew exactly what she was doing and anyone who gets invitro knows the risk of multiple births. Now she&#039;s an insta-celebrity who is supposedly a &quot;professional&quot; student and has no means to support her 14 kids.  She&#039;s beyond irresponsible and I think the kids should be taken away from her and she should be locked up!

Tom, if you were living in California you&#039;d be singing a different tune. It&#039;s not just 8 kids--try another 14 kids mooching off the state of California.

Her parents are claiming she&#039;s been obsessed with wanting a lot of kids. If she wanted kids so much, then she should have adopted. The saddest part is there are so many kids who need good homes (although, it&#039;s probably a GOOD thing she didn&#039;t adopt). 

Now this woman is going to use her kids for celebrity status now and will be begging someone for a reality TV show. Oprah is already knocking on her door which disgusts me. 

I feel very bad for these kids. I am from a large family and there were 6 of us. My mom worked 3 jobs as a single parent just to pay the rent and put food on the table. My mom has a college degree, is an incredibly successful and smart person and she still struggled. There is no way on this earth my mom could have survived with another 8 kids on top of us 6 kids. It was tough enough as it was.

@Occam&#039;s Beard: Re: your comment about gay couples--you&#039;re a homophobic idiot. How dare you put gay couples in the same sentence as pedophiles and perverts? People like YOU disgust me. YOU should be the one banned from adopting kids. I would never want your hateful, homophobic influence on children.  You need to pull your head out of your ignorant Bible-thumping world and join reality. You are exactly the reason why I&#039;m glad Obama is in office. Be gone with you crazy Christian Freaks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in California, although it&#8217;s a good thing I don&#8217;t live in Los Angeles County. This woman is both selfish and psychotic. She doesn&#8217;t have a husband and her parents lost their residence as a result of helping their daughter.</p>
<p>I think this woman should be arrested. Her actions are criminal, in my opinion. If she wanted children so badly, she should have adopted (although, I think they would have found she is crazy&#8211;who, in their right mind, goes back to the sperm bank in order to have MORE kids?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for women having the choice to do what they want with their bodies and I love kids. However, I think this woman was selfish. It will be a miracle if these innocent eight babies survive and if they don&#8217;t, who&#8217;s to blame? This crazy lady! </p>
<p>So what&#8217;s going to happen? Like someone mentioned she&#8217;s going to have a free ride with welfare and the people of Los Angeles County will be footing the bill. She can personally thank her fellow residents for supporting her because it will be their tax money supporting her kids. </p>
<p>I think this woman has watched too many episodes of that idiotic show, Jon and Kate Plus Eight. I think this woman knew exactly what she was doing and anyone who gets invitro knows the risk of multiple births. Now she&#8217;s an insta-celebrity who is supposedly a &#8220;professional&#8221; student and has no means to support her 14 kids.  She&#8217;s beyond irresponsible and I think the kids should be taken away from her and she should be locked up!</p>
<p>Tom, if you were living in California you&#8217;d be singing a different tune. It&#8217;s not just 8 kids&#8211;try another 14 kids mooching off the state of California.</p>
<p>Her parents are claiming she&#8217;s been obsessed with wanting a lot of kids. If she wanted kids so much, then she should have adopted. The saddest part is there are so many kids who need good homes (although, it&#8217;s probably a GOOD thing she didn&#8217;t adopt). </p>
<p>Now this woman is going to use her kids for celebrity status now and will be begging someone for a reality TV show. Oprah is already knocking on her door which disgusts me. </p>
<p>I feel very bad for these kids. I am from a large family and there were 6 of us. My mom worked 3 jobs as a single parent just to pay the rent and put food on the table. My mom has a college degree, is an incredibly successful and smart person and she still struggled. There is no way on this earth my mom could have survived with another 8 kids on top of us 6 kids. It was tough enough as it was.</p>
<p>@Occam&#8217;s Beard: Re: your comment about gay couples&#8211;you&#8217;re a homophobic idiot. How dare you put gay couples in the same sentence as pedophiles and perverts? People like YOU disgust me. YOU should be the one banned from adopting kids. I would never want your hateful, homophobic influence on children.  You need to pull your head out of your ignorant Bible-thumping world and join reality. You are exactly the reason why I&#8217;m glad Obama is in office. Be gone with you crazy Christian Freaks!</p>
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		By: petrie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[petrie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dustoffmom; you are correct; great heavens. what a mess!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustoffmom; you are correct; great heavens. what a mess!</p>
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		By: bailout nation		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bailout nation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Court records show Suleman filed for bankruptcy last March, but after she failed to make required payments and appear at a creditors&#039; meeting, the case was dismissed. She reported liabilities of $981,371, mostly money owed on two houses she owns in Whittier.&quot;

A neighbor who talked to a reporter gave a lot more shocking details:

    &quot;She is single. She used a sperm donor, someone she knew, who donated sperm a long time ago. He donated the sperm for the first six kids and she used his frozen sperm for these ones. I don’t think the sperm donor knows about these eight kids. He was not involved.&quot;


If you look closely at the new House stimulus bill HR1, she just set herself and her kids up for life.. She will live high on government money, the children will eat for free compliments of food stamps, this family will never have to pay a doctor or hospital bill and will have access to the best care in this country, compliments of hard working American taxpayers. The children will benefit from a free-ride to any college of their choice. Section 8 subsidy for rent of 2500-3000 a month for any place she wants to live. Free daycare so she can get out of the house and work part-time and yet keep all the govie assistance money. What is to stop her from having more? Why should she stop when she makes more and more money for each one she pops out.. Just research the HR1.. It&#039;s all there and spelled out clearly. Really... Take some time and read the house stimulus bill. When her friends find out how much money she makes from govie assistance for having babies then how many of them will pop out babies for income? Welcome to the Obama administration.. and to think I voted for Obama and change..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Court records show Suleman filed for bankruptcy last March, but after she failed to make required payments and appear at a creditors&#8217; meeting, the case was dismissed. She reported liabilities of $981,371, mostly money owed on two houses she owns in Whittier.&#8221;</p>
<p>A neighbor who talked to a reporter gave a lot more shocking details:</p>
<p>    &#8220;She is single. She used a sperm donor, someone she knew, who donated sperm a long time ago. He donated the sperm for the first six kids and she used his frozen sperm for these ones. I don’t think the sperm donor knows about these eight kids. He was not involved.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you look closely at the new House stimulus bill HR1, she just set herself and her kids up for life.. She will live high on government money, the children will eat for free compliments of food stamps, this family will never have to pay a doctor or hospital bill and will have access to the best care in this country, compliments of hard working American taxpayers. The children will benefit from a free-ride to any college of their choice. Section 8 subsidy for rent of 2500-3000 a month for any place she wants to live. Free daycare so she can get out of the house and work part-time and yet keep all the govie assistance money. What is to stop her from having more? Why should she stop when she makes more and more money for each one she pops out.. Just research the HR1.. It&#8217;s all there and spelled out clearly. Really&#8230; Take some time and read the house stimulus bill. When her friends find out how much money she makes from govie assistance for having babies then how many of them will pop out babies for income? Welcome to the Obama administration.. and to think I voted for Obama and change..</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This case is about 10 standard deviations from the norm, and I think it ridiculous to respond in any sense. As a very rare event (first of its kind, actually!) we should not invest any attention other than &quot;whew! Glad they&#039;re not mine&quot;). Freak events are poor platforms for policy-making. As to costs, the kids are just 8 more wards of the state, among millions. Sorry, Neo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case is about 10 standard deviations from the norm, and I think it ridiculous to respond in any sense. As a very rare event (first of its kind, actually!) we should not invest any attention other than &#8220;whew! Glad they&#8217;re not mine&#8221;). Freak events are poor platforms for policy-making. As to costs, the kids are just 8 more wards of the state, among millions. Sorry, Neo.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suspect the grandfather has experience at cost benefit analysis and we may see more babies. Probably no coincidence either his trips to Iraq will likely subside sometime after the terrible twos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the grandfather has experience at cost benefit analysis and we may see more babies. Probably no coincidence either his trips to Iraq will likely subside sometime after the terrible twos.</p>
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